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Obscure SNES pirates; some hardly known
Topic Started: Aug 15 2010, 08:13:23 PM (19,265 Views)
Doomkid
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That looks really fun.. I always wanted this version to be on the SNES, since I never owned a Genesis. Does anyone know wether or not it's been dumped?
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Barver
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It's likely not, else we'd know about it I think =p

Sorry Cheetahman, I was just confused by how your post was worded heh.

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I don't impressional~

As a random aside, I find it interesting how rarely SNES pirates ever made their own music.

And also as a random aside, every single SNES pirate that I've ever seen steals either its music or its sound engine from Capcom. Aladdin, obviously, steals the music from Aladdin; the two Pokemon games steal music from Bonkers; and many of the fighting games have music stolen straight out of SF2. But even the ones that do have original music (e.g., Pokemon Stadium and Super Big 2) have a sound engine stolen from Super Pang.

Edited to add: Pirates have been using the Super Pang sound engine for a good while, too. "Gamars Puzzle", one of the first unlicensed things known for SNES (it's a 9-piece picture puzzle from the BIOS of a ROM dumper from 1994!), uses the samples from Super Pang at the very least.
Edited by codeman38, Jul 13 2011, 08:50:25 PM.
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I wonder if they had some kind of development tool in common then? Gamars published Taiwan 16 Mahjong 2 AFAIK (and some undumped Chinese Chess game) which also uses the Super Pang sound engine and seems very much like something developed by one of that whole Taichung set.

so maybe Gamars/Kaiser (also credited in Puzzle, I dunno if they're the same company or they just worked together) made a dev kit, with their presumably decent technical knowledge of the SNES, but didn't have the development talent to make much more than that Puzzle game with it.. then they hired some more experienced developer to make those two games for them, and said dev just kept the tools afterwards? i dunno, i'm totally just speculating here.
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I don't impressional~

If I'm understanding this Chinese forum thread correctly, Kaiser was the original manufacturer (they've been around since the NES days, and have released a fair amount of Famicom bootleg carts); then Gamars, which is a brand of some company called "Zi San", rebranded the unit. Or something like that, anyway.

Edit: This FamicomWorld thread shows an actual picture of the unit. Yep, that is definitely Kaiser's logo on it, in addition to the Gamars logo.

Edit #2: Even more puzzlingly, some versions of the unit have "GAMARS" text directly under the Kaiser logo. So yeah, either they're the same company, or else one bought the other...
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Hercules has its own music I don't recognize from anything. I was gonna send it to Azathoth so he can dump it so maybe everyone can see for themselves soon enough. I don't know the original PSX game so have no idea if it's taken from there or not. Better than the Genesis soundtrack though IMO.
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codeman38
Jul 13 2011, 09:35:08 PM
Edit #2: Even more puzzlingly, some versions of the unit have "GAMARS" text directly under the Kaiser logo. So yeah, either they're the same company, or else one bought the other...
Dunno about that. A few of Sachen's games did the same thing with the Hacker logo, and they were two different companies.
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Drat! I don't own a "Super Game"! Look's like I can't play Punch-out! ;)
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What? a street fighter pirate? on a nintendo sytem? I'm shocked! :lol:
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Here's a shat load of SNES Mulitcart's.
Edited by klax, Jul 17 2011, 08:31:41 AM.
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Jul 17 2011, 08:24:04 AM
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Drat! I don't own a "Super Game"! Look's like I can't play Punch-out! ;)
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What? a street fighter pirate? on a nintendo sytem? I'm shocked! :lol:
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Here's a shat load of SNES Mulitcart's.
Is it me or are none of these pics showing up?
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I don't impressional~

Yeah, please link directly to the images if you're using the Internet Archive. They use a system of redirects that doesn't allow the images to be embedded.
Edited by codeman38, Jul 17 2011, 10:08:07 AM.
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http://web.archive.org/web/20030802164823/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/pirate-multi.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20030802123234/http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/pirate/pirate-single.html
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Am I the only one that finds it weird that most of these pirates are in the American SNES format? There's a lot more Famicom pirates than NES pirates, so I think it'd make more sense for Super Famicom piracy to be a lot more common than SNES piracy.
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Jul 17 2011, 02:50:40 PM
Am I the only one that finds it weird that most of these pirates are in the American SNES format? There's a lot more Famicom pirates than NES pirates, so I think it'd make more sense for Super Famicom piracy to be a lot more common than SNES piracy.
So, your basing your theory off the fact that people did something once, so they must do it again! Genuis!What's that? You've one a noble pri... (Mr.sarcasm pulls up and shoot's klax in the back of the head)
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I guess its down to the popularity of clones more than anything else. Famiclones spread the 60 pin format all over the world, whereas 72 pin games were mostly restricted to countries that saw the official NES (plus Brazil).

