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Giving serious thought to quiting rtw
Topic Started: Oct 13 2005, 11:53 AM (340 Views)
Zalmoxis of dacia
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I just dled the new patch for rtw (1.3) and its terrible. It unbalences things even moe so imo doesnt fix MANY of the underlying issues that have been in the game since its creation. I bet may ofyall have been wondering where I have been. I been VERY busy in the effort of finding employment.Anyways Back to the subject at hand. Seeing that this is how they fix things I find no reason to purchase BI should I find employment or for that matter any other total war game. I think that I am going to stick with the rtr mod. It better balences skirmishers cav infantry and archers,had better skins, and well is more realistic
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Dinadan of Logris
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Want to try it in MP?
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Pellinore of Northumbria
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Zal,

We are having a great time with BI -- when you have the funds you ought to give it a try.

The slower pace and the unit interactions really make it a greatly improved game for me.

Pellinore
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Dinas of Cheshire

I second that Pelli,

You should give it a real chance before you decide to quit zal, part of the fun of playing is playing with your friends....and as alot of people have now migrated solely to BI then perhaps you should think about it too, would be a shame to see you leave.
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antoine of padou
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2 great reply zal......i cant say better

antoine
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Viktor of Astaroth
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Hey Zal, you well know, "i think"...that the Pages and me..are always looking for some *vetz to get a real can of "wupass" B) at MTW/VI..think about it matey :lol: dont go...instead visit Us at MTW/VI...you'll be rusty at first, but we'll make sure you get back in shape.. :blink:
P.D: Hey matey, wut mod you got? for rome? is it...Total Realism.?

thanks, peace :ph43r:

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Zalmoxis of dacia
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Didnt say I was going to quit. But lets do some comparison now. Archer auxilla is now better than a cretan archer??????? And whats worse the cretan cost more!

Instead of improving shields and doing some minor adjustments to archers they instead dwarf them completely some to gross inefficency.

Javlin infantry Still cost to much and do to little damage esp when compared to some of the archers

Archers are still to cheap only costing 90. training such infantry wouldbnt be that cheap.

Pre-marius romans would have used slingers not archers.

Elite roman infantry and cav is still to cheap. MNaking it practical for people to use them in large abundence

Romans have poor cav with the exception of elite units. Legionary cav is far to good for the romans. If anything the romans hired lots of barbarian cav or mercenary cav.This is not represented accurately in game

Romans werent known for there archers and they were just a support unit and thats about it. There still a llittle to strong and cheap to upgrade.

Falxmen should have an effective against armour bonus. Historiclly the falx was VERY effective against most conventional armours of the day

These are just a few examples of the many needed adjustments that SHOULD have been made for bother better gameplay and better faction balencing. I could go on but then it would get rather lengthy

If any1 likes I could make a modify the units to how they should be and give a copy of it to any who would like to check it out. I dont know if it would be possibly to use in in multiplayer though

I dont have mtw or VI. I MIGHT be able to get mtw but I dunno if I could

EDIT: Yes its the rome total realism mod. I know its not the best but its a farcray from default rtw and a rather nice improvement
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Zalmoxis of dacia
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EDIT2: I just want to be clear on this. I am not by any means leaving rtk. I dont leave clans/alliances/Guilds unless I am ordered or if its for the better or it disbands. I wore my 1st clans tags for 2 years after it disbanded to honor its memory. So if yall want me to leave your gonna have hell trying to make me :) as I dont easily give up

Yeah I should try it on multiplayer before I completely dismiss it. I will say 1 thing though Creating another problem to solve 1 problem isnt the way to fix things. I know this from my own expirence in modifying. Something I been doing for several years now. I honestly dont see how they came to this "solution". Making such changes require endless hours of testing and adjustments and more testing. I am thinking they took the wrong aproche alltogether though

