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Topic Started: Feb 11 2013, 01:12 PM (5,519 Views)
Lurkalot

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbarchers/NF2693943?thread=8413872

I rejoined the bbc boards last week and this happens. I suppose it was bound to happen ... <dalek>

I suppose an opportunity to drum up business this neck of the woods ..

(where's emailheaven when we need him? <laugh> )
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rumbaba
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I never understood why one programme was allowed to continue with a plethora of boards when the main Radio 4 board closed down.

Prepare yourself Caissier, opportunity or threat? :)
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Although I haven't had a look in there since we (C & I) posted up about Hyper and our separation ...I am very surprised at this news far more shocking to me than Pope resignations!!!!
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rumbaba
Feb 11 2013, 01:23 PM
I never understood why one programme was allowed to continue with a plethora of boards when the main Radio 4 board closed down.
It ended up with the refugees from radio 2 and radio 5 as well and ofcourse other boards too.
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Lurkalot
Feb 11 2013, 01:12 PM
(where's emailheaven when we need him? <laugh> )
You are of course joking <wink>
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The Archers m/b is, was, law unto itself...dedicated to that subject alone!
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Feb 11 2013, 01:33 PM
You are of course joking <wink>
<whistles> <whistles> <whistles>

i've never forgiven him for the way he closed the other board.

our mate is here nowadays i think in his quest for global dormination ..

https://twitter.com/mapheaven
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Strangely enough I was going to have a look in at the m/b after I heard that the long silent Clarrie was being reincarnated for William's birthday...and I was thinking of posting same on our own now very underused thread; last post over a year ago in January 2012,so we're not exactly avid fans here are we? <wink> .
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I feel sorry for the Mustardlanders who have built up a community over the years... :(
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becky sharp
Feb 11 2013, 04:14 PM
I feel sorry for the Mustardlanders who have built up a community over the years... :(
Yeah! ..... dead right, Becky. It is sad..

A successful settled community of people happily chatting to each other - a good thing ...... doesn't cut any proverbial with the Beeb though.

I think they have fall-back messageboards prepared for this eventuality - such as Peet's Place, I think. I did have a foray there recently and there were some sensible people ie not TA obssessives, prepared to be quite critical.

..... but it has always been a frantic board. I'm not sure in an influx here would work; I can't quite imagine it in practice, but - whatdya think, send them an invite?
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Feb 11 2013, 06:42 PM
I'm not sure in an influx here would work; I can't quite imagine it in practice, but - whatdya think, send them an invite?
I've no problems with the orignal mustardlanders, it's the minority from some of the other boards (fascists) who have sought refugee on The archers board and i know who they are. I noticed one of my nemesis is on pre-mod still. <laugh>

i'm sure most of them will end up on peet's board but no harm in offering sanctuary to fellow posters here as a choice as this is a radio 4 board - support your fellow posters and all that! But that's my view, I'm here today, probably gone tomorrow!
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Feb 11 2013, 06:42 PM
I'm not sure in an influx here would work

I'm not sure it would either, caissier: it didn't take much traffic to bring Mornington Crescent to a halt and those Mustardlanders generate far more than that, I think. And if they already have fall-back MBs, it's probably not helpful to offer them yet another option - that would just increase the chances of fragmentation, wouldn't it?

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Well, I left an expression of sympathy and a link to here to reassure them that a replacement can be set up but I think a lot, who all know each other, are migrating to 'peet's place'.
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Well, I left an expression of sympathy and a link to here to reassure them that replacements can be set up but I think a lot, who all know each other, are migrating to 'peet's place' ...... http://www.paranormal.org.uk/mustardland/index.php?sid=b3d61c86d5ae166e502f270632534b4d

When I invited MLers to join up here some time ago someone said words to the effect, "Yes, but you all hate The Archers!"
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The closure of the boards has made the papers ....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9866695/Archers-fans-left-furious-as-BBC-censors-criticism-of-storylines.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/archers-fans-angry-closure-mustardland-1706152

