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AtGames originals
Topic Started: Jun 29 2011, 10:03 PM (3,327 Views)
taizou
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i've been doing a bit of investigation into original games from AtGames' Firecore systems (their licensed Mega Drive clones, which are apparently really some kind of ARM based thing running an emulator). some of their newer systems have SD card slots, and an SD adapter is available for older ones - this is all ostensibly for playing these legit original games (but obviously the thing they're not telling Sega is that it also allows you to play thousands of illegally downloaded roms)

Anyway I just recently came across this video of the games from a Firecore SD card:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzQfSsKVVxo
& you can download the games here:
http://elektropage.ru/index.php/gopoher (second link)

AtGames themselves also have some games to download from this site:
http://www.mugaatgames.net/Free_Trial.html
& my Firecore Super Arcade console has a fair few included as well.


Bomber from the SD card is playable on standard Mega Drive emulators and has a Tectoy copyright in the ROM, and many of the games on the Super Arcade are credited to Tectoy & Devworks Game Technology (another Brazilian company), so I think those particular games were developed by Tectoy for their own endless MD variations and licensed to AtGames.

but! everything else is unplayable on an emulator, and all of those games, for some reason, have a "Chu Chu Rocket" header (remnants of some licensed port that never happened?) a "FVRING" copyright and the same font near the start of the ROM, which I guess are probably both from the dev kit.

now a lot of those games on the SD card and the Super Arcade are renamed ports of Shenzhen Niutai's games from various 16-bit systems (the Wiii3 has them for instance). they look nice enough, but, well, they sucked on the Wiii3 and they suck even more ported to the Mega Drive.
(edit: oh and, kind of amusingly, Niutai's Ping Pong is based on Cube Tech's one which samples Fable (Dream Version) by Robert Miles. because stealing music is Cube Tech's whole thing. and for the Mega Drive port they recreated that same song, not particularly well, with the MD sound hardware)

The ones on AtGames' site seem to have been developed by someone else, theyre all puzzles and they look more like flash games or something.

There are a couple of unique games though - "Fish Story" from the SD looks an awful lot like Nice Code's only listed Sega game. I kind of have a soft spot for Nice Code, its a shame their 16-bit/32-bit/Mega Drive/VT03 games don't show up more often. they've improved a hell of a lot since their earlier NES games, which were mostly terrible to be fair. And then there's Mahjong Solitaire on the Super Arcade which is the only one credited to AtGames themselves. (its fairly poor.)


also the Sega Reactor has some of the games from the Zone 40 built in, which I think is a VT168 - I haven't seen enough of that one to tell if they're ports or not, but I kind of suspect theyre not. I couldnt imagine Waixing going to all that effort. the Firecore seems to have the ability to switch to another system - the Super Arcade has a built in famiclone with 95 games - so they may well have done the same with the VT168 there.
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I could be wrong, but I suspect most of the games don't work because of an abnormal file size. Bomber is 128KB (the smallest size a Mega Drive game can be, I think) but all of the others are weird sizes like 894KB, 799KB, etc.
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Incidentally, it sounds like Niutai used the GEMS sound driver-- some of those instrument patches are very familiar-sounding from legit games that used that driver. Not surprising, really; that one was part of Sega's official dev kit.

And Fish Story both looks and sounds different from the Niutai stuff (among other things, "Start" is in an ugly bitmap font, not the usual smooth font of Niutai's games), so yeah, that one probably is Nice Code's.
Oh, and that font from the beginning of the ROM? Taken directly from an Atari 800.
Oh, another puzzling thing! In all the Niutai games-- as well as Fish Story-- there's nothing coherent that's visible in a tile editor other than the Atari font. Guessing there's some sort of weird encryption used in these or something?
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Jun 30 2011, 06:53 AM
Oh, another puzzling thing! In all the Niutai games-- as well as Fish Story-- there's nothing coherent that's visible in a tile editor other than the Atari font. Guessing there's some sort of weird encryption used in these or something?
I could be wrong, but I think Nice Code's VT03 games did the same thing.
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Aha. A bit of quick Googling reveals that "FVring" was Fonzie Voltonov's (apparently now defunct) Mega Drive homebrew site, which included, among other things, a development kit.

