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A rant D:
Topic Started: Aug 6 2011, 09:26 PM (675 Views)
DevonW
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I browse classified sites a lot and I absolutely cannot stand it when I see people selling rabbits that are 4 weeks old. So I always reply to the ads saying I'm concerned that they are selling the rabbits so young as their gut flora is still developing properly and separating them from their mother so early runs a higher risk of the kit dying which is not fair to the buyer or the rabbit. I never write it in a derogatory or rude way either.

However tonight I wrote a reply to one ad where the kits had just been born and they would be ready to go in 4 weeks, and this was the response I got I'm changing the curse words for G-rated words :)

"Actually, I have been breeding baby bunnies for year now, you have no fluffy right to tell me how you "think" shenanigans should go.... They start eating hard food at 3 weeks, while still eating from their mother, and at 4 weeks they can go away from their mother as they are strong enough. Thanks for your "suggestions" but i dont need some fluffy person telling a registered breeder how to do her job.... Grow the fluff up. you reply if you want one. if not dont open your mouth."

Of course I found this reply rather shocking. As I just expressed my concern of the age she was selling the rabbits. She never even took into consideration that perhaps I may have been interested in buying but thought she was selling to young.

Of course being me I had to reply in a more in depth way about why 4 weeks was to young and I asked where she was registered. The next reply I got was.

"I know what my rabbits are, and i dont have to tell you shells. stop responding. I know what im doing."

Anyways I reply getting somewhat fed up that she refused to tell me anything about what club she was registered with after saying she was a "registered" breeder, I was still being polite about it, I offered some educational links on rabbit breeding and links to local and national clubs. Basically after that I get called a "Fluffing retard" a "Mental case" and that I should get a "fluffing life." all in one sentence.

However I looked at the ad again and now the age says 5/6 weeks so at least something came out of the whole exchange.
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I can't stand people like that. I don't know why they put the rabbits in danger by selling them that young.. I don't see the point. She was pretty quick to pull out the swear words and insults, too. :bonk:

I love "fluffy" and "shenanigans". :rofl:
Edited by sidd-says-gimme, Aug 6 2011, 10:08 PM.
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Hahaha. Fluffy... shenanigans... when I have to use word filters, I am so using those!

You clearly were the better person, Devon. Using anytime of foul language in a is immature. Go you!
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Devon, you know me well enough to know that I'm seldom at a loss for words. You also know how I've responded multiple times on threads of the same subject matter on other forums we have or currently belong to.

The breeder you're involved in that dialogue embraces everything that is damaging to our hobby. They throw gasoline onto the flames of every tree-hugging pervert, animal rights retard on the planet by giving them the platform to argue against puppy mills, and they're becoming increasingly successful in lumping breeders of many other animals into the same category. Unfortunately for us, rabbits have been lumped in, as well.

What happened to the breeder in CO a few months back was criminal, and IMHO should scare the crap out of all of us, as it could have easily been any of a number of us. In the case you cited above, it is a case of a breeder doing it to his or herself, and we will end up bearing the brunt of it.

If you want me to get "colorful" with that idiot, just PM me their info.
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Not to mention it's only slightly illegal to sell an animal that young. Just slightly ;)


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If you want me to get "colorful" with that idiot, just PM me their info.


Back up!

I'm only light hearted about this situation because I know this girl is building up her own demise. "I've been doing this for a year", since when did doing something for a year automatically make someone an expert? :rolleyes: She clearly needs to educate herself one 1. how to raise a rabbit, and 2. how to socialize better with people, cause that year of "experience" isn't helping her much.
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Aug 7 2011, 07:23 AM
Not to mention it's only slightly illegal to sell an animal that young. Just slightly ;)


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If you want me to get "colorful" with that idiot, just PM me their info.


Back up!

I'm only light hearted about this situation because I know this girl is building up her own demise. "I've been doing this for a year", since when did doing something for a year automatically make someone an expert? :rolleyes: She clearly needs to educate herself one 1. how to raise a rabbit, and 2. how to socialize better with people, cause that year of "experience" isn't helping her much.
Where we are unfortunately there is no law against how old you can sell a rabbit kit :( I really wish there was.

I love being a part of a forum that has mature breeders on it, it keeps me sane every time I see someone selling some sort of mixed breed rabbit at an absurdly young age that acts like they know everything..
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Aug 7 2011, 07:23 AM
Not to mention it's only slightly illegal to sell an animal that young. Just slightly ;)


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If you want me to get "colorful" with that idiot, just PM me their info.


Back up!

