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Green-eyed rabbits?
Topic Started: Jun 19 2013, 09:46 AM (2,010 Views)
NeuBunny
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A weird question -- has anyone ever had or heard of green eyed rabbits? Either permanent or as a developmental stage?

My two chocolate tort kits (now 5 weeks old) appear to have pale green eyes. MAYBE you could call them grey, but really more green to me right now.

Can't for the life of me get them to photograph ... but they match this paint chip pretty well...

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just curious whether anyone else out there has seen anything like it?

Incidentally, it is really pretty against the orange fur!





Edited by NeuBunny, Jun 19 2013, 09:47 AM.
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reh
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Yes, there was a disussion on the rabbit genetics yahoo group and i emailed with a person who had rabbits, which starts with
blue eyes, then turn to an amber/green color.
In both cases the rabbits was brown based.
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NeuBunny
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exactly! amber-green (depending on light) with a really strong ruby cast (most lights) is how I would describe Zoe's (mom's) eyes!

so it seems to be something with chocolate gene then...and probably my two torts will end up with eyes like mom's.

I'll have to wait and see whether they get faulted for it on the show table. If not, I kind of like the color - especially against the orange-brown of the chocolate tort.

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That is soooo neat! Hopefully you'll be able to get a good pic some day... I know how hard it can be to get a picture with the same color as in real life.
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Yesterday i saw this color (parents both black tort, one carrying REW):
http://luvlops.com/holland_lop/juniors/attachment/luv-lops-marshmello-2/
There are several animals with this color from the same line and there eyes are blue green.
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I have a doe with grey/green eyes. Just a mutt. Bit I can get ok pictures of her eyes. I was told on here it's because she is frosty.
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Thought I would bring this topic back up as I am quite curious to hear more on what others think and any current correlations that may be known or seen.

I have noticed only one rabbit from my bloodlines who had grey/green eyes which was some sort of mixed blue chinchilla genotype(was unable to test breed). The blue/green eyed rabbits I have had were all lilac chinchilla(Ee and ee) possibly carrying BEW, one lilac pearl(chdc genes) changed into a sort of purpled eye color from a ruby cast. The hazel/green eye colored rabbits all darkened quite a bit with age and again were chd dominant genotypes carrying b.

This has me a bit puzzled though because now I am pretty much seeing mostly hazel eyes from the start with all my pearls, chinchilla colors, and even some dilute colors...I will have to recheck some of my younger rabbits for green coloration in proper lighting though..

Neubunny were you by any chance able to confirm that these green eyed chocolate tort rabbits you mentioned were chocolate torts? Does anyone think the recessive e gene could be a huge part of seeing the most green in eye color? Also what would be the genetic causes for lilac chinchilla colors to have brown or hazel eyes? I don't remember reading that this was common..but I also haven't really brushed up on color genes in a while.
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My green-eyed babies were definitely chocolate tort … but they both outgrew the green color and settled to a normal brown by 12 weeks. The one doe I kept and bred (Maia - to her brother, Malakbel) produced a chocolate pearl as well as one I believe was chocolate seal. I believe (but can't definitely prove the chl as I sold the kit I suspected was seal) Maia is aabbCchlDdee. Malakbel, Maia's full brother and father to the litter is proven aabbCchlD-Ee - he is solid chocolate with normal brown eyes. The chocolate pearl (Cinderella, still in the barn and now 9 months old) has very strange eyes - a pale gold with a very strong ruby cast in certain lighting -- she would be aabbchl-D-ee. Chocolate seal kit (suspected aabbchlchlD-Ee) had eyes with such a strong ruby cast it was almost impossible to see the regular color under it -- but did look greenish in some lights and purple in others. That litter also included 1 chocolate, 1 lilac tort and 5 chocolate torts all with normal eye color (dark grey on the lilac, brown on the others, some with a a slight ruby cast, but none extreme). In a separate litter, Malakbel produced a chocolate shaded agouti (Milkshake AabbchlcD-Ee) who had eyes of very similar to the chocolate seal (also sold, so I can't say for sure whether she would have outgrown it, but I suspect not). Maia's mother, Zoe, has greenish eyes (still as a 3 year old) - more a grey-green, not the startling bright shade Maia's were as a baby, with a strong ruby cast - she is proven chocolate sable … aabbchlcD-Ee.

I think that e (expressed or carried) MAY be a factor in getting 'off' eye colors like hazel, green and gold. Many people have reported chl genotypes (expressed or carried) giving strange eye colors (usually blue-grey eyes on blacks, brown eyes on blues, but also the odd hazel, green, gold, extreme ruby cast, etc). chd (not an issue in my line) is also commonly reported to shift eye colors … some breed standards even allow for blue-grey and marbled eye colors on chins (which theoretically should be brown). Chocolate (b) is also commonly reported to give ruby cast and I think may be a factor in producing the off eye colors in my line - I've only seen off eye colors in my chocolate - based angoras … animals which are only carriers for chl seem to outgrow the off eye color, those in which chl is dominant don't. All my angoras at least carry e (only my chocolate and chocolate sable and possibly my new broken lilac buck are Ee -- all the rest ee).
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wildrabbits
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Thank you for sharing these speculations Neubunny. I would kinda like to record green eyed rabbit phenotypes and genotypes whenever possible for a better understanding of the key sources and any known gene correlations.

Anyone with any experiences here please feel free to share your findings =)
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I'll add one more to my odd eye color list. Prince Charming is a broken lilac that I brought in with intent to be outcross for my does out of the full sibling cross. Looking over his pedigree I realized that he is almost certainly a genetic broken lilac sable (aabbchlcddE- Enen) ... he has the brightest purple eyes I've ever seen.
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The super purple eyes make sense from the bbchlcdd genes. I wonder how the A series and E series genes might interact to produce different eye colors..I recently realized that the fawn and the pearl in my newest litter must actually be eje because there is only one parent with carrying an e gene. All the eje rabbits appear to have purpled or hazel eye colors so far
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