Will there be a change of heart ??? <whistles>
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Feb 13 2013, 01:31 PM
Will there be a change of heart ??? <whistles>
strength in numbers and all that but i think they can continue to shout til the cows come home, ain't going to be a u-turn unless money is found to run it from somewhere else.
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"Don't Give Up 'cause you have friends ...sing Mustardlanders sing <whistles> ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVaK24LIDko
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Lurkalot

Doomed! I say doomed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McCDWYgVyps

# The last post
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'The Bull' has nothing to do with the Archers, I never understood how they got away with that when all the other boards were closed down.
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Well now they haven't ....
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That's true but it's not really the point I was making: never mind :(
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Lurkalot

Keri Davies one of the big wigs with the archers had quite an influence in keeping the archers board open. it had no smileys and different timings to the rest of bbc boards. moderation was lax as well.
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Feb 13 2013, 03:52 PM
'The Bull' has nothing to do with the Archers, I never understood how they got away with that when all the other boards were closed down.

They claimed it made sense to have an 'off topic' board because it made keeping the other boards in line so much easier. Oddly, the BBC didn't try to apply the same principle to the other boards they cut.

Once Points of View is closed (and that seems far less like an impossibility now), Nick Reynolds will finally have his own way, with sodding blogs in the ascendant.

Edited by Joe K, Feb 14 2013, 05:01 AM.
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Points of View is much better hosted now by Peta, who interacts with posters in a very positive and friendly way. It's a pity the R4 board wasn't run like that. There is a good sense of self-discipline there as well. Peta says mbs do, in fact, cost lots of money so the cash-strapped Beeb must be asking if it's worth it.

One of the criteria for closing is whether the forum contributes to 'editorial content'. POV posts do but very often in negative ways. MLers are convinced criticism of recent story-lines is the reason for closing Discuss the Archers - out of pique. Maybe but I'd guess it's the money. As long as there's a POV programme the mb must stand a reasonable chance of survival, though I suppose they might imagine they can get enough brief comments from silly Twitter to make do.

Being able to point to other forums on the internet makes it easier to close Beeb boards but there isn't that sense of talking to BBC programmes and people.
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Lurkalot
Feb 13 2013, 04:26 PM
Keri Davies one of the big wigs with the archers had quite an influence in keeping the archers board open. it had no smileys and different timings to the rest of bbc boards. moderation was lax as well.
Is Keri Davies no longer around? It's hard to guess what goes on behind the scenes. Every so often you see hints dropped / 'the word is .... ' snippets, as though the publically-owned BBC is the secretive blooming Vatican. How much influence does Vanessa Whitburn have. She seems pretty moody and was on a Sabbatical recently. I saw a play she directed once and that was relentlessly glum.
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Keri Davies, writer, producer, dj, is still around...lives in Birmingham...he "mainly works for the BBC".. is a scriptwriter on the Archers team and in fact is responsible for this week's episodes, saying I loved wriritng Valentine's day (today) in particular.
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Lurkalot

Peta has been around from Douglas Adams' company which bbc took over the software for their messageboards. peta is very commited and this was clear from outset. I had a lot to do with her in Points Askew board and replied to alot of my posts/questions.

Keri has been sidelined from the archers board in favour of tayler but keri does do blogs/twitter. I don't think he is in favour of messageboards closing. he did partake in their various meets.
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Feb 14 2013, 08:53 AM
Keri Davies, writer, producer, dj, is still around...lives in Birmingham...he "mainly works for the BBC".. is a scriptwriter on the Archers team and in fact is responsible for this week's episodes, saying I loved writing Valentine's day (today) in particular..
When he was asked on twitter by a fan "how could you be a party to the death of ML?" ... he replied "I'm afraid that in the end the financial case was too strong."
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I had forgotten The Archers message-board was still in existence. Since the BBC in its never-ending stupidity closed all the other boards, this was left like one remaining terraced house in a rubble-strewn street after the wrecking-ball had done its work. "we're not budgin'!"
It stood its ground as an oddity from times past. Closing it is not a vote-winner, really; but what care the BBC of such matters?
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This is something we should watch out for.
These MBs are paid for by the advertisers.
If enough folk aren't looking at them, the advertisers will withdraw their hern.
We need to persuade more folks to get logged in on here.
Otherwise, we could be doomed.
See what I mean?
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Lurkalot

yeah we don't get anything for free these days!

