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Prog Rock; What qualifies?
Topic Started: Oct 20 2011, 05:46 PM (230 Views)
rumbaba
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I bought a CD for my friend Gabor in Budapest. He likes that sort of thing, he's very 70s. It's called 'Prog Rocks!'. However, although there are bands I expected to see (Hatfield and the North, Gong, Tangerine Dream, The Nice, Van Der Graff Generator, Gentle Giant), there are bands I don't consider 'prog' and some I have never actually heard of.

Since when was Roxy Music, Hawkwind or ELO 'prog rock'? And who the hell are; Pallas, Oceansize, Eloy, Frost, The Flower Kings, Beardfish, The Tangent or (I kid you not) .....'and you will know us by the trail of dead'?
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rumbaba
Oct 20 2011, 05:46 PM
And who the hell are; Pallas, Oceansize, Eloy, Frost, The Flower Kings, Beardfish, The Tangent or (I kid you not) .....'and you will know us by the trail of dead'?
Pass!

But seeing as we're talking PR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_EYU75uhKk

:)
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Oh yes, the Genesis single <ok> . Everyone used to put the B side on jukeboxes (Twilight Alehouse), I think because it was quite long and represented value for money. I saw them when they were supporting Lindesfarne (Foxtrot tour). It's hard to believe, after the post-Gabriel blancmange, but they were a storming live act . The 'Lamb lies down' tour was amazing too (saw them in Edinburgh both times).
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Many years ago as a youth I listened to ‘King Crimson’ LPs on a friend’s gramophone. For some reason I had an inexplicable desire to hear these again and play ‘cello alongside Bruford et. al. Downloaded ‘Lizardfor free (ah - joy of the interweb machine) and pressed ‘Play’ expectantly.

What a massive disappointment!

Has anybody else listened to their old favourite records this millennia? RUMBABA Rumbaba - be careful too, it may end in tears.

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Norm Deplume
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I played some of my George Formby and Nellie Melba 78s!!!!!!!
I am not that proud to admit it but I have a Des O'Connor LP from around the late 50s or so... "Des O'Connor Sings Half A Sixpence"
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rumbaba
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I don't really have any 'prog' albums, I liked Genesis as a live act when Peter Gabriel was in the band - very theatrical.

'Hot Rats' still sounds as good as it did when I bought it in 1969 though. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKlAIhuXRLE
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Hugh Mosby-Joaquin
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What a massive disappointment!

I agree, and indeed agree with regard to King Crimson. I have listened (and looked via You-tube) recently to much that I was mad keen on in the 1970s, particularly the 'progressive underground' genre. Most of it, I have to say, disappoints now. But I suppose I am trying to hear an era that I was part of, but only the soundtrack remains. So the excitement of putting an LP on a turntable and hoping your teenage chums will be impressed by 'Ten Years After', the sitting around bedrooms (rarely, sadly with members of the opposite sex; progressive rock was a boys' thing), the sauntering to school with 'Grateful Dead' under your arm, the discussions in the playground about whether Stan Webb was a better guitarist than Eric Clapton, the teasing apart for inner meaning of 'Yes' lyrics, the eye-boggling psychedelia of the Cream LP cover and the naughty one with glossy naked ladies (fwaaar!) from Jimi Hendrix.
All part of an age, my age and the age.
Some excitement remains. I am still happy to listen to John Hiseman's Colliseum, and The Who and Led Zeppelin were rarely equalled for sheer gutsy power.
And Captain Beefheart (RIP) will never die...
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Yes, the Captain, without equal <ok>
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For most of the 70s groups wouldn't play Belfast; things only really changed with punk.
So, around '76, my older brother (who was a bit of a prog rocker) dragged me along to see a band I'd never heard of...
Gong.

Gong!!!

It wasn't "tune in and drop out"; it was "tune out and nod off".
I was approaching 15; I wanted to see David Bowie!

But...
Innit funny how these things work out? These days I happily listen to all sorts of avant-garde jazz that, in truth, ain't that far removed from the likes of Gong and the prog-rockers.

A few nights ago (and this is what put this thought into my head) I was grooving along to Sun Ra's "Somewhere There" piece. During the five minute (yes!) drum solo, I remembered that bands like Gong and the others weren't too averse to the odd drum solo...

A current interest of mine is The Necks; a brilliant avant-garde outfit from Australia.
When Danny hears them, he says to me -
"What's this druggy rubbish?"

(That's what a mortgage and a family does to even an old prog-head...)
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