This was supposed to be my second edit but for some reason it wouldnt let me edit it :\
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Dinadan of Logris
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I don't know about the rest, but archer auxilia have been better and cheaper than cretans previously.
(AA: missile 9, armour 3, CrA: missile 11, armour 0. Plus, their formation enabled the AA to focus better on targets.)
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galahad of jerusalem
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Zal, good to hear you'll be hangin round .I too need to play BI but my comp is messed up and needs fixin forst...then ill be there too as the Uber n00b! :P
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Viktor of Astaroth
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Zalmoxis of dacia,Oct 14 2005
04:29 PM

I dont have mtw or VI. I MIGHT be able to get mtw but I dunno if I could

EDIT: Yes its the rome total realism mod. I know its not the best but its a farcray from default rtw and a rather nice improvement

Hey matey.?, all those complains you are making 1, 2, 3, 4,...etc and such. Are they towards Rome:TotalRealism.? huh.? :angry: ...nah J.K. :lol: .
Sheesh....is it that much you didnt liked ROme:TotalRealism.? :(

P.D: and yea, it will be nice if you are able to get MTW or Vi or both...cya until then matey. peace

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Pete of Yorkshire
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viktor how abiout u come into Bi and play a few games isted of skulking in the VI/MTW
lobby. :P
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Zalmoxis of dacia
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No its default rtw thats buggin me not rome total realism

Yeah but at least cretans had better missle attack and could be upgraded for reasonable price
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Pellinore of Northumbria
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Zal,

All your points are valid. I also agree that many of the mods are probably better than vanilla. But the TW community is already small enough and probably can't stand to be fractured into different mods, at least not at this time.

Forget all the historical stuff, and just evaluate things based on whether the game is fun or not. BI is much higher on the fun scale compared to RTW so I hope you will give it a shot!

Pellinore
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Viktor of Astaroth
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Buuu.!! <_< Rome (vanilla), and BI suxs.!!...booo...down to the oppression.. ;)
To games for the price of one, come on...buy "a vanilla" Rome..get BI free.!!...come lets go, get it now.

*sneaks some pplz inside MTW/VI lobby
says: yea, yea...watever you can have the game...lets go, come in MTW, move it along fellas :lol:

Medieval:Total War/Viking Invasion is da best.!!, remeber that name. B)

Page_Viktor
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Viktor of Astaroth
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oh, oh...and Yea. Petey you are back matey.!!! :lol: WHopee.!! 3 more cheers fo' Petey.

*Hip-hip Petey.!!, Hip-hip Petey.!!, Hip-hip Petey.!! :P

And also, i hope you dont that i took into me authority, to take over your "ale" station.

*stay back.!! its me "ale" now..stay back.

*runs like a maniac, with bottle of ale...down the corridor. :lol:.
It mine at last, all for me to enjoy...come to "Pappa" (drinks all of the ale) <_<

Oh, and yea...Rome:TotalRealism is awsome.!! far betrter than vanilla.

*tapps fingers impatienly.
Im just waiting, for the Chivalry:TotalWar, to come out...thats gonna be a blast.!! B)

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Pete of Yorkshire
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what ?????
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Viktor of Astaroth
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wasnt yours, the area in which you kept the "ale".? :huh:
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stoicblitzer
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petey is back? i think thats why he said "what ????"
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Viktor of Astaroth
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oh... :huh: i dunno, i just said: "Petey you are back matey, 'cuz i read one of the replies he gave earlier...thats all, since i havent see him for a long time now.

But seriously, details elude me on how is his situation with the issue that happened :( ..but i hope him the best of luck.

Best of luck Petey, any decision my Lords will take...will be in every sense, a wise one.

P.D:best of luck Pet..

Page_Viktor.
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Pete of Yorkshire
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ok right this stops here and now MY NAME IS PETE NOT PETEY, PET, PEDRO, PETEY PIE OR ANYTHING ELSE thankyou :lol:
OR PETIE POOPS GAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Caradoc of Mercia
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Ok Petie Poops.
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Viktor of Astaroth
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....Nah, far better Im gonna call you now. "P. P. P.".. ;)
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