but the SNES was rarely ever cloned - its only recently that a few handheld SNES's and multi-system clones have been produced in any great numbers. I guess official US SNESs made inroads into South America but the Euro SNES and Japanese Super Famicom never really took off in the ex USSR and Asia the way Famiclones did there. so most SNES pirates were produced for South America, with the odd SFC format multi or single cart made for Taiwan.
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I see what you mean. I'm guessing that Steepler would've probably distributed the SNES (or a clone of it) in Russia had they not gone out of business in 1996. Out of interest, would a Super Famicom pirate work on a PAL SNES?
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don't JP games work on PAL sytems?
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I think Steepler did distribute the SNES. but it didnt do so well because it was too expensive. Plus Steepler had an official contract with Nintendo for that one so they wouldnt have been selling pirate carts alongside it.

no idea if an SFC pirate would work on a PAL SNES though.. I dunno much about the SNES's lockout system, if its more down to the carts or the console or what.
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Jul 17 2011, 03:20:48 PM
don't JP games work on PAL sytems?
Official ones certainly don't, not without an adapter anyway.
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I found an Adventures of Rookie Cartridge from the SNES central site. It is supposed to be an unlicenced game for the SNES but surprisingly there is no footage of it just this cartridge.
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in this page: http://snesorama.us/board/showthread.php?t=35019

There is a full nongoodsnes rom set wich includes two pirate versions of 101 dalmatians. One Says "101 DALMATAS (Peruvian Hack)", and the other says "101 Dalmatas (Unl)". The only problem is that you have to download the complete romset (1,6 GB aprox) to can have this two versions, if i have some time in my home, i'm going to try to download it, or if another good soul want's to download the romset and upload the two games i have no trouble at all ;) :lol:
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Can't you just download the first part of the romset and do it that way?
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oh yeah, the Adventure of Rookie, that comes up every so often - it's not an unlicensed games, its a pirate of Tatakae Genshijin 2: Rookie no Bouken, aka Congo's Caper.
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Cheetahmen
Jul 23 2011, 03:52:12 PM
Can't you just download the first part of the romset and do it that way?
mmmmm i'm not sure, i think when you try to unzip the first part, it ask you for the part two, but i'm going to try it anyway, thanks
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101 Dalmations is in the link previously posted by Barver that was the complete pack of Twin Eagle games.
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Jul 23 2011, 06:55:05 PM
101 Dalmations is in the link previously posted by Barver that was the complete pack of Twin Eagle games.
Great!, thanks man :D
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Yeah, but as far as I was aware there was never a dump of that game publically. I assume the dump I got(which game directly from TEG) possibly was a ROM not dumped from cart, while the ones in that torrent might be from a cart someone bought. It's worth checking out since the ROM I got doesn't even work in any emulators, maybe those other two do?

If you've already started downloading the torrent I'd keep at it just to see. Sucks they make you download the whole 1.6gigs rather than separate files, but I guess that reduces the amount of people who don't seed. I hate it when they do that though :p
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Well, finally i decided to download that 1,6 GB, and the two roms work fine. Both are the same game (Bethoven hack), if you wanna give it a chance, here you have the download link:

http://www.mediafire.com/?k17rx6ma4kagk91
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Thanks for going through the trouble of downloading the whole thing just for that one game =p Looks like it was worth it afterall since now we've finally got a working rom!
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Could this be what I think it is?

