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| volz83 | Aug 11 2015, 12:40 PM Post #16 |
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So here is the little girl at 2.5 weeks old! I have a question. I know kit's eye color changes after the eyes open up, takes a while for their true color to develop. I never paid attention but about what age does the eye color stop changing/becomes the true color? It seems brown eyes turn brown pretty quickly. I ask because right now her eyes are dilute but not a deep chestnut brown, just wondering how old I can finally call it if she has dilute or brown eyes. |
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| NeuBunny | Aug 11 2015, 04:05 PM Post #17 |
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Usually, by 4 weeks they are pretty settled. But on some of my 'purple-eyed' (lilac base or dilute + chl) kits their color darkens yet after 4 months (e.g., Vern, my lilac tort, had very purple eyes when I got him at 4 months old, but they darkened quite a bit and are now a very dark grey with a hint of ruby-cast ... which looks brown except in direct sunlight).
Edited by NeuBunny, Aug 11 2015, 04:08 PM.
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| volz83 | Aug 11 2015, 09:39 PM Post #18 |
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Thanks! Just have to wait two more weeks! |
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| wildrabbits | Aug 13 2015, 04:15 AM Post #19 |
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I have had some cchd carriers who's eyes appeared green at certain ages. From some of my experiences eye color can change dramatically for up to 6 months age and maybe even have seasonal differences. A very tricky thing I would like to point out with some of my past pearl colors is that the darkened color of the face and ears can be very different than the color shading on the body. My current female pearl for example seems to have lilac face/ears yet seems to have a chocolate shading on the body and my giant pearl who passed had lilac face/ears but blue shading on the body. From the most recent pics showing the front it seems like there is coloring coming in on the feet which suggests more to me that this tricky white you have shown seems more of a lilac sable point or at least carries cchl...aacchd_ee and aacchl_ee should both have the tort side flank markings... I don't know how A_cchl_ee looks for sure yet though.. I will soon have to post up current pics of the 2 pearly lops I have now to show the differences I am referring to. |
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| volz83 | Aug 13 2015, 09:30 AM Post #20 |
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Yes please do post pictures! I have a sable point doe, same sire to this kit but different dam, whom is a very very clean sable point with strong ruby cast but even she had side flank shading up until her first molt. So it makes me wonder, why doesn't this kit have any? And why is the coloring strongest on the tail, ears and face but coloring on the feet very faint? Like you mentioned, the coloring on her feet is just now showing up. I think she is 3 weeks old today so I'll get a picture of her
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| wildrabbits | Aug 21 2015, 08:16 PM Post #21 |
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Sorry I have super caught up with things, I will try to see about getting old pics and new pics on here as soon as I can. I have to contact my friend for the old pics on the male |
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| volz83 | Aug 25 2015, 07:01 PM Post #22 |
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Not a problem! Well the sex fairy paid a visit and it's a little buck lol I do not plan on keeping him, he has fair bone but he sure is cute! Kit is 4 weeks old now and eyes are still blue/gray. As soon as the kit is in the shade, the red cast is VERY strong. It squints a lot more than any other rabbit I had before when in sunlight, I assume because of dilute eyes. I hope you can see the ruby cast in these pictures, it's even stronger in person. I assume this kit is either blue point or blue sallandar. I also noticed it has a lot of red around the eyes to. |
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| NeuBunny | Aug 26 2015, 07:34 AM Post #23 |
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Just a thought, but with the coloring temperature sensitive, the tendency some babies have to spend a lot of time with feet tucked under/in is going to keep the feet closer to body temperature. Edited by NeuBunny, Aug 26 2015, 07:35 AM.
