| The Murdoch Affair and Leveson Report; will it run and run? | |
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| Mobson | Jul 15 2011, 11:31 AM Post #1 |
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Think we should run a new thread...since this one's obviously going to..... So the first of the 'sword fallings' in the upper echelons of the Murdoch Empire has gone to Mrs Brooks...... (love the additions to the smiley family - is there one for falling on swords!) ReBeKaH has eventually resigned! brickwallll her full statement.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14166004 Saw on late news last night one of News Internationals biggest shareholders after Murdoch (sitting on his boat somewhere exotic) saying this matter really has to be resolved quickly - no fear of that now the FBI are involved! Edited by caissier, Nov 29 2012, 05:40 PM.
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| madfor4 | Mar 15 2013, 06:42 PM Post #201 |
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The Sun's associate editor, Trevor Kavanagh "Without a free press there will be more undiscovered corruption in our public life". "Think of the Hillsborough cover-up." Trying to rewrite history! He's conveniently forgetting it was the 'Sun' that was most vocal in the cover-up.
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| becky sharp | Mar 15 2013, 08:07 PM Post #202 |
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| becky sharp | Mar 15 2013, 08:09 PM Post #203 |
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A telling article (I thought) from Lloyd Evans in The Spectator. PMQs sketch: Nothing changes, yet everything is different There comes a moment in a PM’s journey when he crests the ridge and starts on the downhill leg. David Cameron made that unhappy transition today. PMQs began with a gag from a Labour backbencher.... More here.... http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/03/pmqs-sketch-nothing-changes-yet-everything-is-different/ |
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| caissier | Mar 16 2013, 01:12 PM Post #204 |
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They've all got it in for Cameron. I suspect they are playing a very long game ........ Owen Jones was saying, in the Independent, that this neo-liberalism started back in the late 40s and that there is a long term plan to ratchet things back to before Lloyd George's 1906 Budget. They have written off the next election but can feel they've succeeded in accomplishing a fair bit of destruction to the welfare state and the idea of government 'interference'. They'll do some more next time.
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| madfor4 | Mar 18 2013, 09:18 AM Post #205 |
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Who's telling 'Porkies'. This morning Harriet Harman said a deal had been reached and the Royal Charter would be safeguarded from unilateral ministerial change by a HoL's legal amendment. Less than an hour later Maria Miller said there wasn't a 'done deal' and there was no legal safeguard and Cameron had "Seen off Labour's extreme version," (no doubt meaning Leveson's original recommendations that Labour have accepted).... In a BBC post I suggested, partly in jest, that "Next Clegg will claim it as a victory for the LibDems".. Just read "Nick Clegg said it was essentially a victory for the Lib Dems...." Edited by madfor4, Mar 18 2013, 12:45 PM.
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| becky sharp | Mar 18 2013, 01:40 PM Post #206 |
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They're all acting like big girl's blouses (where on earth did that phrase come from? ) over this ..
