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| Education; we do'nt nead no edercashun! | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 17 2012, 01:25 AM (211 Views) | |
| jimjams14 | Feb 17 2012, 01:25 AM Post #1 |
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So I was reading what Poo said in his roasting thread about the general discussion on this site lacking during my half term, most of which I spent watching vlogbrother videos, and couldn’t help but agree. So I decided to try and do something about this because it’s the only way anyone can expect something to happen (I really want to put a quote here like “all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” or “every action has an equal and opposite reaction” but those really don’t fit very well). Since I’m on a break from college and recently watched a vlogbrother video that talked about a guy who moved to Bangladesh to use money he saved up for an xbox to benefit the children there, including send them to school, I figured I might as well start a conversation about Education. Now, I get the feeling education may have been used as topic before but I wanted to try it anyway, partially because it’s late at night and I’m not very good at being creative and partially because we’ve all had experience with it . However, though we may have all had our own experiences in education I also really want this thread to discuss other things such as world wide attitudes to education and how this affects the areas with those attitudes. You should go off on whatever education related tangent you want, it’s a broad subject and should be explored as such. Personally I believe it’s necessary for… everything pretty much and will be the key to solving every problem we face and will face in the future. Now this seems a fairly redundant statement to me and if I look at it on its own it confuses me why people complain so much about education. Admittedly I have complained about school before but now that I am out of compulsory education it seems odd to me that other people in the same situation as me will complain about still being in full time education. For those that don’t know, in England at least full time education is only compulsory up until the age of 16 (or at least it was, I think it’s now changing to 18 for younger people), at 16 you can go to college where you can get 3 free years of college education because the government will pay for you until you are 18 (when you start in September). Many people take advantage of this to get more qualifications so they can get a half decent job but a lot of them will still end up complaining. I’m going to stop there for now. When I asked my friend for other education related topics this is the list she gave me: • Education in your area • Different systems of education, • Different charities which aim to promote education both in first- and third-world countries • The extent to which the government is improving or damaging education • Home-schooling, starting at 4 vs starting at 7, being kept back vs. ability groups, • How the Lord knoweth no wrath like a substitute teacher at breaking point • How ****ing glad you are to be finished with compulsory education If you have anything to talk about that other people on the forum may not know as much about as you do please give as much detail as you can, I think that would fit nicely with the theme. Disclaimer: I apologise for any wrong information in this post and my tired rant in the middle, it seems threads aren’t best when hastily thrown together early in the morning. |
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| POOHEAD189 | Feb 17 2012, 02:49 AM Post #2 |
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I see education as a double edged sword. And that's just regular education. For the formal education that I got that wasn't from my own readings and research? It was not very satisfactory. I can safely say that passed the 4th grade, I've learned more on my own than I ever did in school, and this includes every school I've been to, even college. Maybe its because I'm just weird. Maybe its because I like looking things up. I don't know, i'm not a doctor (yet). Its not that I learned nothing. Just that I did not learn half of what I could have. I remember in from Kindergarden to the 2nd grade, I was fascinated with Dinosaurs and reptiles. When I reached grade 2, we learned about them, and I knew more than the teacher. So what did she do? She actually sent me to TEACH a 4th grade class on Dinosaurs. I've corrected teachers multiple times through my school career, yet my grades were questionable. I learned more than most of the other classmates I had, yet I got bad grades on tests because it was so fast paced, and the tests were based on temporary memorization than actual learning. But I still have things in my brain from school that influences how I see the world, unlike my friends who cant remember what they learned in school last year. But as for education as a whole, without the fairly flawed school system... Like I said, a double edged sword. It gives us cleaner water in our homes but creates nuclear bombs. It heals diseases but pollutes the planet. I think of Education like I think of a sword. It can be used for good or for evil, but no matter what its used for, be wary of it. You might accidently cut yourself, and beware if your enemies gain it, but you can save and protect people with it. TBH I put morals higher on the latter than education, but education is still very important. I don't see the spreading of knowledge as a good thing, because I know human nature. But again, maybe i'm being a pessimist. It can certainly be used for good as well. So in conclusion on what I think of education: As long as the right people are educated. And educated right. Edited by POOHEAD189, Feb 17 2012, 03:08 AM.
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| dcsdcsdcsdcsdcs | Feb 17 2012, 03:28 AM Post #3 |
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I think you're mistaking technology for education :(. Education, especially "education as a whole" as you put it, also implies moral, ethical, and philosophical education. To be "educated" doesn't mean you spent your entire time in college stuck in a lab memorizing metabolism pathways; it means you're a well developed human being. This is why you see so many people popping out of college with a degree, but more or less retarded, with the ethical understanding of a six year old. They generally sleep through GE and never bother learning shit about philosophy. |
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| POOHEAD189 | Feb 17 2012, 03:36 AM Post #4 |
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Well I meant knowledge in general. Since knowledge is power, and power in the wrong hands is Spoiler: click to toggle But you have a point there. Though I don't know how we can be educated to be good people in a wide scale way other than kids shows when we are kids. The Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle is a good read, but I doubt people will take the time to thoroughly learn it. Hell, most religions have good messages despite the fact people usually screw it up. The Bible, the Qu'ran, the 7 Paths to Enlightenment can technically educate all of us, but I doubt anyone would really take the time to read them much less learn about them. I've read the bible, the 7 paths, and much of the Qu'ran. But again, I did this on my own as a philosopher (well, it wasn't initially so with the bible, but it became that way. EVERYONE can learn a few things from Jesus, no matter what you believe). Not from regular education. We need something that gives people the drive to learn. But if you include things like that into regular education, then you have a point as I have said. Edited by POOHEAD189, Feb 17 2012, 06:41 AM.
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| dcsdcsdcsdcsdcs | Feb 20 2012, 04:23 PM Post #5 |
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You should check out Immanuel Kant and deontological ethics. I'm sure you'd love the shit out of those ^_^ |
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