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| volz83 | Aug 27 2015, 09:42 PM Post #24 |
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Never thought of that! |
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| wildrabbits | Sep 11 2015, 04:37 PM Post #25 |
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Mylop Splorer= Pearl coat, very few bands of coloring, some distinctively mild astrex and angora carrier with fur that stands in place, light hazel eyes with little to no blue green or red colorations![]()
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| wildrabbits | Sep 11 2015, 04:53 PM Post #26 |
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???Sable point lop= Male who is half sister and half brother to Mylop Splorer/18.75% relation. Currently seems like Sable point color, darkened face, undercoat of feet is dark then turns white, various color bands in coat, fur is "still standing" and stays in place like Splorer, possible angora and/or slight astrex carrier, eye color darkened hazel with slight green expression. Came from litter which all appeared blue chinchilla colors during youth, at certain age color rapidly changed to mostly white, I personally did not take care of this litter myself so was very unable to make much of any proper studies needed. I don't know what age or season dramatic color changes started to occur...maybe someone else has more info as to how cchl gene may cause this???... ![]() ![]()
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| wildrabbits | Sep 11 2015, 05:16 PM Post #27 |
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My suspected possible color genotypes; Splorer=Aabbcchd_ddee?? maybe with wideband influence? Male lop=AabbcchdcchlddEe?? Both seem to have lilac phenotype expression in face and parts of undercoat yet both also seem to have a distinctive gold/chocolate colored tipping on fur over back and parts of the sides...not sure of exact cause for this but doesn't seem like it is entirely from chocolate "bb" genes. Take note of the tort colored male also pictured, he is father to both pearly lops and seems to be aaBbCcchlDdee genotype possibly carrying an angora gene and a more pronounced form of WAVY astrex gene. Astrex genes mentioned seem wavy with very mild kinks going all the way up hair...Does not seem super curly, super kinky, super ridged or super wavy as usually astrex fur tends to be...f.e. My astrex rex male is extraordinarily different in texture and fur shaping. Distinctive sheen effect to coat color from astrex gene has been noticed..this probably adds its own distinctive color differences which I am currently unable to entirely/fully understand and isolate at the current time. |
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| volz83 | Oct 1 2015, 01:24 PM Post #28 |
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He ended up having brown eyes but they started out a very blue/gray. I suspect the dam carries the c(chd) gene because she keeps producing seals with blue eyes which then turn into a marbled eye color (i.e. brown mixed with blue, mixed with gray and sometimes lavender). I have one seal who's eyes started out blue then marbled and now seems to being turning to brown like they should have been. But the above kit was for sure sable point but very very clean so the high ruby cast to eyes. I wonder why, in my experience, the cleaner the sable point, the more ruby cast to the eyes? I have had smutty sables points before and they never had a ruby cast at all. Wasn't until I bred my Siamese sable buck that carried REW that he threw very clean sable points and those sable points had ruby cast to eyes. I did have a couple of slightly smutty sable points out of him (2 total) that didn't have ruby cast- those two sable points were from him and a tort carrying sable point so I suspect those two smutty sable points were: aa,BB, c(chl),c(chl),D_,. My theory is that a sable point carrying two sable point genes is a smutty sable point from my own experiences. |
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| wildrabbits | Oct 6 2015, 10:46 PM Post #29 |
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I have noticed many rabbits carrying cchdc who have much cleaner/whiter coats and lighter eyes/slight ruby cast, sometimes appearing purple with maturity. I am still lost as to what gene combinations in particular will make the coat of a rabbit, full extension colors that fade to non extension colors as they age..?? I feel like I couldn't learn enough about differing AA/Aa/aa, cchdcchd/cchd/cchl, and EE/Ee/ee mixed genotypes =/ |
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I do not plan on keeping him, he has fair bone but he sure is cute! Kit is 4 weeks old now and eyes are still blue/gray. As soon as the kit is in the shade, the red cast is VERY strong. It squints a lot more than any other rabbit I had before when in sunlight, I assume because of dilute eyes. I hope you can see the ruby cast in these pictures, it's even stronger in person. I assume this kit is either blue point or blue sallandar. I also noticed it has a lot of red around the eyes to.





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