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| Kay of Sauvage | Jul 20 2006, 04:53 PM Post #1 |
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Some of you guys might be interested in trying hattrick at www.hattrick.org. It's a free online soccer/football management game. I've played it a long time ago, but I just signed up and will probably get a team today. They put you into a division within your own country, so if any americans want to play, you might get into a division with me if you sign up today. A brief introduction: http://www.hattrick.org/Common/tutorial.asp And the full game rules: http://www.hattrick.org/Common/gamerules.asp |
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| Kay of Sauvage | Jul 21 2006, 09:32 PM Post #2 |
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I'm at work and I'm it's going slow, so I thought I'd give a little more info about the game. I didn't get my team yet, but I think I'll get it today. So anyway, a little more about the game... You play in a series with 8 teams. There are a number of series in each division. How many divisions there are depends on many team are in your country. So the US has 6 divisions. In division 6, there is 10024 teams, d5 has 256, d4 has 64, d3 has 16, d2 4, and there is 1 top series. The US one is called Major League. England is a little larger and has the top league being English Premier, of course. So obviously your goal is to improve your team and assets to work your way up to higher series. A season is 16 games, over 16 weeks where you play each team in your series twice. You play the league game on Sundays. There are cup matches on Wednesdays. If you are knocked out of the cup, (you'll be lucky to win the first week if you are just starting a team), then you can schedule friendly matches on wednesday. You can even play an international friendly with anyone. There is a real transfer market. You can list players for sale and teams will be able to bid on them like an ongoing auction for 3 days. Each player has a grade of different abilities which you use to decide where the player should play. There are no "central defenders", just players with high defending ability. They also can have some special attribute that can change the effectiveness of some skills depending on the weather and also can trigger special events in matchs depending on some other conditions. You also have a number of tactical decisions for matches. First, matches work like this. Depending on how you field your team, you get a rating for left defense, right defense, and central defense, ditto for attack ratings, and you also have midfield ratings. Midfield determines the percentage of chances you will have to score compared to your opponent. Those chances will attempt to be converted randomly in one of the 3 ways (left, right, middle). So that chance will compare the your attack on that side to the opponents defense on that side. There are also the special event goals. To fine tune your ratings to maximize your success against the next opponent. You can reposition players from the default 4-4-2 into different formations. So you can take a defender up to midfield to get more possession and a little more attack, but the guy repositioned will be slightly less effective because he's crowding the area, but it may be worth it tactically. You cannot reposition into wierd formations because your team will become confused and play badly. You can play a 3-4-3 or 1-4-5 for example, but not a 3-5-2 or 4-3-3. There is a limit of 1 extra player in each line. You should also gain experience in a formation by playing it occasional or you risk the team being confused and playing badly. So this is nice since a team can't make a completely unexpected formation... they have to prepare for it. There's also player orders, which cause players to use more of some skills and less of others, or to help another area of the field more. For example, a normal CD will help mostly with central defense, and a little with side defense. But with orders to play to the wing, he will defend a little more to the side and he'll use a little bit of his winger skill to help the attack on that wing. You can also choose a team tactic for the match or play it normal. Each tactic does something for you but have a negative side effect. For example, playing counter-attacks will cause you to lose some midfield advantage, allowing the opponent more chances. But you have a chance to score after successfully defending an opponent's attack. However, if you have a better midfield (greater or equal to getting 50% possession), you won't get any counter chances but just suffer the reduced midfield. Also, whether you are able to attempt a counter-attack depends on your defenders' passing ability, which is normally an absolutely useless skill for a defender. Also, a defender with the special ability "powerful" will have his passing count for double. So planning ahead and being shrew