Edit: And Voltonov made a homebrew prototype version of... you guessed it... Chu Chu Rocket. It's available on his new site, Genny4Ever.
Edited by codeman38, Jun 30 2011, 07:10 AM.
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Jun 29 2011, 10:03 PM
i've been doing a bit of investigation into original games from AtGames' Firecore systems (their licensed Mega Drive clones, which are apparently really some kind of ARM based thing running an emulator). some of their newer systems have SD card slots, and an SD adapter is available for older ones - this is all ostensibly for playing these legit original games (but obviously the thing they're not telling Sega is that it also allows you to play thousands of illegally downloaded roms)

Anyway I just recently came across this video of the games from a Firecore SD card:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzQfSsKVVxo
& you can download the games here:
http://elektropage.ru/index.php/gopoher (second link)

AtGames themselves also have some games to download from this site:
http://www.mugaatgames.net/Free_Trial.html
& my Firecore Super Arcade console has a fair few included as well.


Bomber from the SD card is playable on standard Mega Drive emulators and has a Tectoy copyright in the ROM, and many of the games on the Super Arcade are credited to Tectoy & Devworks Game Technology (another Brazilian company), so I think those particular games were developed by Tectoy for their own endless MD variations and licensed to AtGames.

but! everything else is unplayable on an emulator, and all of those games, for some reason, have a "Chu Chu Rocket" header (remnants of some licensed port that never happened?) a "FVRING" copyright and the same font near the start of the ROM, which I guess are probably both from the dev kit.

now a lot of those games on the SD card and the Super Arcade are renamed ports of Shenzhen Niutai's games from various 16-bit systems (the Wiii3 has them for instance). they look nice enough, but, well, they sucked on the Wiii3 and they suck even more ported to the Mega Drive.
(edit: oh and, kind of amusingly, Niutai's Ping Pong is based on Cube Tech's one which samples Fable (Dream Version) by Robert Miles. because stealing music is Cube Tech's whole thing. and for the Mega Drive port they recreated that same song, not particularly well, with the MD sound hardware)

The ones on AtGames' site seem to have been developed by someone else, theyre all puzzles and they look more like flash games or something.

There are a couple of unique games though - "Fish Story" from the SD looks an awful lot like Nice Code's only listed Sega game. I kind of have a soft spot for Nice Code, its a shame their 16-bit/32-bit/Mega Drive/VT03 games don't show up more often. they've improved a hell of a lot since their earlier NES games, which were mostly terrible to be fair. And then there's Mahjong Solitaire on the Super Arcade which is the only one credited to AtGames themselves. (its fairly poor.)


also the Sega Reactor has some of the games from the Zone 40 built in, which I think is a VT168 - I haven't seen enough of that one to tell if they're ports or not, but I kind of suspect theyre not. I couldnt imagine Waixing going to all that effort. the Firecore seems to have the ability to switch to another system - the Super Arcade has a built in famiclone with 95 games - so they may well have done the same with the VT168 there.
Just wanted to make a slight clarification on the post. The guy who posted the video on Youtube, is the owner of elekropage.ru, but strangely enough, none of the hacked roms on his page are the one's in the video. Here is a direct link to those roms and apps for the Gopher http://elektropage.ru/publ/sega_suslik/14 I should also explain that these "hacks" may not be what the folks on this board generally consider a hack. Ever since I trashed my beloved Sega Nomad trying to do the LCD screen mod, I have become a huge fan of the Gopher because it's about the next best thing IMO. Anyways, the Gopher is rather finicky about what games it will play, so since the console also seems to be a big hit in Russia, several Russian hackers have modded certain games so that they will play on the Gopher. It seems that the Gopher reads the "mode" button as being continually pressed, which renders the games unplayable.
What I can't figure out is where he got the games he's playing on his SD card in the video. I can guarantee you they aren't on his site because I'm on there everyday looking for something new for the Gopher, lol. However, after following your link to the official AtGames website for the free downloads, the games he is playing appear very similar grafically to the screen shots they have there. Maybe they alternate the downloadable games every so often and he has just been collecting them? None of them look especially entertaining, however, I wouldn't mind getting the Puzzle Bobble knock off, as the original MD doesn't have any games like that. Anyone got any ideas as to where the games are from? H.G.