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| Mobson | Mar 18 2013, 08:36 PM Post #207 |
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I've been watching the Press Regulation Debate in the HoC since it started this afternoon after the emergency statement on Cyprus ...it's not got long to go before the Speaker adjourns the initial debate... At the beginning of the debate, after Mr Cameron had outlined the deal and gave cordance to all those involved, both the leader of the Opposition and the Deputy Leader who spoke third, congratulated the PM on firstly ordering the Leveson Report and then putting forward the motion and bringing this matter to a head...this was echoed by most who spoke thereafter.... One of the most intelligent speeches came from Jacob Rees-Mogg - Con North East Somerset..."May I join in the praise of the PM, because it has become common place in this debate, but for a different reason, not for this Royal Charter, but for accepting the constraints of collective responsibility because I think that PM has fought a valiant battle for the freedom of the press, but unfortunately the Liberal Democrats do not believe in it, and therefore we have the restriction on the freedom of the press that we find with this Royal Charter in this debate, but collective responsibility required that the PM should lead a united government on this and I think he was right to do so, because the alternative was to have the Lib Dems with us in the division lobbies one day and with Labour the next, that is not a Government, that is as I think Palmerstone said "a mere coalition of atoms"...and at the end of his speech in relation to the freedom of the press.... "We see therefore the risk of increasing state power over our media leading not immediately to direct censorship but to a self-censorship that we are already seeing of the press being reluctant to criticise the great and the good ....."and I am reluctant to disagree with my honourable friend the member from Aldershot but Hacked off, I think, is the most disreputable body; I think it used the sad tales of a small number of victims whose bad treatment was often against the law and they used that as the cover for a campaign by celebrities who had disreputable pasts which they did not like being reported" - and then he sat down.... (Lucky I take shorthand eh) Unusually David Cameron is still in the chamber (as is Ed Milliband), so is Clegg although he appears to be camera shy ...the PM has been sitting with pad and pen obviously doing other purposeful work while all MP's who are agendered to speak, do so; this is because he is 'winding' up of the debate.He has now done this (I'm not reporting it word for word here ) ...he thanked all political parties and Ed Milliband smiled and Cleggy frowned - "this has been a genuinely cross party effort"... ...so The Ayes have, the Ayes have it....Clegg went out the front way, and after a late question from a pernickety member on something completely different which bemused the Speaker, but the Prime Minister quickly dealt with, he swiftly went out the backway....leaving the Leader of the House to discuss timetables for further debate and those left to have their say on the Royal Charter... Edited by Mobson, Mar 18 2013, 10:09 PM.
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| Mobson | Mar 19 2013, 08:54 AM Post #208 |
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and the draft Report they are discussing?.....it's 22 pages long and can be seen here... https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/leveson-report-draft-royal-charter-for-proposed-body-to-recognise-press-industry-self-regulator or direct link to pdf document https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/142808/18_March_2013_v6_Draft_Royal_Charter.pdf |
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| madfor4 | Mar 19 2013, 09:34 AM Post #209 |
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.....Hardly the "Stalinist" media control the tabloids have been bemoaning.... |
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| caissier | Mar 19 2013, 11:49 AM Post #210 |
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Gawd ..... what a way to do things. After all the months - desperate 3am text messages .... honestly
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| rumbaba | Mar 19 2013, 12:19 PM Post #211 |
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Everybody desperate to claim 'victory'. It makes no odds if the papers don't sign up anyway. The 'million pound fine' slogan is a load of old tosh and I would bet the ranch against any newspaper ever being fined even half that amount under this proposal. It's all about the politics
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| dai Cottomy | Mar 19 2013, 01:01 PM Post #212 |
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News produced by the chattering classes is being replaced by gossip by the twittering classes |
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| rumbaba | Mar 19 2013, 04:29 PM Post #213 |
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I don't like JRM at all, he stood as the Tory candidate in 1997 in the, largely, working class area of Central Fife (I'm from Fife) and drove around in a Bentley campaigning with his nanny,(although I would have though him too old to have nanny at the time). Given the area he was pretending to want to represent, this was nothing short of insulting. His horrible, sneering, poshness and affected 'young fogeyishness' represents everything I detest. Born into privilege, went to Eton and Oxford,
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| becky sharp | Jul 4 2013, 01:11 PM Post #214 |
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On Channel 4 news last night Revealed: the Rupert Murdoch tape "Incompetent" cops, regrets over his own investigation, promises to protect Sun journalists: a secret recording reveals Rupert Murdoch's real attitudes to the scandal that has engulfed his empire. In public, the man at the helm of News Corporation has been brought to his knees. He told MPs that giving evidence to a Commons select committee was "the most humble day of his life" and was equally self-effacing in front of the Leveson inquiry into press ethics. In private, Channel 4 News can reveal a very different side to Mr Murdoch. A recording from March earlier this year, obtained by investigative website Exaro, shows the 82-year-old as we've never seen him before - raging against the police and claiming that the inquiry into corrupt payments to public officials has been blown out of proportion. "I mean, it's a disgrace. Here we are, two years later, and the cops are totally incompetent," he says. Why are the police behaving in this way? It's the biggest inquiry ever, over next to nothing - Rupert Murdoch The head of a $30bn media empire was speaking to a room full of Sun newspaper journalists - specifically, Channel 4 News understands, those who had been arrested over claims they had paid public officials, including police officers, for information. http://www.channel4.com/news/murdoch-rupert-tape-police-the-sun-journalists |
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| caissier | Jul 4 2013, 03:33 PM Post #215 |
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Roy Greenslade says the tape has been leaked because the journalists affected are very annoyed with Rupert ..... http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2013/jul/04/news-corporation-rupert-murdoch Back-covering crocodile regret from him. He seems always to have thought he can unquestionably do whatever he feels like doing no matter how illegal, immoral, or tasteless. If anyone objects there's something wrong with them. Edited by caissier, Jul 4 2013, 03:41 PM.