i'm getting littlewoods advert flashing at me at moment.
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Hugh Jampton
Feb 14 2013, 08:41 PM
This is something we should watch out for.
These MBs are paid for by the advertisers.
If enough folk aren't looking at them, the advertisers will withdraw their hern.
We need to persuade more folks to get logged in on here.
Otherwise, we could be doomed.
See what I mean?
<steam> That's Utter Balderdash Hugh! ...isn't it Caiss? ...since you post regularly under several different guises, on a m/b since 2009, that has less members than here, you should know better than scaremonger... <doh> in any event what do you propose we do to persuade more folks to 'get logged in here'... <erm>



...and why do you use the word hern - it makes no sense!!!
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There are lots of zetaboards and the ads are spread out across all of them so I don't think traffic for a certain one matters. Actually the number of posts here is not bad ..... 61,000 in under two years, but I imagine it's 'views' which are more important. There are 'guests' looking in all the time. Any mentions of a topical subject can show up in somebody's Google search, and they might spend some time reading a thread or two.
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I know for a fact that things we discuss here are written about elsewhere and our facts, ideas and opinions copied by others...nothing sinister or harmful, it is the way of things...as for here, I think we are fine!
Edited by Mobson, Feb 14 2013, 10:16 PM.
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In terms of the number of posts, the Palace of Sin is rather more active than this board - or at least it used to be: seems quieter of late, perhaps on account of a number of defections - and it certainly seems to attract more 'guest' viewings: must be all those people googling "sin".

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Well I think it has members who duplicate or triplicate; it lists 60+ members, but who cares really we are not in competition are we. <doh> We do seem to have more guests looking in these days...
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It's the number of active members that matters, Mobs: the majority here are inactive - and a lot of them are kitchen equipment sellers. <laugh>

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No they're not! ...they've been deleted! Anyway whose side are you on! <wink>
Edited by Mobson, Feb 14 2013, 11:46 PM.
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Feb 14 2013, 11:12 PM

It's the number of active members that matters, Mobs: the majority here are inactive - and a lot of them are kitchen equipment sellers. <laugh>

I do try to locate and swat the kitchen-sellers ticks (gotcha! <angrytennisplayer> ) ...... <wink>
Edited by caissier, Feb 15 2013, 01:46 AM.
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Feb 14 2013, 07:34 AM
Points of View is much better hosted now by Peta, who interacts with posters in a very positive and friendly way. It's a pity the R4 board wasn't run like that. There is a good sense of self-discipline there as well. Peta says mbs do, in fact, cost lots of money so the cash-strapped Beeb must be asking if it's worth it.

One of the criteria for closing is whether the forum contributes to 'editorial content'. POV posts do but very often in negative ways. MLers are convinced criticism of recent story-lines is the reason for closing Discuss the Archers - out of pique. Maybe but I'd guess it's the money. As long as there's a POV programme the mb must stand a reasonable chance of survival, though I suppose they might imagine they can get enough brief comments from silly Twitter to make do.

Being able to point to other forums on the internet makes it easier to close Beeb boards but there isn't that sense of talking to BBC programmes and people.

Peta's chief occupation is to sniff around trying to establish if any of the more troublesome posters (that is, the ones who ask the awkward questions only those long familiar with BBC moderation tend to ask) are 'returning banned users'. It's a shitty occupation that tends to suit shitty people. The kind of people Tempero employs.

