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Topic Started: May 30 2013, 11:41 AM (941 Views)
caissier
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Lets's have a History section ??

I see a few things which would suit one and it was an idea a while ago. The sections can possibly get cluttered but these days it feels to me it would be ok ......
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Mobson
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<ok> Lets! ....


A split between Radio Drama, Readings, Poetry, Live Theatre might also be considered thus... 'radio drama and live theatre'... and 'readings (or literature) and poetry' - so many times when we put up a play it disappears when a poem is posted or vice versa...
Edited by Mobson, May 30 2013, 05:01 PM.
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waiting4atickle
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Is this section history?

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Mobson
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^o) Think so!
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Norm Deplume
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Shame! It didn't last long did it? Perhaps it was modern history.
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Lurkalot

Well the bbc boards are into cyberspace history as well as hyper's boards now <dalek>
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Mobson
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Yeah but we're not!
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becky sharp
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History re-written?

On the radio the other day I caught some of a conversation about it being the 100th centenary of the First World War next year. The man being interviewed (Bruce Simpson of The Western Front Associsation ) was pouring scorn on the saying "Lions led by donkeys" and I was curious so I had a look on -line and found this article.

http://www.westernfrontassociation.com/great-war-current-news/3-newsflash/3019-report-on-the-proceedings-of-the-wfa-annual-general-meeting-of-27-april-2013.html ..

I found this one as well

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwone/lions_donkeys_01.shtml#top

In the first article it says


Even within the story of the Western Front there are considerable differences in interpretation. Another highly distinguished academic historian, Professor William Philpott, has argued persuasively that it is Haig's view of the relative importance of the British and French efforts in the final defeat of the German army which has persisted ever since in British eyes and that, consequently, our understanding of the Western Front is mistakenly skewed towards an Anglocentric bias, seriously underplaying the importance of the French role and contribution. I have to say that, in many respects, I fully endorse the sterling efforts of Bill Philpott , Michael Neiberg and others to remind us of, or bring our attention to, the massive contribution of the French nation and army to the ultimate defeat of Imperial Germany. Under Bill's scholarly supervision at King's College London, some important new research, at doctoral level, is being carried out on the French Army – a development which,
I think, should be warmly applauded. What I do find difficult to swallow, however, is the criticism – either by direct statement or by implication – that the work of several 'revisionist' historians, including myself, has been too Anglocentric in scope, content and tone. Speaking personally , I make no apologies for having spent the best part of thirty years working on the history of the BEF on the Western Front. When we set out on the 'revisionist' path, British First World War studies were still mired in the 'butchers and bunglers' and 'lions led by donkeys' school of Great War history. Now, thirty years later - and thanks to the work of the late Paddy Griffith, Andy Simpson, Gary Sheffield. John Lee, John Bourne, Peter Hart, Rob Thompson, Brian Bond, Bryn Hammond, and several others – we know a great deal more about the organisation, infrastructure, tactical development, command and control, logistics, artillery and engineering effort, brigade and divisional commanders, and the operations of the BEF. As a result of all this effort, we have moved a long way from the 'lions led by donkeys' perception. But, as I said earlier, there is still a great deal of work to be done on the role of the British and Dominion forces on the Western Front, particularly on manpower issues, training, the reserve and drafting system, the social and geographical composition of units, casualties, morale and discipline, etc., etc. So long as these gaps in our present knowledge exist, there remains an important role for the WFA and for British First World War studies in general. Again, we have no need to offer excuses for our studies being inevitably Anglocentric. Moreover, I am not aware of many national organisations, or academic institutions, in France, Belgium or Germany which are making a significant contribution to the study of the British and Dominion forces on the Western Front. The truth is that, in the final analysis, it is down to us, and our colleagues in the Commonwealth, to further the proper remembrance of the officers, men and women of the BEF and of their experiences and achievements in France and Flanders.
I think, should be warmly applauded. What I do find difficult to swallow, however, is the criticism – either by direct statement or by implication – that the work of several 'revisionist' historians, including myself, has been too Anglocentric in scope, content and tone. Speaking personally , I make no apologies for having spent the best part of thirty years working on the history of the BEF on the Western


I found the whole article an interesting read
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caissier
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Just waiting for a view or two more ...... and pre-occupied with some other things - sorry. I'll do a new History section.
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rumbaba
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Don't rush Caissier, history is in no hurry :)
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caissier: Just waiting for a view or two more ...... and pre-occupied with some other things - sorry. I'll do a new History section.
Mobson
May 30 2013, 04:55 PM
<ok> Lets! ....A split between Radio Drama, Readings, Poetry, Live Theatre might also be considered thus... 'radio drama and live theatre'... and 'readings (or literature) and poetry' - so many times when we put up a play it disappears when a poem is posted or vice versa...


<seeya> and this too???.... pretty please...when you have time of course
Edited by Mobson, Jun 12 2013, 11:08 AM.
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caissier
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rumbaba
Jun 12 2013, 10:51 AM
Don't rush Caissier, history is in no hurry :)
Carve that in stone <laugh>
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Mobson
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...but we all know... Time Waits for No Man <angel>
Edited by Mobson, Jun 12 2013, 01:45 PM.
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rumbaba
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Tom Waits ?
Edited by rumbaba, Jun 12 2013, 01:54 PM.
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caissier
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Sure thing Mobs ....
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Mobson
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<happy> <rose>
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caissier
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I've done some section juggling. It is a bit tricky working the controls and I didn't want to crash the plane. It seems to be working ok .....

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Um ............
Edited by caissier, Jun 15 2013, 04:35 PM.
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rumbaba
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Looks great Caissier, thanks for putting in the time and effort - we all appreciate what you do <ok>
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Mobson
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Ditto...I love it ....and you for taking the time....it's so much clearer and defined now.... <star>
Edited by Mobson, Jun 15 2013, 06:03 PM.
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Great job, cap'n <ok> Are we back on auto-pilot now?

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caissier
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"You have the ship, Mr Spock .... "

(Does that make sense? Probably not ..... )
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Mobson
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<ok> ...sure does... <bart> ... as we ain't got no Mr Spoke here!
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becky sharp
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Thanks from me too,caiss ...your efforts are much appreciated...have you checked the honours list?...just in case... <wink>
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