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| Topic Started: Jan 15 2012, 02:20 AM (327 Views) | |
| Dragoknighte | Jan 15 2012, 02:20 AM Post #1 |
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So yesterday I saw this video, and I was just disgusted by the sheer ignorance displayed by the people here. I guess I feel a bit more strongly about this because I'm close friends with a gay guy and pretty good friends with a bi, and just knowing these people are influential enough to be shown in mainstream media makes me think about just how badly bigotry can be infused in a culture. Thoughts? |
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| Carolina | Jan 15 2012, 02:55 AM Post #2 |
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I honestly think that is the closest I've come to puking in seven years. Now, a few things. First, I go to a school where being gay or lesbian is accepted. Of course, there are some people who are uncomfortable with it, but there always will be different opinions, and at a school where "different" is "normal," being gay is pretty much just considered part of who you are, and no one makes a big deal out of it. Second, I'm religious. While I myself would not engage in homosexuality, nor condone it, it doesn't bother me, and I happen to like every gay person I've ever met. I am impartial, I don't like it or hate it, not for it or strictly against it. I believe that part of being Catholic is accepting others for who you are. In fact, in the Bible, it never says that gay is BAD. In fact, I found this the other day: Spoiler: click to toggle Ignorant people who condemn homosexuals are the ones who need to open their eyes. Especially in a country where the right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is outlined in the document that governs the American people. People will be different. It's sad that the ability to put aside differences and appreciate people for their character is smothered by one's gender, sexual orientation, nationality, religion, and skin color. Whether you believe we came from Adam and Eve or a single cell, we all still came from the same place... right? |
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| princezsupastar | Jan 15 2012, 07:36 AM Post #3 |
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Jesus loved everyone. People should follow his example. Pretty much all of my closest friends are gay men. They seem to flock to me like moths to a flame. So I feel pretty strongly on the subject of homophobia, the fact that it truly disgusts me that people can be that closed-minded. People should be free to love whoever they want, regardless of gender. You can't choose who you fall in love with, nor can you choose to be gay, straight, bisexual, transgender. It's something that's imprinted in your DNA. I'm bisexual, and currently in a relationship with a man, but I could just as happily be in a relationship with another woman. It's not something I chose, I struggled over it for years. It's more confusing than being either gay or straight, because you like both genders, and yet society pretty much tells you to pick one. But this shouldn't change anyone's opinion of me, I'm still just the same ol' star. The thing is, I often forget my friends are gay. I don't associate their sexuality with who they are. I don't see my best friend Reece (who I've known for thirteen years and has been my bestie for ten) as a gay man, I see him just as Reece. Society sees us and judges us instantly based on our sexuality, gender, race, age, etc, and yet there's a lot more than meets the eye. My friends are some of the most amazing people I have ever met, and yet there are haters out there who would believe they are the scum of the earth. ...I should probably stop ranting now. I do tend to get very passionate on this subject. |
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| stsenna | Jan 15 2012, 08:46 PM Post #4 |
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I seriously don't find it comprehensible that some people can possibly be this ignorant and bigoted. And yet, it's not surprising either. I've seen too much ignorance from people around me to be shocked by it. That doesn't excuse it however. When society has reached a level when I've got friends telling me and only me that they're not straight (bearing in mind this is not gay or bi, they say "not straight" exactly) and keeping it a secret because they don't want to be looked down on by society, it shows that ignorance is too potent. |
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| DFlame | Jan 16 2012, 04:01 AM Post #5 |
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guy who is never around
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My reaction to this? Meh. I guess I'm a bit jaded with this sort of thing. Seen it so many times before, certainly nothing new. People can be small-minded at times, unable to even think rationally about anything that brings question to their world view. At this point it doesn't even anger my anymore. If it helps any, it's hard to say how much these people actually believe these things. Bringing up things like this is a good way of distracting from big issues and they know it'll get a number of people on their side. Fortunately, I think the number of people who will be enticed by this rhetoric will decrease more and more until it mostly fades from the public consciousness. I mean yeah, there will always be bigots with hatred in their hearts, but those people will become the minority and will be frowned down upon by society. It's happened with other forms of prejudice in the past (though admittedly those still need some work too) and I'm sure it'll happen here as well. I mean really, do you guys know many people of our generation with these sort of ideals? Maybe I'm just in a liberal area, but I don't know of any myself. I like to think that as a society we are continually progressing, it's one of the few things that gives me hope for this mess we call humanity. |
