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Rolling Stones; Films across the BBC
Topic Started: Nov 25 2012, 10:29 PM (442 Views)
Mobson
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Not a fervent fan of the Rolling Stones, although in retrospect, I can see the fascination with them as a band and individually....and they are extremely relevant in the UK hall of music fame and very irrelevant when they have been rumbled over some drug or relationship scandal! Rumbaba and The Emoticons

Did anyone see the Stones films last night spread over the BBC channels broadcast as part of their 50 year collaboration.

On BBC2, after part 2 of "Crossfire Hurricane" charting the band's fifty year career, there was a film called 'The Rolling Stones at the BBC' with a selection of performances from the archives (in one George Best was in the studio audience dancing in a plain crew neck jumper with pretty girl)....then a repeat of a pretty straight and extremely civilised interview conducted by Andrew Graham-Dixon with Keith Richards in New York for The Culture Show in 2010 brought about no doubt by the release of Keith's memoirs (amazing he can remember anything!)....or can play anything!

Over on BBC4 there was a really cool and slightly lengthy film: Live At the Checkerboard Lounge -featuring Muddy Waters and the Stones...that really was worth watching....the guitar playing was exemplary.... <mohawkguitarist>

Back to BBC2: Tonight at 11pm there's a film called 'The Rolling Stones - Charlie Is My Darling' a documentary by Peter Whitehead. Recorded during their 1965 Irish tour. It contains tremendous live footage, performances that seem remarkably dangerous in a world in which the Catholic Standard is on the newsstands and a priest turns up in the front row of one show. Fans will enjoy Jagger & Keith Richards jokingly ripping through Beatles numbers, but this film is most affecting as the permanent record of a moment of thrilling possibility..

As a nicely spoken Mick says at the start..."One is brought up to think that pop music is a very ephemeral thing. When we first made a record and got it in the charts, we thought "Well good we'll probably be around for a year, maybe a year and a half." ....

Fifty years on....tonight they're back on tour again in front of thousands of fans at the O2, the first of two gigs there this week. <whistles>

Sorry no links tonight....maybe tomorrow mobs.... ;)
Edited by Mobson, Nov 27 2012, 05:32 PM.
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Watching Sky at 4.20am this morning, Ian Botham and David Lloyd on cricket commentary: Botham says he was at the O2 last night to see the Stone's concert. "Too late for you Bumble" said he....Bumble replies "Yeah could they do a matinee?" - Botham replies that'll be too early for Keith Richards. Bumble says.."yes I love what Keith usually says at a concert... "It's nice to be here - it's nice to be anywhere". Last song played....Jumping Jack Flash! Rumbaba and The Emoticons
Edited by Mobson, Nov 26 2012, 01:10 PM.
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I shouldn't say this in the current climate, but... do they still have groupies? Could you kill two Stones with one bird?

Could this be the Stones in 2020?


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waiting4atickle
Nov 26 2012, 11:43 AM

I shouldn't say this in the current climate, but... do they still have groupies? Could you kill two Stones with one bird?

Could this be the Stones in 2020?


<laugh> <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>
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madfor4
Nov 26 2012, 01:02 PM
waiting4atickle
Nov 26 2012, 11:43 AM

I shouldn't say this in the current climate, but... do they still have groupies? Could you kill two Stones with one bird?



That stone is probably best left unturned.
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I had the chance to see them on the 'Goat's head soup' tour in 1973(?) but didn't take the opportunity - I can't really be bothered to see them now, certainly not at £950 a pop.
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They never appealled to me. (and I do believe, neither did I, to them)
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They didn't interest me that much - a bit one-tracky and sybaritically Euro-trashy I thought.

I liked We Love You and Dandelion and my favourite song was Memo to Turner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAPgDs30eq8
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My favourite Stones album is 'Stripped', which is live and not completely 'unplugged' but very much stripped down to basics and recorded in small venues. Some good songs 'cherry picked' from their back catalogue: great versions of 'Dead Flowers' and 'Let it Bleed'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stripped_(The_Rolling_Stones_album)

'Memo from Turner' is from the film 'Performance' I think. It's been on TV a few times but is no great shakes as a movie: good track but not a Stones track really, it's Jagger solo, with Ry Cooder on slide guitar.
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rumbaba
Nov 27 2012, 11:25 AM

'Memo from Turner' is from the film 'Performance' I think. It's been on TV a few times but is no great shakes as a movie: good track but not a Stones track really, it's Jagger solo, with Ry Cooder on slide guitar.
Ahaaaa ...... that's news rum.