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| caissier | Jul 19 2013, 09:56 AM Post #216 |
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A new twist ..... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/exclusive-hacking-coverup-scandal-as-police-refuse-to-name-bluechip-companies-who-used-corrupt-private-investigators-8718049.html "The Serious Organised Crime Agency has refused to disclose the names of blue-chip companies who commissioned corrupt private investigators who broke the law because revealing them would damage the firms’ commercial interests, The Independent has learnt. Sir Ian Andrews, the agency’s chairman, told Parliament that publishing the information could “substantially undermine the financial viability of major organisations by tainting them with public association with criminality” ...... " Oh .... well ..... that's fair enough then They must be some of those 'too big to prosecute' people ...... The Serious Organised Crime Agency is effectively refusing to supply information to the Home Affairs Select Committee. Edited by caissier, Jul 19 2013, 10:02 AM.
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| becky sharp | Jul 19 2013, 10:34 PM Post #217 |
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Scandalous! |
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| becky sharp | Aug 1 2013, 09:02 PM Post #218 |
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Soca chief Sir Ian Andrews quits over undeclared interest in private investigations firm More than 100 companies and celebrities who used rogue investigators may finally be named following investigation by The Independent The chairman of the Serious Organised Crime Agency resigned today after he failed to declare he owned a private company with his wife, who works for a leading private investigations firm. Sir Ian Andrews informed Theresa May, the Home Secretary, that he would leave his position early after weeks of damaging revelations over the crime-fighting body in The Independent. Soca is facing urgent questions over why it failed for years to tackle more than 100 blue-chip clients of corrupt private investigators, including law firms, banks and celebrities Sir Ian was hauled before MPs to explain the agency’s inaction – but failed to declare that his wife Moira was the head lawyer at Good Governance Group (G3), a major international investigations firm. Soca handed over a list of the rogue investigators’ clients to the Home Affairs Select Committee, chaired by Keith Vaz, on condition that the names are not revealed. Mr Vaz has now suggested that the confidentiality will be reviewed: "Sir Ian was part of the decision making process that required that the Home Affairs Select Committee kept the lists that Soca sent us confidential. I shall be writing to his successor to ask if he or she will now review this decision." In a letter to Mr Vaz, the chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, Sir Ian admitted that it was “inexcusable” that he also did not disclose he had recently set up a private business with Ms Andrews, a senior former Whitehall official. “I have no explanation for this other than it was both a genuine and unintentional oversight but it is nonetheless inexcusable: and the responsibility is mine alone,” he wrote. “My original four-year appointment expires at the end of this week and was due to be extended until October to cover the remaining life of Soca. Given the above, and the fact that I have failed to maintain the standard of integrity to be expected of the head of a public body, let alone one charged with law enforcement, I believe that I had no alternative but to offer the Home Secretary my resignation as the Chairman of Soca. “This is a huge disappointment to me personally.” Mr Vaz said: “This is the right decision. Clearly as head of a law enforcement agency it is important that there is full transparency and it is essential that all members of the Soca board also check their own interests.” Sir Ian was behind the decision to classify a list of blue-chip companies who hired corrupt private detectives that hack sensitive information – claiming the disclosure could damage their commercial interests and breach individuals’ human rights. His wife Moira is employed as the head lawyer for Good Governance Group (G3), a global security firm. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/soca-chief-sir-ian-andrews-quits-over-undeclared-interest-in-private-investigations-firm-8742235.html |
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| becky sharp | Aug 23 2013, 01:42 PM Post #219 |