with the transfer market can give you a lot of options. The other tactics are attack on wings, attack in middle, and pressing (and normal). Some other things that affect the team is confidence and team spirit which are affected by winning/losing (and by how much)(affects confidence), bad reactions from new players transferred in (affects Team Spirit), your coach's leadership (I think just TS), your teamleader's likeability(TS), number of psycologists you've hired (raise Conf)... With low confidence, your team may blow chances to score. With low team spirit, they may lose some possession. And a major factor is which mentality you pick for your game. There are 3 choices, normal, play it cool, and match of the season. So choose PIC, and you're team will not play at it's max, but you'll build team spirit. Choose MOTS, and you'll get extra midfield, but you'll take a hit for the next games. So by looking at your schedule, you can determine the best course of action. Maybe PIC when you don't think you have a chance, and MOTS when it is needed against a close rival, assuming that you don't expect it to change the result of the next few matches. A major part of the game is training. You can use one training mode each week, and they will only train certain people would play in the correct positon for the week. So for scoring training, only forwards are trained. Everyone suggests that you play 3 forwards in all your matches to maximize training. Players can only be trained once in a week, so you'll want 6 forward trainees. You want young players because each year older cause them take longer to "pop" to the next level. Your goal is basically to sell these trainees for larger profits. Training speed also depends on your coach's ability, as well as the number of assistant coaches you have. So starting out, you'll have fairly weak trainees, few assistents, a poor coach... So you'll make what you think it a good profit. But as you make money, you get better trainees, better coach, etc, and you'll make quite a bit more. Then you start needing a better team that costs more to obtain and more to keep due to wages and trainees become a way to just maintain your team's strengh as opposed to growing. So some good management is needed to streamline and avoid the downward pressure. And the game has much of the other stuff you might expect, such as stadiums (which can be increased in size), supporters (your fan base), youth pulls, injuries, cards, prize money, etc. There's also national competitions like the U-20 and world cup, etc, where the players of a nation vote to elect the manager for their nation and he selects the team from actual available players. There's well-integrated message boards for all type of topics call "conferences", such as the USA conference, the newbie conference, and one for each series (your 8 team league). There's also user-created federations which are private or non-private interest groups with members and officers, for example, a winger-training federation, or a "I love Lional" federation (though I think the last one there has disbanded due to lack of interest). There's actually quite a few more nuances to learn, but that's why they made like 20+ pages of rules.
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| Kay of Sauvage | Jul 30 2006, 06:34 PM Post #3 |
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Bah! Is there no interest here in wasting your life away picking the perfect lineup!? |
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| Dagonet of Rus | Jul 30 2006, 07:49 PM Post #4 |
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registering atm - didn't get around to typing yesidohavetimeunfortunately till now |
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| Dinadan of Logris | Jul 30 2006, 10:20 PM Post #5 |
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If you have the time, play in our tourneys
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| Dagonet of Rus | Jul 31 2006, 04:13 AM Post #6 |
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oooh i forgot to patch jedi academy.. no id idn'.. need to sort out the registry keys. well, net been mostly stable last couple days with cooler weather in fact it's now been up i think 16hrs w/o a noticable problem.. but.. tbh.. i have no real desire to play any video games atm. been stuck infront of the pc for various other reasons enough at any rate.. and tourneys? well. we have maybe 8 or 9 peeps who would/can/will show p for games if some variables are met, not much need for a fuzzy-headed nublet to confuse things... |
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| Dinadan of Logris | Jul 31 2006, 08:31 PM Post #7 |
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You have JA nw? Let'splay thenm!!!!!!!!!! I'll ask yyou when i see you on xire nex tme.. I mostly play sieges now, but a few dzuels might be fun too
yure no more nooblet than most of RTk at tzeh ,momentz.......