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| Heero Yuy | Jan 19 2012, 08:34 PM Post #6 |
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I've got to say that some of the stuff they say in there doesn't surprise me at all. These people are just dumb asses who don't understand that not all people want to be in a relationship with the opposite sex. I know plenty of gay people in my school. And there are also some in my school that say stuff just like this. I personally, feel strongly just like Star about this. I'm straight, but the people in my school that are gay, are just fun to be around. My only thing is just don't flirt with me. I'm completely fine with it as long as that doesn't happen. But besides that, people where I live, we have a good mix of people that support the gay's and those that despise them and want to condemn them. I just hope that this madness stops soon. Cause those people that want to condemn them will have a serious problem on their hands if they don't shape up and just accept them. |
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| Snow White | Jan 19 2012, 09:15 PM Post #7 |
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Whether it agrees with others or not, everyones entitled to their own opinion. Even though these people are viewed as bigots, they're just expressing their own beliefs regarding homosexuality. That's it. The video itself was blank to me when I came into this thread, and when I saw people being disgusted by the video, I thought it was something under the lines of people taking their hate of homesexuality to extremes, whether it be hurting or killing people like they did in the past. However it was a video of random people on the news expressing their views of homosexuality, which seems kind of innocent compared to how people handled homosexuality in the past :/ Did I get offended by this video? Not really. I don't know any gay people and therefore my opinion on homosexuality would not based on who I associate with. Even if I did know someone who was gay, lesbian, or bi, I still wouldn't be offended by people expressing their beliefs on homosexuals. After all, I view words for what they are, words. The only way to be offended by words is if you allow words to offend you. It takes less energy to shrug off something and walk away than to stand there, stamp your feet and blow a fuse because someone said something that didn't rub you the right way ![]() Now I seriously doubt these people who come on tv and gives these speeches turn people in bigots. Normally people don't turn this hateful overnight because they watched the news and some guy discussed homosexuality being the root of all evils. You're a bigot either because you were raised by bigots and therefore have been exposed to bigotry your whole life. Or, you associate with bigots, whether they be friends, co-workers, or go to a social gathering based on bigotry [Ex- West Burough Baptists], and are exposed to hate for long periods. At some point down the road homosexuality will be a norm and people will accept it. Will that be in my life-time? No. Not enough time has passed, and there are still people out there who stand firm to their beliefs. Should these people be hated and called bigots and assholes because they believe something you don't? Not really. If you expect others to accept you, you should also accept other peoples short-comings and that they also make a choice. Practice what you preach, that's what I always say ![]() |
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| Izzy | Feb 13 2012, 08:17 AM Post #8 |
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As somebody who has been a supporter for LGBT rights for years, there are a lot of things I can say about this video, but on top of what y'all have been posting, it would be redundant. either way, it baffles me that people in this day and age still think like this, and are taken seriously by the American public (well most of them, Ann Coulter is and will always be a fucking joke of a journalist). unfortunately, as offended as i was with some of these remarks, these people are entitled to their beliefs, even if myself and others find them to be incredibly prejudiced and unwarranted. we live in (at least on paper) a democratic republic that grants these people the liberty to believe what and say what they want even if I don't agree. that being said, while i believe that these people in power have the right to hate and pass their judgement on homosexuals, i do not believe that these people have the right to deny their heated subjects the right to marry and raise families. whether these homophobes like it or not, the homosexuals that they are targeting are fellow Americans who pay taxes and are subject to the same obligations and duties (jury duty and such) as everyone else and a part of being American is honoring your fellow countryman's (or woman's) individual's right to liberty, even if you don't like them. |
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