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The New Elizabethans
Topic Started: Jun 13 2012, 12:38 PM (993 Views)
rumbaba
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/the-new-elizabethans/

I heard some of programmes 2 and 3 and thought they were quite interesting. Is anybody else listening to this?

There is a pub called 'The Elizabethan' near my Sister's house (everyone seems to call is 'The Lizzie'), which is pretty dire but we had something to eat in there one evening and my wife got food poisoning. The word 'Elizabethan' conjures up visions of 'The Lizzie' for me :(
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In the 50s there were efforts to create an impression of a new Elizabethan age - a jolly bluff Olde Englande spirit, actually a complacent fantasy, for some reason, for me exemplified by the Mayflower car (actually I've just realised the C16/17th link <laugh> )

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..... and I think this is an attempt to do something similar now ....... all's well in the new Britain of satisfactory national happiness quotients and keeping up appearance that all is for the best.

I've just heard the programme about Graham Greene. I would have thought he was more of the 30s and 40s.
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OMG! My grandmother's brother, Uncle Jack, who lived in Bicester, Oxon, had one of those cars - he ran a one-man chauffeur business... and kept it in pristine condition...I'm gonna see if I can get hold of a family picture of it....

pics and video clips of one owner called Merv:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqDcCJsubO4
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There was something about those cars which disturbed me when I was very small. They look like a limousine made by Austin with vague Rolls-Royce stylings - the angles of the bodywork perhaps.
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On late 1970s British Airways flights between the U.K and U.S.A, passengers could opt for the “Elizabethan Service”, featuring “Capon Puddynge after Mistress Duffield’s Way," prepared from capon chickens minced and blended with ground pork, butter, chopped figs, ginger and cinammon. Travellers could also enjoy the “Posset - Sir Francis' digestif" – a hot beverage of milk flavoured with spices and fortified with liqueur.

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There was also an airliner called the Elizabethan - by BEA. (Otherwise an Airspeed Ambassador)

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..... a mock Tudor-styled railway buffet carriage

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caissier
Jun 14 2012, 04:25 AM
There was also an airliner called the Elizabethan - by BEA. (Otherwise an Airspeed Ambassador)

Yes; unfortunately, this was the aircraft involved in the Munich air disaster of 1958, in which many of the Manchester United football team were killed.
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caissier
Jun 13 2012, 03:35 PM
There was something about those cars which disturbed me when I was very small. They look like a limousine made by Austin with vague Rolls-Royce stylings - the angles of the bodywork perhaps.

Coming back from Beating Retreat in Whitehall last night, I was walking up Duke Street and saw a smart black & cream vintage car turning into the Cavendish hotel's underground car park..swiftly followed by another...I'm sure they were the very exact car we are talking about! The Mayflower! Both had M reg plates - 3 letters, 3 numbers. It was the squareness and particularly the boot with the two upturned chrome handles that made me look twice!
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I've caught a few of these, George Best today and Germain Greer next. It's been interesting.
Edited by rumbaba, Jul 20 2012, 12:55 PM.
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I've listened to a few of these ....Edmund Hillary,Graham Greene and the one about The Beatles amongst them ... :D thanks for mentioning the George Best,rum ...I will give that a listen <ok>
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I missed the Beatles but I think they are all available on iplayer

A good quote from George - 'I gave up women and drink once in the 80s...............it was the worst 20 minutes of my life'

Edited by rumbaba, Jul 20 2012, 01:09 PM.
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rumbaba
Jul 20 2012, 01:06 PM
I missed the Beatles but I think they are all available on iplayer
I've just remembered it was Lennon/McCartney not The Beatles...
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rumbaba
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Well, in a sense, Lennon and McCartney were The Beatles.
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You've gotta have George and Ringo to complete the name.... <magic>
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All 60 programmes in the series are available as a podcast to download and keep for posterity...i've subscribed at the beginning and they just keep coming....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/tne

Have recently enjoyed Margot Fonteyn, Peter Hall, Terence Conran and Basil D'Olivera......
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rumbaba
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I'm not keeping them for posterity: what's posterity ever done for me?
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Mobson
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dunno! have you ever thought of asking it?
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rumbaba
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David Hockney today. It's been quite a wide ranging choice, I wonder if Jim Naughtie chose them. I've never been a great fan of DH or his work but Mrs R and her pals very much enjoyed his recent exhibition. He is very annoying and unreasonable about the smoking ban, I think he has been used to getting his own way since he was quite young and is not especially bothered about consideration for others.
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