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Rebekah Brooks trial over phone-hacking charges delayed Former News International chief executive, Andy Coulson and six others will appear in court at end of October The trial will now not start until 28 October after Mr Justice Saunders adjourned the case for legal reasons at a hearing in the Old Bailey. Those reasons cannot be reported. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/22/rebekah-brooks-phone-hack-trial-delayed |
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| rumbaba | Aug 23 2013, 03:23 PM Post #220 |
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KIcked into the long grass and what's happening to Press control? The same
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| caissier | Sep 6 2013, 11:09 AM Post #221 |
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Alan Partridge chips in on this matter ......... Alan Partridge North Norfolk Digital Radio Please direct all fan-mail to the below. And don't bother sending any more of those rude pictures because Lynn sorts them out for me now. Alan Partridge; celebrity radio and television presenter, political commentator and occasional philosopher North Norfolk Digital Norfolk Dear semi-informed member of the public, I am writing to warn you not to co-operate with Hacked Off - a group that can be best described as subversive. Apparently they have persuaded a so-called celebrity - but a man with very little of the celebrity "coalface" experience one can only gain in local radio - to give money to their dangerous campaign. They have duped him into promising to double all donations received by Hacked Off. The flaw in their clever plan is that they are totally reliant on dozy members of the public like you to sympathise with their tiresome moans about alleged press abuses. To be frank I don’t have much time for other celebrities anyway, except for the other A-listed ones. But talent, as we are called in the business, should not be exploited by the "soi-disant" “victims of the press” in this utterly... well... transparent and see-through way. So do not give any money to these agitators at Hacked Off. My friend Quentin Letts at the Daily Mail, who I happened to know studied history to full degree level at a University, told me over a half-pint (but in a proper tankard-shaped glass) Butcombe bitter last night, that Hacked Off are exponents of exactly the sort of citizen activism that brought the likes of Vladimir Trotsky to power in Soviet Moscow. Quentin, an educated man – “a man of Letts-ers”, if you will – should be heeded on all matters where he has a theory about a conspiracy. And he has plenty I can tell you. Hacked Off is made up of busy-body victims of press abuse, nosey-parker professors of journalism and pinko-subversive actors who can’t even get their own TV series and who would be better off - in my view - sucking up to the tabloids like I always have. They claim to have "public opinion" on their side. They are dedicated to implementing the report by Lord "Justice" Leveson just because Parliament agrees with it! Since when did the views of the unelected judging benches and of elected "officialdom" count for more than the views of those who bravely own or edit our great British institutions like the News of the World and the Mail on line? Go to their website, and tell them where to stick their Royal Charter. Yours at your service, Alan PS If they get enough abuse from ordinary Englishmen they will get the message that Mr Murdoch and Mr Dacre have our full support in their endeavours. Do not "give generously" just because your donation will be matched by the naïve celebrity stooge they have recruited to their cause. We celebrities deserve to keep our cash where it belongs – safely in an off-shore bank in Guernsey near where the Telegraph owners live. PPSS If like me you are aware of "internet protocols" you will know that it is important that my warning goes "viral'. So please help make this a true "contagion" by 'innoculating" the in-boxes of other people with this message. Why not start by "infecting" the box of your wife or - to be strictly non-sexist – your girlfriend. If enough people catch the "germ" you are spreading then my words can become an "epidemic" of wise counsel, laying low the health of the world's ignorance. PPPSSS People won't see this warning if all they read are the propaganda publications controlled by Hacked Off - like the BBC, Guardian "Wimmin" and the Oxbridge Journal of Media Studies, so please help inform and re-educate fellow Daily Mail and Sun readers by twittering this twitter tweet. Edited by caissier, Nov 1 2013, 02:17 PM.