I'm only light hearted about this situation because I know this girl is building up her own demise. "I've been doing this for a year", since when did doing something for a year automatically make someone an expert? :rolleyes: She clearly needs to educate herself one 1. how to raise a rabbit, and 2. how to socialize better with people, cause that year of "experience" isn't helping her much.
When I say "get colorful" with that individual, it doesn't mean I intend to go all Gunny Hartmann on her. Just that I can roll with the punches she's throwing and be as pigheaded as she is while being adult about it at the same time.

I had to do this kind of stuff in the USAF with a flight full of mechanics on a daily basis. I know how to communicate something without stooping to her level.

The worst part of what she's doing is that it will be exploited by animal rights nutjobs to overlegislate operations to the rest of us. The punishments which will ultimately be doled out when she is caught and her demise begins won't stop with her. That's simply not how it works. It will be exploited by local media, lawmakers will be called into action, and the aftermath of it will be forced upon each and every one of us, as well. The 6 Bells Rabbitry fiasco and SB 917 are both prime examples of what I'm referring to. They should alarm the crap out of all of us.
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^^ I forgot about that part... Of course she wont care until she gets attacked.


Something else I hate seeing are breeders who sell their pets for $50. Seriously? That's a lot for an unshowable rabbit with no pedigree.
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When I was selling pets I sold mine for $40.00 because it reduced the amount of people e-mailing me who weren't serious about owning a rabbit. Of course it's not fool proof but it helped.
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Aug 7 2011, 02:41 PM
^^ I forgot about that part... Of course she wont care until she gets attacked.


Something else I hate seeing are breeders who sell their pets for $50. Seriously? That's a lot for an unshowable rabbit with no pedigree.
Most who charge $50+ for a pet rabbit are doing so to weed out the spur of the moment buyers who are buying based on impulse. Most people who will pay $50 for a pet rabbit are going to make an effort to take care of it like it should be.
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I guess i don't see the point, I'm waiting for the day when pet buyers give me issues.. It's coming.. I know it... I keep my prices low. I have to, there are 2 other breeders in my city, and an another 3 in the county (probably more, but I'm not counting a few).. If I want to sell my rabbits, I have to sell the same price as they do, or I wont sell anything.
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Our local Tractor Supply this spring was selling babies that were 3/4 weeks old. A friend of mine that works there called me because I have a BIG Mouth! I went to the store, brought up all the babies 12 of them. I called the SPCA and the Department of Ag. I also traced who the seller was and contacted them as to why there were selling the rabbits at such a young age. Their response was "they are cute at that age. I wouldn't be able to sell them if they were older, they would loose their cute factor."

Needless to say I wrote a big article up in Sound Off which is a part of the Delaware State News. Explaining Delaware Law on selling rabbits. It is mandatory that rabbits are not to be sold unless they are 9 weeks old.

It makes me want to hit them with a Stupid Stick. The guy was fined, lost all of his rabbits.
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I hate it when people sell rabbits and say its "show quality". When its clearly not. I saw a holland litter. For sale for $30 each and apparently were "amazing show rabbits that win a lot" and everyone on here knows that a show holland costs around $100+ and I looked at the type and it was HORRIBLE! People should know something about what they are doing before they do it.
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Aug 7 2011, 06:36 PM
I hate it when people sell rabbits and say its "show quality". When its clearly not. I saw a holland litter. For sale for $30 each and apparently were "amazing show rabbits that win a lot" and everyone on here knows that a show holland costs around $100+ and I looked at the type and it was HORRIBLE! People should know something about what they are doing before they do it.
I see that around here a lot too, there are several breeders that sell everything they have as show quality when it's hard to even identify what the breed is.
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Aug 7 2011, 03:57 PM
I guess i don't see the point, I'm waiting for the day when pet buyers give me issues.. It's coming.. I know it... I keep my prices low. I have to, there are 2 other breeders in my city, and an another 3 in the county (probably more, but I'm not counting a few).. If I want to sell my rabbits, I have to sell the same price as they do, or I wont sell anything.
Here's my perspective on it:

Many people will buy younger rabbits to feed to pet snakes (boa constrictors, pythons, etc.). To each their own I guess, but the practice of snake ownership in this country is on the verge of creating a HUGE environmental problem, as many owners of these snakes are releasing them into the wild. There are very few, and in many cases NO natural predators for these snakes, leaving them to multiply rapidly and unchecked, and it already has resulted in a couple of cases of young children being attacked by pythons in this country.

I personally loathe the practice of selling rabbits to people who are buying them for such a purpose, and it's my belief that faced with a $50+ meal for their snake, they will look elsewhere.
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