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Link is dead, but I think these are the games:

Logic Dial
https://app.box.com/s/ogwcb9na34ifilniage2

Mirror Mirror
https://app.box.com/s/51x1vbnfivv3ouok86yx

Panic Lift
https://app.box.com/s/u71zafqfu48irnos2mvw

Sparkling Truffle
https://app.box.com/s/l3v8o8yrd2t7dlqrholm
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is there a patched version of these or something? I got them downloaded but can't get them to load
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Hello! I apologize if this is an unfair bump, and if so, please feel free to delete my post. I have an AtGames Genesis with 40 of these original games on it hooked up to my TV right now, though- the ones that are listed here stand out to their relatively slick interfaces and non-horrific-nightmare-music, but some of them do seem a bit more disturbing, with strange, off key music and blurry graphics. The Freeway knockoff (I think it's called Cross the Road, creatively enough) even has a typo, which is a bad sign when the entire game only contains one line of text and it ends up being "All Rights Reserve." Would it be in any way helpful if I posted a list of these with the ones credited to Tectoy (which seems to be the only company willing to cop to these) marked off in some way, or are the contents of these machines pretty much common knowledge?
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yeah, that would be helpful, thanks!
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All right, nifty! I did my best to divide this list by developer, when possible, and title screen commonalities when developer information was not given. Though my photos, taken with a 3DS of an old fashioned TV/VCR, are not the best, I hope that they can provide some sort of information about the games themselves. If you guys would like any other low-tech pictures of title screens/gameplay, let me know! I can provide some gameplay information on these if anyone needs it, too. I admit that I play the Genesis games far more often, but it's not at all a chore to click on the machine and play any of these for a little bit.

Tectoy/Devworks titles
Air Hockey
Bottle Taps Race
Cannon
Checker
Fight or Lose (This is the only one marked 2005- the rest are either 2000 or suffer from screen cropping at the last digit of the year)
Mr. Balls
Naval Power
Spider

AtGames Holdings, 2008
A lot of the "originals" on this machine are bad, but this set of games is blurry, unplayable, and plagued with the sort of music that makes you think of clowns murdering people.
Mahjong Solitaire
Memory
Snake
Warehouse Keeper

BS Comp Ltd./Padis Ltd. 1998
Chess

Slick interface- Matches the games previously discussed in this thread

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Black Sheep
Brain Switch
Bulls and Cows
Color Puzzle
Dominant Color
Firefly Glow
Flash Memory
Formula Challenge
Logic Dial
Match Eleven
Mega Brain Switch
Memory Match
Mirror Mirror
Panic Lift
Reaction Match
Space Hunter
Sudoku Quiz
Table Magic
Treasure Hunt
Whack A Wolf

1 Player/2 Player/Instructions Title Screen Prompt
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Bomber
Hexagonos (This is a bacterial infection themed game, but very board game-ish.)

Press Start/All Rights Reserved interface
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Cross the Road
Curling 2010 (which is actually dodgeball, but fair enough)
Jack's Pea (AtGames stole the music from this and somehow made it terrifying for their Mahjong game)
Jewel Magic

Flashing "Press Start" Interface
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I own a separate cart of 40 of these games. Unfortunately, it doesn't work on a real Mega Drive (or indeed anything that has even half-decent sound emulation) so I don't know if it'd be possible to play them on one.
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