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| caissier | Nov 1 2013, 02:14 PM Post #222 |
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It's all kicking off. What's the nearest comparison ..... soap opera, p'back blockbuster, Nordic political series, the Dreyfus Affair, couldn't make it up Hollywood film pitch .... ??
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| Mobson | Jun 26 2014, 01:02 PM Post #223 |
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Well, well, it seems our National Theatre is 'cashing in' on the subject of phone hacking....It comes after former News of the World editor Andy Coulson was found guilty of conspiracy to hack phones and Ex-News International chief Rebekah Brooks was cleared of all charges after the eight-month Old Bailey trial. The play, entitled Great Britain, is written by Richard Bean and directed by the National's director, Sir Nicholas Hytner... and explores the relationship between press, politicians and police, none of whom emerge very well, said Bean. "One of the reasons I wanted to write this play is to show that those three institutions are essentially in bed with each other and this threatens democracy. It is basically 20 people talk to 20 people who talk to 20 people, and that is the way the country is being run." Bean, whose previous plays for the National include the work England People Very Nice and the award-winning One Man, Two Guvnors which went to the West End and Broadway, said he had been spurred to write the play because of anger over incidents such as the case of Christopher Jefferies, the landlord who, in 2010, was more or less accused by the tabloids of the murder of 25-year-old Joanna Yeates in Bristol. "I can only write plays if I get angry about something, and that whole case made me insane with fury." While there will be a Tory prime minister, called Jonathan Whey (played by Rupert Vansittart), Hytner stressed the characters were not reflecting known people. The National has had newspaper journalists and editors attend rehearsals, and they had seemed happy about the portrayal, added Bean. "I think the word sympathetic has been used." Hytner added: "Both of us have a kind of gut sympathy for good old-fashioned tabloid journalism, for entertaining tabloid journalism and for the kind of tabloid journalists who go out and find proper stories. It is not hard to construct an argument that at certain times certain newspapers have lost sight of what they, at their best, can and should be doing." Phone hacking, MPs' expenses and the dangerously close relationship between the press, politicians and police, will all be explored in a new political satire due to open at the National Theatre's Lyttleton on Monday without previews, the reason being that they wanted "to get it open as quickly as possible" said Hytner, although, he added, there would be some small dress rehearsals with an invited audience. I'm going to the first of these this evening... Billie Piper stars as a young, ambitious, tabloid news editor in a play that was due to have opened more than a week ago but was delayed on legal advice until the verdicts were reached in the phone hacking trials....The play will run until 23 August... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-28014304 http://www.theguardian.com/stage/2014/jun/25/national-theatre-phone-hacking-satire-hytner-billie-piper Edited by Mobson, Jun 27 2014, 07:58 AM.
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| Mobson | Jun 30 2014, 11:59 AM Post #224 |
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I went yesterday for the second time to see the Sunday matinee of the National's play Great Britain which officially opens this evening on the same day that the announcement comes that there's going to be a hacking retrial over corrupt payments...Former NoW journalists Andy Coulson and Clive Goodman are to face a retrial on a charge they bought royal telephone directories from police officers. Edited by Mobson, Jun 30 2014, 01:38 PM.
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| dai Cottomy | Jul 1 2014, 06:15 PM Post #225 |
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When can we expect the trial of the police officers? |
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| Mobson | Jul 1 2014, 06:19 PM Post #226 |
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I don't think it's been written yet
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) over this ..
...the PM has been sitting with pad and pen obviously doing other purposeful work
while all MP's who are agendered to speak, do so; this is because he is 'winding' up of the debate.

4:44 PM Jul 13