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In all likelihood it's probably Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel, or Mr Nutz. Waiting to get more info from the seller. :|
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omg. i hope it's really Squirrel King. I fucking love Squirrel King.
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I'd just love to hear the SNEs renditions of the music, or whatever the soundtrack they use is. Unless it's Bonkers, cuz you know, we've had enough of that =p
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Yeah usally the SNES soundtracks sound better than the Sega Genesis. A good example could be Sparkster and Wayne's World Bohemian Rhapsody. It could either be a port of Squirrel King or mabey another game.
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Aug 7 2011, 09:56:24 PM
It could either be a port of Squirrel King or mabey another game.
Gee, no shit? =O
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Aug 7 2011, 09:56:24 PM
Yeah usally the SNES soundtracks sound better than the Sega Genesis.
In terms of ports, maybe. However, a lot of the Mega Drive exclusives sound a fair bit more impressive from personal experience.
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Aug 7 2011, 09:56:24 PM
Yeah usally the SNES soundtracks sound better than the Sega Genesis.
With unlicensed games, not always. With the current SNES titles, they're likely ports of the MD version, and are rushjobs moreso than the original game they're porting. Keep in mind that these are bootleggers; many have used the Bonkers sound engine without even writing any new songs. They just use Bonker's soundtrack rather than making their own.

If this game is Squirrel King, it would be heaven for me. I love the idea of great developers like Gamtec being on other systems, even though that probably isn't the case here.
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Aug 8 2011, 04:33:35 PM
If this game is Squirrel King, it would be heaven for me. I love the idea of great developers like Gamtec being on other systems, even though that probably isn't the case here.
As much as I wish it was, I really doubt it. Knowing what pirates are like, it's probably Mr. Nutz or something like that.
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Aug 7 2011, 09:56:24 PM
It could either be a port of Squirrel King or mabey another game.
Gee, no shit? =O
No seriously, it may be Squirrel King.

Then again it may be some other game.

Mark my words, regardless of the circumstances, it will be one or the other.
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Not necessarily. Maybe the cartridge is just full of delicious candy.
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If you ask me, I think there's some drugs in that cart.
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The seller never gave me any pics despite saying they would :/ Don't think they're gonna be responding anymore. They said it's a game where you play as a squirrel that collects fruit and attacks enemies. Doesn't sound like Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel or Mr. Nutz, but doesn't sound like Squirrel king either. I have no clue.
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I dunno, given how vague the description is it kind of sounds like Mr. Nutz more than anything.
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I TRIED TO TELL YOU GUYS
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I TRIED TO TELL YOU GUYS
Um, not to cause offence or anything but what did you try to tell us? :huh:
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Aug 9 2011, 04:56:39 AM
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Aug 9 2011, 04:55:05 AM
I TRIED TO TELL YOU GUYS
Um, not to cause offence or anything but what did you try to tell us? :huh:
That it was either Mr. Nutz, or any other existing SNES game... Or that it was full of candy and drugs.. Or something.
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I don't impressional~

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Aug 9 2011, 04:26:38 AM
I dunno, given how vague the description is it kind of sounds like Mr. Nutz more than anything.
Yeah, from that description, it sounds quite a bit like Mr. Nutz. For extremely broad definitions of "fruit", of course.
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Aug 9 2011, 04:26:38 AM
I dunno, given how vague the description is it kind of sounds like Mr. Nutz more than anything.
Yeah, from that description, it sounds quite a bit like Mr. Nutz. For extremely broad definitions of "fruit", of course.
Well either way, it certainly doesn't mention throwing crates or fireballs. :P
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Oh, look a game of my country!
i have one
of this pirated hacked brazilian SNES football hacks
Ronaldinho Soccer '98
Futebol Brasilieiro '97
Futebol Brasileiro '98
Futebol Brasilieiro
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Look son! its shenzhenshihenggnisnidfsuhopraiywepshrtasodughsérjohwelp0ouahe9ruiojr.
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Fake SNES games on sale on Aliexpress http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Games-for-SFC/633347_259758390.html
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I now know that the SNES version of Hercules 2 exists, because I watched a Spanish video of it. http://youtube.com/watch?v=vVgN4cBiqH0/
The music is based on the Megadrive version, and appears to be an original sound engine (a first?). But it sounds very poor compared to the Megadrive version. It's also worth noting that both games' music is from the PSX version (I've played it myself), but sometimes the music is incorrectly placed in the Megadrive version. I'll have to play it when it's dumped...
Edited by Rocman X, Jan 24 2015, 02:42:13 PM.
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Judging by what sounds like Street Fighter II sounds, it seems that the developers reused Capcom's sound engine.. much like in other games such as Pocket Monsters, and Pokemon Stadium. That video's a pretty neat find.
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Fake game RPG and hack on Aliexpress http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Games-Card/633347_259758390.html
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