The reason the boards are closing is that BBC management know everything is going tits up, and the les opportunity the public have to discuss that in public, the better. Of course, that's just one guy's opinion <whistles>
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Feb 15 2013, 01:45 AM
waiting4atickle
Feb 14 2013, 11:12 PM

It's the number of active members that matters, Mobs: the majority here are inactive - and a lot of them are kitchen equipment sellers. <laugh>

I do try to locate and swat the kitchen-sellers ticks (gotcha! <angrytennisplayer> ) ...... <wink>
Just spotted one Caiss - swat away! <angrytennisplayer> <laugh>
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Mobson
Feb 14 2013, 10:14 PM
I know for a fact that things we discuss here are written about elsewhere and our facts, ideas and opinions copied by others...nothing sinister or harmful, it is the way of things...
Do tell where,Mobs....I'd like to have a look :unsure:

The Telegraph has started a forum for the Mustardlanders


Welcome to a new home for fans of The Archers!

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/groups/the-archers-messageboard/forum/topic/welcome/
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It might take some effort but will try to dig a few out some time - have to go off to Kent right now - in a rush after watching the 'our boys' win spectacularly in the T20 cricket over in NZ - so clever of them to do it record time!

As for the Telegraph - <ok> good one for the newspaper, after all their circulation has dropped off over time, like all of their competitors, and anything any newspaper can do to bolster readership must be accomplished! <applause>
Edited by Mobson, Feb 15 2013, 09:57 AM.
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Feb 15 2013, 08:20 AM
caissier
Feb 15 2013, 01:45 AM
waiting4atickle
Feb 14 2013, 11:12 PM

It's the number of active members that matters, Mobs: the majority here are inactive - and a lot of them are kitchen equipment sellers. <laugh>

I do try to locate and swat the kitchen-sellers ticks (gotcha! <angrytennisplayer> ) ...... <wink>
Just spotted one Caiss - swat away! <angrytennisplayer> <laugh>
Who's that Mobs??
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Mobson
Feb 14 2013, 08:57 PM
Hugh Jampton
Feb 14 2013, 08:41 PM
This is something we should watch out for.
These MBs are paid for by the advertisers.
If enough folk aren't looking at them, the advertisers will withdraw their hern.
We need to persuade more folks to get logged in on here.
Otherwise, we could be doomed.
See what I mean?
<steam> That's Utter Balderdash Hugh! ...isn't it Caiss? ...since you post regularly under several different guises, on a m/b since 2009, that has less members than here, you should know better than scaremonger... <doh> in any event what do you propose we do to persuade more folks to 'get logged in here'... <erm>



...and why do you use the word hern - it makes no sense!!!
Tell them all that I'm here :$
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There's a petition to sign

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/454/969/491/stop-the-closure-of-the-archers-message-board/#sign
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Hugh Jampton
Feb 15 2013, 10:56 AM
Mobson
Feb 14 2013, 08:57 PM
Hugh Jampton
Feb 14 2013, 08:41 PM
This is something we should watch out for.
These MBs are paid for by the advertisers.
If enough folk aren't looking at them, the advertisers will withdraw their hern.
We need to persuade more folks to get logged in on here.
Otherwise, we could be doomed.
See what I mean?
<steam> That's Utter Balderdash Hugh! ...isn't it Caiss? ...since you post regularly under several different guises, on a m/b since 2009, that has less members than here, you should know better than scaremonger... <doh> in any event what do you propose we do to persuade more folks to 'get logged in here'... <erm>



...and why do you use the word hern - it makes no sense!!!
Tell them all that I'm here :$
We should be careful about releasing that information, Hugh ....

