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| ZRabbits | Sep 19 2013, 07:00 AM Post #1 |
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Love My Lions!
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My rabbits do get greens but this is the first time I've seen one of my rabbits pee red, plus have cecal that was not eaten. My Chocolate LH, Tonks seems to love her greens, but the greens are not loving her. I checked her over, her bum is dry, she's active and was hungry this morning. Just didn't like what I saw with the half eaten cecal. Plus seeing "red" always makes me think of bleeding. I know the greens does change the color of rabbit urine. So Tonks will not get as much greens. Maybe even cut it out completely. Jennie, my other Chocolate LH has a problem with too much flax and have cut that out to a bare minimum as well. Goes to show you, rabbits may be from the same litter, but their digestive systems are definitely their own. |
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| NeuBunny | Sep 19 2013, 10:33 AM Post #2 |
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Genetics Geek!
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Could be too high protein in her diet - not just the greens. Too much protein can shift the urine to red and protein (next to B vitamins) is the main thing rabbits 'get' by eating cecals.
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| ZRabbits | Sep 20 2013, 07:06 AM Post #3 |
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Thanks Neubunny. Feed my Z-Tribe Oxbow Adult Essentials and it's not a high protein pellet, like Manna Pro. Tonks has been fine on those. Truly points to the greens I fed her. She LOVES them so maybe I went a little overboard with them. Will just cut back and look at greens as a treat for her. |
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| sidd-says-gimme | Sep 20 2013, 11:48 AM Post #4 |
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sidd says stay gold
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Some of mine are sensitive to them as well. I used them as occasional treats for my gang. Some don't get any, others get a bit, then a couple get as much as they want. |
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| redbunny | Oct 5 2013, 05:27 PM Post #5 |
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I feed carrots, grass, apples, turnip and swede but always just a tiny bit.....I worry about them getting too runny then the sticky bum which can't be nice for them to clean. As much as I like to give treats or variety my head says don't mess with the diet. Too rich a diet especially carbohydrates always cause issues. |
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| ZRabbits | Oct 6 2013, 03:39 AM Post #6 |
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Love My Lions!
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Red, totally agree and definitely go with your "head". Variety of foods for the Z-Tribe works well for me but as my rabbitry grows I'm really thinking "don't mess with the diet". I'm finding out through my experience with the Z-Tribe, that rabbit's digestive systems, may all be the same, but take in and process nutrition in different ways. Stress also is a factor on that as well. Stress in growing physically, molting, weaning. That kind of stress. Keeping it "simple" with many rabbits and raising babies, will help you and me in the end. Also with keeping them in "show" condition. A treat once in awhile, I see will be fine. Can't help spoiling them. |
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| sidd-says-gimme | Oct 6 2013, 07:51 AM Post #7 |
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sidd says stay gold
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For me, a simple diet has done very well. Most of my rabbits get the same feed store pellets with 17% protein but Sidd (my older bun) and Suzume (who seems to have a delicate digestive tract) get a mix of that and a 16% extruded feed. Bunnies who didn't eat all of their breakfast/supper get some of that to convince them to eat. Moms or bunnies that I want to add weight to get BOSS, oats or Cheerios but not much and not often. If I have hay they get that. Veggies/fruits seem to complicate things but if I get anything that's easy on them, they get that. Works well for me. |
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| redbunny | Oct 6 2013, 02:20 PM Post #8 |
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Cheerios..... The breakfast cereal? Never heard of that. My lot like rich tea biscuits or hard bread baked dry, usually that grainy stuff that breaks your teeth. Been giving mine windfall apples.....two have mucky bums now! Two youngsters.....that's not good. |
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| ZRabbits | Oct 6 2013, 02:33 PM Post #9 |
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Yes the breakfast cereal. It's a toasted whole grain oat cereal. Z-Tribe and the Bunny Watcher love it, as well as the humans too. I don't give them a whole lot but they love it as a treat. It helps with hay eating too. They get their cheerios and then hay and once they gobble up the cheerios, they hit the hay. I don't know about the rich tea biscuits, but the hard bread baked dry would be a good treat. Might break your teeth but it works wonders on rabbit teeth. I've made wheat treats before. There are some really good recipes for good rabbit treats out there. I kind of stay away from the fruit. Just papaya. But do give a dryed banana slice once in a while too. But I find that too much sugar can upset some bellies, and it seems you have two that sugar doesn't settle well in their systems. |
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| redbunny | Nov 2 2013, 05:53 PM Post #10 |
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Z I was reading about alfalfa today. It's sold here in the UK for rabbits yet I've read on the USA websites that it's not at all good for rabbits. What's your thoughts? |
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| ZRabbits | Nov 2 2013, 06:21 PM Post #11 |
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Alfalfa is excellent for young rabbits, nursing does, but bad for adult rabbits. Too rich that produces fat. Oxbow for Young Rabbit is an alfalfa based pellet. Fed my LHs and Flemish that until they hit the 6 month mark (my Flemish by 8 months), then gradually weaned them off of it to a timothy based pellet. Luna, I kept on it until I was ready to wean the last kit. Good to keep weight on nursing does. When I first got my first rabbits, they were on timothy based pellets. When Kreacher got sick I needed to get weight back on him and that's when I found out about alfalfa. So got a bag of alfalfa and it showed me how alfalfa can put weight on. That's when I researched about alfalfa pellets and have had the rest of my rabbits on that regiment. |
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