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| Kay of Sauvage | Jul 31 2006, 10:41 PM Post #8 |
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I do believe this says you registered for a team. It's hard tell what these English people are saying sometimes... Can barely tell the english from the french and latin in the signature Anyway, did you get a team? If so, I can give ya some advice before you start blowing precious money away in an attempt to lose your team to debt :lol: |
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| Dagonet of Rus | Aug 1 2006, 07:44 AM Post #9 |
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yeah my team is bRown&SableTights or something similar, still haven't been 'authorised'.. and the game is down right now.. and: yesidohavetimeunfortunately was a reference to my not putting in the new 'other games' pw till then.. and ofcourse give advice as you want (feel free...) |
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| Kay of Sauvage | Aug 1 2006, 09:03 PM Post #10 |
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Well, for 1 thing, I would download the web browser FireFox. And then download this plugin called "Foxtrick" found here That'll give you a lot of helpful information, options, and external links to use to use while you are logged in to hattrick. For example, when you enter what you are looking for on the transfer list such as a 17 year old, solid defending, English born player, you can right click and save the search settings under a name that will appear intergrated into that page on the right side. So if you need to search again, you just click on that name and if fills in the page. If you look at a match that's been played, Foxtrick will give some stats and graphs and will highlight each teams' player names in a different color so reading the match report is easier. Anyway, more about the actual game... If you still haven't gotten your team, just read the rules a bit, especially chapter 14. There are some websites that give information on training, such as how long it takes to train one level of each type of training. If you can find those, it's a good starting point. For each type of training, it will train only people who play in certain positions, such as defending training only trains people who played a match in the defending line. So one of the first things you'll want to do is to aquire enough young players to fill as many of those training spots as possible. So for defending training, you will have 2 matches a week, and a maximum of 5 defenders in each game, so ideally, you would buy 10 of the best young defenders you can afford. Then you train them for a while and sell them for huge profit. These sites provide a lot of information. http://wiki.hattrick.org/Main_Page Check out the training section there also. Here's a post that laid out some stuff pretty well. Although instead of using an excel sheet, you can also download one of the many programs availble in the community>programs section of hattrick. Like I use Hattrick Organizer and I forget what the other one I use is (it's on my other computer). They download all your teams data for you, and data of your competitors, etc.
100 £ = 150 US$ You'll get a total of 300,000 to start after you complete the "license challenges" which are basically easy tasks put there to help you learn the game, such as setting orders for a match. You'll get about 20,000 a week from sponsors, and perhaps 20,000 every other week for your home league match, although that will increase very quickly. So convert that to your currency, and you'll know how much you'll have to work with initially. The season just ended, so it'll be 2 weeks of friendly matches only, then the league games will start again. Your teams stamina is gonna be pretty bad, so change your training from "general" which is the most useless training ever, to "stamina". I'd also change your intensity to 100%. Change your investment in the youth squad to zero. Your money right now has better uses, and your youth squad will be not produce anything useful for at leasts a few season even with the investment at maximum. On wednesday is the friendly match, so if you get your team today or early tomorrow, you can post in the "ads" section and request a friendly match, and in a few minutes, you'll start getting some requests from people to play a friendly game. Accept one and put in any old team, it won't affect anything if you win or lose. Though I'd advise you to not accept matches that will have you traveling internationally, or you'll pay $5000 to go, and the match income won't likely make up that amount. So to reiterate what you should be doing, just don't spend any money for now except to complete your license challenges. You could buy some trainees, but try to learn what you need and how training works. You can also ask questions in the newbie conference and get quick answers (though you need a team first). |
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| Kay of Sauvage | Aug 3 2006, 07:46 PM Post #11 |
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So did you get a team yet? I can't find a team with a similar name to the one you said. My team is T-Boners United. You can find it using the search function under the Tools menu. |
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| Kay of Sauvage | Aug 21 2006, 05:15 PM Post #12 |
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I'm supposing you gave up on the game, Dag? I must have talked you out of it :lol: |
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| Dagonet of Rus | Oct 10 2006, 07:45 AM Post #13 |
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ya "Your Hat-Trick team has been deleted" got caught up in nfl fantasy league, canon and midflight emotional turbulence :S actually enjoyed it tho, while i was playing, but je ne think i'll start another team. |
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