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(some of those people are going to be kitchen-sellers ... )
Edited by caissier, Feb 15 2013, 12:47 PM.
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Lurkalot

i charge people to be my friends on facebook, it's the only way i can control the my workloads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV8JFj17AtY <harharhar>

peace and love!
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Ringo was the surly teddy-boy one.
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Who was it that old Tom married?
I've forgotten her name.
I think she was a barmaid at The Bull :(
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ppmdvXsMBE

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Thanks, Tick. That's who it was.

Do you remember how she used to say, ' Ooh Tooooom'?
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Are they coming or going, Caiss?
Happen you couldn't cope with all that lot coming at one time.
So it might be better to keep it dark that I'm here.
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Feb 15 2013, 08:38 PM
Do you remember how she used to say, ' Ooh Tooooom'?

It's the only thing I do remember her saying.

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Mobson
Feb 14 2013, 11:45 PM
No they're not! ...they've been deleted! Anyway whose side are you on! <wink>

I'm not on anyone's side, Mobs - as you say, we're not in competition. Personally, I find all message boards a pale shadow of BBC MC RBQ - a thread which, in its heyday, clocked up more posts per day than this board or Sin's.

I know you've been swatting the spam, caissier - although there's some on the General Discussion forum just now - but I'm not sure you've been swatting the spammers: I think their names still appear in the list of members.

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The kitchen sellers are my loyalist members, I have to keep them sweet...

http://s11.zetaboards.com/Alt_R4_boards/index/
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Feb 16 2013, 12:42 AM
Mobson
Feb 14 2013, 11:45 PM
No they're not! ...they've been deleted! Anyway whose side are you on! <wink>

I'm not on anyone's side, Mobs - as you say, we're not in competition. Personally, I find all message boards a pale shadow of BBC MC RBQ - a thread which, in its heyday, clocked up more posts per day than this board or Sin's.

I know you've been swatting the spam, caissier - although there's some on the General Discussion forum just now - but I'm not sure you've been swatting the spammers: I think their names still appear in the list of members.

I have a trawl every so often ticks and check out 'new members'. I ban the ip addresses but the user name might still be on the members list
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Lurkalot

i think kitchen sellers are the 'bread and butter' for some boards. <laugh>
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Mobson
Feb 15 2013, 09:32 AM
It might take some effort but will try to dig a few out some time
Was that in answer to my asking for a link,Mobs, to the forum you were talking about? (The Palace Of Sin?)

If yes have you the link/s,now?
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Feb 14 2013, 10:14 PM
I know for a fact that things we discuss here are written about elsewhere and our facts, ideas and opinions copied by others...nothing sinister or harmful, it is the way of things...as for here, I think we are fine!

Has Private Eye been stealing taf's jokes again? (Not to mention MPs stealing mad's.)

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Be afraid. Be very afraid...

http://w11.zetaboards.com/Ex_BBC/topic/8497852/1/#new
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Lurkalot

<yikes> The migrants need to be warned. this is no promise land

I'll credit him for the opportunity
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Lurkalot

http://s4.zetaboards.com/Ex_Radio_4/index/

I wonder why hyper didn't revive this one unless he's forgotten about it. <laugh>
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Feb 18 2013, 09:15 AM
<erm> Oh Bless Him! He never gives up does he... <erm>
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Feb 18 2013, 10:24 AM
http://s4.zetaboards.com/Ex_Radio_4/index/

I wonder why hyper didn't revive this one unless he's forgotten about it. <laugh>
He has started several, now ghostly, forums where unsuspecting people leave a post or two.
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Feb 18 2013, 09:15 AM
"The soul of the BBC, Is it gone or not? "

Oh, that is classic hyperstar wording!
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....and even more with this line ....."To inform and to educate and to entrain" :blink:
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Feb 18 2013, 12:01 PM
....and even more with this line ....."To inform and to educate and to entrain" :blink:
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Lurkalot

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio4/

Ah memories of the former bbc radio 4 boards
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Some good stuff there. I rather like this thread. <laugh>

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbarchers/NF2693943?thread=8415854