I just feel they weren't too interested in going outside familiar territory.

Some of the very well-known tracks - Brown Sugar / Jumpin'Jack - sound quite tired to me.

Otoh their latest performance has had raves and amazement at what Mick is still doing, but I guess he's had a fantastic life-long fitness routine.
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Mick Jagger 'starrred' in the fim 'Performance', he played Turner. I'm a bit surprised you know the song but not the movie, Caiss. I thought you were a bit of a movie buff :)


Sorry but I can't post the 'Performance' link, it has a problem with the ) on the end for some reason - I've tried it three times now :(
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Ry Cooder had a big falling out with The Stones that lasted for years because it was his fabulous guitar riff that transformed Honky Tonk Women from an 'ok' song to the great track it is but he never got any credit for it (listen to 'Country Honk' from 'Let it bleed' to get an idea of the difference it made). Mind you, there were riffs that Bill Wyman and Brian Jones came up with that ended up in famous 'Jagger Richards' compositions, with no credit to either of them. Interesting to see Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor guesting at the O2 on a couple of numbers. Mick is a great player but he was in the right place at the wrong time.

I saw some clips from the O2 and Mick looked like someone doing a parody of Mick. I could never really take his stage act seriously, he looks ridiculous. Charlie is Charlie , Ronnie Wood was never a real 'Stone' for me and Keef, well, Keef IS the Rolling Stones. On their last tour, some journalist said he looked like a giant iguana that has learned to walk on its hind legs and play the guitar. They haven't written a decent song for more than 30 years but who cares when you have their back catalogue to choose from? RUMBABA
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Ah, I did know it came from Performance ..... which I tried to watch, expecting cool 60s cult-ness but it didn't do much for me. Having Mick in it felt a bit like Bob Dylan in that Billy the Kid film ..... unnecessary and pointless. I find those 60s films disappointing now - Blow Up included
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They seem to treat each other in ambivalent ways. I thought Brian Jones was the guiding spirit in the early days. People say nice things about Keith. I've got his big autobiography waiting to be read ...... <read> must have a go.
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I've been reading Keef's autobiog since it came out but only got part way through - not that's it's bad, just hardback and too big/heavy to read on the train, so I didn't make much progress. It was actually pretty good, as I recall, but I'll probably have to start from the begining again. :(
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Nov 25 2012, 10:29 PM
a repeat of a pretty straight and extremely civilised interview conducted by Andrew Graham-Dixon with Keith Richards in New York for The Culture Show in 2010 brought about no doubt by the release of Keith's memoirs (amazing he can remember anything!)....or can play anything!
Here's the link to the interview I mention with Andrew Graham-Dixon in 2010 re: Keef's book - just look at those gnarled hands affected by age, osteoarthritis and nobbled with Heberden's nodes - it's a wonder he can still play guitar! ... One BIG redeeming feature - He Loves His Mum Doris! :wub:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vll85/The_Culture_Show_2010_2011_Keith_Richards_A_Culture_Show_Special/

Edited by Mobson, Nov 27 2012, 05:43 PM.
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Nov 27 2012, 04:25 PM
I've been reading Keef's autobiog since it came out but only got part way through - not that's it's bad, just hardback and too big/heavy to read on the train, so I didn't make much progress. It was actually pretty good, as I recall, but I'll probably have to start from the begining again. :(
<ok> I've downloaded Keef's bio via i-tunes to read once I've finished Rod Stewart's bio which actually makes pretty good reading....
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I agree that "Blow Up" is a stinker; but methinks "Performance" is a true gem.
Like "The Servant", "Get Carter" and "The Wicker Man", it's one of those brilliant Brit "one-off" fillums.

Once the Stones developed beyond their early blues-by-numbers routine, they provided an essential soundtrack to the second half of the 60s:
"Satisfaction", "Gimme Shelter", "Street Fighting Man", "Sympathy For The Devil"...

They've been irrelevant since the mid-70s; but when they really mattered...
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I usually bump into Mick in ~Hatchards~ Piccadilly at Christmas time when he's there to select his seasonal books ...for presents? He certainly makes for one charasmatic figure among the many fact and fiction bookshelves....
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