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Expanding the Forum; How to bring more people to the site
Topic Started: 17 Apr 2012, 07:00 AM (438 Views)
Attelis
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GENTLEMEN,

I come with some propositions to bring more people to the forum and achieve more. As a small community, I feel we'd benefit from attracting more users and having more things to do on the site.

First of all, we should consider other forms of animation. Pivot is awesome, but its userbase is dwindling, and it is not a whole lot different to animation programs such as stykz and EZToon. For this purpose, I think we should advertise to these groups as well. This might re-purpose P_F to a 'silent film' website, but is that bad? (Please provide your opinions guys)

Secondly, I suggest doing away with the ranked forums like beginner, inters and pro, and use a portal, much like the one on Newgrounds. Why? Because people want that! On Darkdemon, it has been wanted ever since it was removed. The concept of an animation portal for silent film, not just pivot, would be great.

It would also bring several types of silent animation together, so the users would be able to have a second portal for music, or even just a radio! This gives people even more stuff to do, and it doesn't take long either. After all, if you submit an animation to a portal and you get the 'best animation of the week', you'd feel a lot better than if you worked really hard on an intermediate level animation and got told to work on easing, right?

Also, I think we should still have an 'animation showoff' forum where we can post submissions for critique, and get ranked in a similar way to how we are now; just in only one subforum.

I also think we should seriously reconsider the structure of the forum, such that forum games and spam are combined, and 'Random Talk' and 'Spam' are more clearly defined.

'Tutoring' is currently also boring. What incentive to tutors have to tutor? For this purpose, I think tutors should get insane amounts of P_F points when the system is finished, to encourage people to help each other.

Back to rankings; if we DO keep animation rankings in the allocated 'critique' forum, I suggest we make each rank explicitly defined. Right now, intermediates require good easing, decent poses and semi-realistic movements, while pros also have to consider physics and/or complex effects. That's great, but that's a bit broad. We should be talking about how figures need to react, WHY the ranks are split up the way they are, and how people can improve once they reach 'pro' status.

Last of all, we need to make animation accessible. We need to have a big sign on the forum for users who haven't logged in saying 'Hey! Welcome to P_F! Download pivot here, make an animation, save it as a .gif, and then upload it to cubeupload or your preferred hosting site and share your creations with the community!' We need to make the process of coming into animation as easy as possible. (Note: if we do mention a host, we should ask them if they're ok with us using their site as our endorsed host. Some hosts may disagree with that)

This might sound a lot like what Darren posted on Darkdemon, and that's because I was inspired by it. Darkdemon wants to change, so why shouldn't we? We're just going to change different aspects, because after all, we're a different forum, just with the same purpose.
Edited by Attelis, 17 Apr 2012, 07:00 AM.
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Ace
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Won't that cost money to have our own?
If its free, that'd be cool
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Money is (hopefully) not going to ruin things, with MF's proposed plan. (You goddamn hero you, MF)

Also, I think admins and mods should be clearly 'explained' to forum users. For a long, LONG time I thought admins were just 'mods who got promoted to administrate because they proved their worth for ages'. Admins administrate because they are apt at dealing with administration tasks and technical problems. Mods are more suited to dealing with people and moderating and controlling the 'flow' of the forum. They're two different tasks, for two different groups. I think if users are told WHAT these groups do, they will respect them more.

Just a thought.
Edited by Attelis, 25 Apr 2012, 01:36 AM.
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Wow.

Up till this moment, I did not know that THAT was the main difference between mods and admins. Thank you for explaining that to me, Endless. I feel less completely uninformed.

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You should expand to games as well. Like minecraft. I've got an 80 slot server I'm working on bringing up if that interests you. Attract users for world of warcraft and FPS games and this forum will be huge.
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Making it a universal forum would be nice, but getting the people to stay and be apart of the community is a whole different task. I would love to see this forum turn into something big but it would take a long while.

Another thing that factors into this is that even if we have all types of games, there are forums that are for a certain thing (example Team Liquid for Starcraft). Those interfere with our idea because that community is already set to that certain thing and the people will go to that forum because it's set to that one thing.

Sticking to art and animation would give a smaller target audience but it will make them feel that this website is more suited to their needs.
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Guys, you do realize that this is exactly what Endless was talking about in just about every one of his posts in this topic? lol.

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We don't even need to be very specific on what type of forum we are, and just invite most people. I mean, hardly any of us animate or do anything creative (wait, that's just meD:) anymore anyways.
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