A plea from one of the other boards for help.
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Roger Bolton presided over a futile discussion about The Archers Message Board in last Friday's Feedback - he said many, many listeners have contacted Feedback about the closure on 25th February, and they don't pull their punches....very interesting in the discussion that ensued, especially when they got onto costs restraints, monetary budgets etc ....m/b discussions starts at 03.33....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01qkqr7/Feedback_15_02_2013/

Nigel Smith, interactive editor of R4/R4 Extra, says they're closing the m/b because it's only used by a handful of people - when asked by Rog..what's a handfull? he replied "under a thousand regular posters"...on a monthly basis about 10,000 people look at the conversations...

<crikey> Caiss, does that mean we're for the chop! <laugh>


p.s. There's always this for Archers diehards.... .... http://www.thearchers.co.uk/
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Don't say things like that Mobs ......

More from Nigel ......

"There have been lots of comments here about the BBC using/promoting sites like Facebook and Twitter. There are 10m active users of Twitter in the UK and 30m Facebook users and we know that Radio 4 listeners use Twitter and Facebook to a far greater extent than any other comparable social media platforms.

If the BBC is to remain relevant to its users we need to engage with the new forms of media that they choose. Some have asked whether Facebook and Twitter pay the BBC at all. They do not. Research shows us that there are millions of people who use social media sites, listen to our radio networks, but don't visit the BBC website which explains our syndication approach.

This also applies to other forums and many message board users are already using sites such as Archers Addicts (www.thearchers.co.uk... and Mustard Land/Peet's Place (www.paranormal.org.u....

As I’ve said previously we do not publish production budgets. I appreciate that this isn’t a satisfactory response for some of you. I can tell that you that moderation of The Archers message board constitutes more than 90% of the moderation budget for all of BBC Radio and is regularly higher than the moderation costs of all of BBC News.

Again, as I’ve said before (see www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/... ) this decision is not crudely about saving money, it’s about prioritising what we do, while innovating digitally and bringing our programmes to the widest possible audience..

On Feedback I asked whether the BBC should still be in the business of hosting its own online communities. When they have only a relatively small number of users, I’m not sure that it should. "

I think it's about handling audiences en masse and a desire to be 'up to date'. You can't communicate much on Twitter however many thousands are tweeting away. It's a shame the BBC can't just be generous and have ML as an amenity, resource or website fun feature. How many are involved in focus groups? ML is a great big, ready-made knowledgeable one.
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Feb 19 2013, 06:28 PM
Don't say things like that Mobs ......

<nickclegg> ....only joking <cheers!>
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Lurkalot

http://www.bbc.co.uk/messageboards/newguide/messageboards_a-z.shtml

ah memories.

tv cult boards, debate boards, five boards, eastenders missing so must have been removed before these.

RIP <rose>
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Seems to be quite a lot of movement to here.....seen one or two familiar names.... <wink>

http://mustardland.boards.net/index.cgi
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492 members and 7,500 posts in less than a fortnight. It's enough to make hyperstar cry.

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I'm not sure, it seems a bit of a hybrid to me....I don't recognise the moderators names....not that means anything I suppose...
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waiting4atickle
Feb 22 2013, 06:13 PM

492 members and 7,500 posts in less than a fortnight. It's enough to make hyperstar cry.


Que?

Last I checked, it was rather less than... OK, just under a hundred posters?
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Are we talking about the same place, Joe? Mustardland.boards.net? 496 members now and closing in on 8,000 posts.

Active Users In The Past 24 Hours - 6 Staff Members, 194 Members, 659 Guests, 13 Invisible Users

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbarchers/NF2693943?thread=8414462

As I understand it, it's called sue's place
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Feb 23 2013, 11:53 AM

Are we talking about the same place, Joe? Mustardland.boards.net? 496 members now and closing in on 8,000 posts.

Active Users In The Past 24 Hours - 6 Staff Members, 194 Members, 659 Guests, 13 Invisible Users


I guess we aren't. I hadn't clocked the link, and thought you were talking about here...

