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| Charnobyl | Oct 3 2011, 11:18 PM Post #16 |
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I can make the universe of Harry Potter work for you, Luke my boy. Then you'd enjoy it. |
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| Lithas | Oct 4 2011, 02:10 AM Post #17 |
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The only possible explanation for that universe is that every time they cast a spell a star dies. |
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| Setsu | Oct 4 2011, 02:46 AM Post #18 |
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What? You think that their magic has no source? What about pretty much everything else that uses magic and/or energy? |
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| dbzfreak2 | Oct 4 2011, 01:07 PM Post #19 |
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Are you frutin kiddin me right now?
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Everything uses magic in some way. Oh yes it does, it surrounds us, binds the universe together. That is how jedi get thier-oh wait |
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| Lithas | Oct 4 2011, 01:21 PM Post #20 |
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Eragon: A horribly written series uses a surprising well-created magic system. Normal people may becoem mages, but because they are limited by the amount of energy a human can store up at any given time (the same kind of energy that lets you walk, run or jump) they are relatively weak. Stronger mages use battery-like objects, or can draw upon other sources to fuel their spells. Lord of the Rings: All wizards are essentially demigods, receiving their power from higher beings. D&D: Arcane Magic is fueled by spellcaster's bodies and the efficiency of their spells, thus "better" mages can cast more spells. Divine magic is derived from higher beings, Psionics use the power of their bodies etc.... A Song of Ice and Fire: The power of spells in this series is not explicitly stated, but seems to have the affect of consuming the souls/bodies of those who practice their arts. Star Wars: Midichlorians are transdimensional-beings. Because they work beyond the spectrum that we can observe we don't know the way they do what they do. Jedi are still limited by how well they can communicate with the Midis. Wheel of Time: The power for spells comes from the force that fuels the universe, humans can not create this power, they merely channel it and guide it into specific spells. Stronger spells require more power, which will require more energy on the caster's part to guide. Casting too strong a spell will "burn you out" either outright killing you or destroying your ability to channel forever. Power like this can also be gained from higher beings. Harry Potter: Waving your wand in the air along with vocalization(optional) somehow creates enough energy to cause dramatic effects. Any number of spells may be cast without the caster becoming weary or weak. There is no bound to what is possible, and despite the fact that angsty, emo children are capable of it (Snape) no one seems to create new spells for any reason. There is also nothing said on how a wizard becomes more or less powerful. Knowledge is a determining factor, but Voldemort was always said to be powerful. The best guess we have is that wands determine power, which still has hazy implications and definitions. See the differences? Edited by Lithas, Oct 4 2011, 01:30 PM.
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| jimjams14 | Oct 4 2011, 05:34 PM Post #21 |
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I think Luna's mother died trying to create a new spell, which kind of explains why few people try - it's stupid and dangerous unless you're pretty damn good with magic. |
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| Setsu | Oct 4 2011, 10:26 PM Post #22 |
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![]() All I see are biased opinions. Inheritance (Eragon) was not horribly written. It was rather well written. It is your opinion that it was written badly, because you apparently don't like it. As for your idea of the magic source in Harry Potter... *ahem*... STFU about stuff you know nothing about. The words and the wand have little to do with magic. Wizards are capable of performing magic without either. The wand just acts as a sort of focusing tool. Wands are made with a magical substance for the core to channel the magic flowing from wizards. There is also magic 'in the air' that they might be able to utilize. It was never explained if they could or not though. As for how much magic they can do, and why they never seem to run out, no one really does that much magic all at once. If they do, it's either weak spells and such, or they are very powerful. Being powerful has to do more with skill than knowledge. But it also has to do with how much magical engery shit you have inside. If you're a Naruto fan, think of it like chakra. If you have good control you can use more jutsu than someone with bad control, and the same amount of chakra. If you are not a Naruto fan, you obviously hate everything and are just in this thread to declare your hatred for Harry Potter with biased opinions. Edited by Setsu, Oct 4 2011, 10:28 PM.
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| demon spirit | Nov 28 2011, 03:09 PM Post #23 |
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i agree with both. but anyone could have the power the control magic. im not saying it is real cuz it not. but yea |
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| Lithas | Nov 29 2011, 01:57 AM Post #24 |
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Huh, I never saw this reply HAVE AT YOU: First of all, I do not like Naruto, but that's mostly because I don't like most anime. No I haven't read the manga, and no I don't plan to in the near future. As for Eragon, there are a plenty of sources out there explaining why it is poorly written, and it took me a painfully long 6 years to realize those sources were correct. I don't want to get into an argument here when there are a bounty of other people who can do it for me on the internet. Try HERE HERE or HERE If you want me to go into more details, I will but would rather not. As for the source of power in the HP universe, I was informed by several member of this site that Wands were the source of the wizard's power. I appologise for my mistakes, but since the issue is NEVER ADDRESSED DEFINITIVELY by the author, we can only work off of wild conjecture, can't we? I'd like to address the point you raised about wands acting as a focus of power. You mentioned that the only spells we have seen are weak or very powerful. I'll assume that a "weak" spell is one like Lumos which brings light to an area, or even Avada Kadabra which kills on the spot (which is not very energy-consuming if done properly) More powerful spells would perhaps be things like Wingardium Leviosa or Acio (which are both forces acting at a distance without any known "limit" to what they can lift, mostly used with small objects, admittedly). Where, though, does Stupify fall in there? Is it weak? It certainly contains enough power to blast apart stone, or lift a grown man off his feet when he is hit by it. Or maybe you prefer me to consider Engorgio which actually makes an object larger and (unless I'm mistaken) more massive? Or maybe Incendo which creates a large amount of fire? I'm not saying that the books themselves are bad, poorly written, or any other detrimental thing about them other than this: The system of magic is obviously flawed within them, and this is mostly hand-waved aside by both the author and the characters. Yes, I am in this thread to talk about something that I dislike even though it is very popular, however there is no rule against such action. In fact, if everyone agreed abut everything this site would get quite boring quite quickly. This doesn't mean I "hate everything," however, and I would appreciate you not continuing with with your ad hominen attacks. |
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| Setsu | Nov 29 2011, 03:31 PM Post #25 |
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Waitwaitwait. Could you not tell that I was trolling? I could honestly care less about if you like something or not. I do like Eragon, but I understand why people don't like it (the whole LotR universe with SW plot), but I still enjoy it. Even so, I was not being serious at all with my previous post. Think back to first moment you've witnessed me in conversation. When have I ever been serious? Amyway. Harry Potter has its flaws, but I like it. If you don't, you are entitled to your opinion. :3 |
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| Lithas | Nov 30 2011, 12:06 AM Post #26 |
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Be angrier :@ I like arguing! |
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