I have a recollection of this 'Smeesue' saying on another board that she passed on the IP addresses of posters she banned to other board owners, and if that's still the case, I wouldn't want to post there, as just the kind of person she might decide to have a problem with. People should be judged on how they behave, not the opinion of a third person.
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Feb 23 2013, 11:59 AM
People should be judged on how they behave, not the opinion of a third person.

I guess you're right, Joe - but you're just offering a third person opinion...

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Feb 23 2013, 12:11 PM
Joe K
Feb 23 2013, 11:59 AM
People should be judged on how they behave, not the opinion of a third person.

I guess you're right, Joe - but you're just offering a third person opinion...


Yes, but no-one is being barred from posting on the basis of that opinion.
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True enough - but do board owners actually bar people on the basis of another board owner's say-so? or just mark them as potential trouble-makers and keep a special eye on them?

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That's a question that might be better put to this 'Smeesmue', surely? The answer, if one is forthcoming, might change my opinion.
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do you think bbc boards data shared like that. surely this should be part of terms and conditions of using any board. <erm> we know insurance companies data share.
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The BBC have done worse than that, over the years, with competitions and stuff, and don't start me on their moderation. I think they have that Nulabour attitude of 'It's perfectly legal if I get away with it'...

Edit: I missed a word
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Blah blah blah! For all it's faults, I love the BBC like I love a long lost lover!!!! Try living abroad without it for a few months....

Anyway, here's "Mustardland the Downfall"....too late for the Oscars tomorrow night I fear, but it might get The Kermode next year! <bubbly>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnxJnJLiTJ0&feature=youtu.be
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Feb 23 2013, 04:25 PM
I love the BBC
I used to but it's fast losing it's fascination and that makes me a little sad...
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Not for me! Television and Radio - their services are invaluable over all formats....There are far too many pro's against cons for me to abandon them....
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Feb 23 2013, 04:33 PM
for me to abandon them....
I'm not going to do that!
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<applause> Good news!
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It does test one's loyalty though ..... then there's something very good. I think the institution should be defended at all cost, never mind who the current incumbents are.
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There is still plenty of good stuff on radio3 and 4. Television is more problematic, but if you plan your viewing, it can yield some gems. If there is by chance something good on the commercial channels, I record these so that I can skip through the commercials.

When I've been on holiday abroad (Italy for example) television programmes are invariably awful. They seem to consist of a dozen or so people sitting round a table, talking interminably, and an audience who laugh uproariously every few moments. The programme usually ends by some of the females at the table removing some clothing.
Maybe, it's because I don't speak Italian, but I don't think that would help.

So, let's hear it for the good old Beeb. She's like a dotty old relative who annoys us sometimes, but always sends us a postal order on our birthday.
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Just to clarify ... :) this thread is about BBC messageboards and that ( the closures etc) and the recent goings on at the BBC were what I was alluding to in the main ....overall it is not the organisation it once was, imo, but it does still turn out programmes of the highest calibre both to listen to and to watch.
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Blah blah blah!

Are you addressing me, by any chance..?
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I don't see anybody else here, so you must be addressing me..? <whistles>
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Mobson
Feb 23 2013, 04:25 PM
Blah blah blah! For all it's faults, I love the BBC like I love a long lost lover!!!! Try living abroad without it for a few months....

Anyway, here's "Mustardland the Downfall"....too late for the Oscars 2013 I fear but it might get a Kermode next year! <bubbly>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnxJnJLiTJ0&feature=youtu.be
A great Downfall, Mobs ...... <laugh>
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Yes it was ME! Haven't we, didn't we, go on and on and on about moderation vis-a-vis the BBC messageboards which were closed in 2011! - do we really need to spend/waste time reliving a dead duck....after all you did say "don't start me on their moderation."....I was agreeing with you! <cool>
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