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Creation or Evolution?
Topic Started: Feb 7 2006, 06:44 PM (211 Views)
monkeyman
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which one do you supporT?
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sharingan_Kirby
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Evolution, because there are no flaws in the fossil record (incompleteness is not a flaw)
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Rambo
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Fossil records contain a large number of so-called "transition fossils", including fish with developing legs, reptile-bird hybrids (archaeopteryx), and human ancestors that weren't quite human, but not like our modern relatives either. Learn about evolution and the fossil record here, at "No Answers in Genesis":

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Arthur-N-Ly


both.
there is proof of evolution. jus look, cavemen, then theres humans as we kno it 2day(homosapians and w/e the hell u call the other 1's). also reptiles that hav evolved ovr the years and wut not. but, also, u gotta ask who made them in the first place? yes bacteria can form outta nowhere but if there was such thing as nothing in the "beggining" how cud somethin introduce itself wen nothing was evr around? who created bacteria or anything like that? kno wut i mean?
basically, without creation there wud be no evolution or anything.
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Introduction
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Evolution, that's what I believe in, just like about every educated person with some sense. It's quite flawless, maybe has more evidence than any other scientific theory.

It simply explains life so well, I think the theory is definitely one of the greatest advancements in our history.

And by the way, how can you say fossils are the primary evidence? It's just one small part of all the other evidence formed from phenomena only explainable with evolution.
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Cloud
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u think we evolved from lizards?
Welcome to the good life
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sesshomaru
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Just for the hell of it here is the definition of theory:
1. Theory
Definitions: Theory
Theory
Noun
1. A well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized
system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a
specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested
hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory".
2. A tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that
if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives
experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of
alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices".
3. A belief that can guide behavior; "the architect has a theory that more is less"; "they
killed him on the theory that dead men tell no tales".
Source: WordNet 1.7.1 Copyright © 2001 by Princeton University. All rights reserved.
Date "theory" was first used in popular English literature: sometime before 1321.
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Specialty Definitions: Theory
Domain Definitions
Computing Theory n. The consensus, idea, plan, story, or set of rules that is currently
being used to inform a behavior. This usage is a generalization and (deliberate) abuse
of the technical meaning. "What's the theory on fixing this TECO loss?" "What's the
theory on dinner tonight?" ("Chinatown, I guess.") "What's the current theory on letting
lusers on during the day?" "The theory behind this change is to fix the following well-
known screw....". Source: Jargon File.
Science An explanation for some phenomenon that is based on observation,
experimentation, and reasoning. (references)
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sesshomaru
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And the definition for belief:
2. Belief
Definitions: Belief
Belief
Noun
1. Any cognitive content held as true.
2. A religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof.
3. A vague idea in which some confidence is placed; "his impression of her was
favorable"; "what are your feelings about the crisis?"; "it strengthened my belief in his
sincerity"; "I had a feeling that she was lying".
Source: WordNet 1.7.1 Copyright © 2001 by Princeton University. All rights reserved.
Date "belief" was first used in popular English literature: sometime before 1010.
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Synonyms: Belief
Synonyms: dogma (n), feeling (n), impression (n), notion (n), opinion (n), tenet (n).
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Antonym: unbelief (n). (additional references)
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Specialty Definition: Belief
(From Wikipedia, the free Encyclopedia)
Belief as an English word has been used in various ways. In religious contexts it means
"faith," whereas in philosophy, cognitive psychology, and most ordinary contexts,
"belief" means something broader: something like "accept as true." (Analytic
philosophers actually sometimes distinguish belief from acceptance, however.)
Accounts of belief also depend on the object of belief. While usually propositions are
taken to be the objects of belief, we sometimes also speak of "believing in" a deity
(accepting that the deity exists), a person (trusting in the person's reliability), and a
cause (supporting a particular value-laden, e.g., political, system of beliefs).
In religious contexts, the word is often restricted to mean religious beliefs, and in such
cases the use of the word often implies that what is believed cannot be justified
conclusively, but still holds personal and/or social value as valid. See faith and faith
and rationality.
In philosophy, historically, attempts to analyze the nature of belief have been
couched in terms of judgment (this does not imply "value judgment," however--it
means any sort of judgment). David Hume and Immanuel Kant are both particularly
well-known for their theories of belief and judgment.
Some beliefs can be propositional knowledge.
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Mike Modano
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Lets start with disproving the very thing which evolution depends on, that the earth is millions of millions of years old(note this also disproves big bang theory, two birds with one stone)

Now, all modern text books say that the earth is billions of years old. Well this is not true. Now before I use any other facts I will start off with this little bit disproving the big bang.

Disproving the big bang theory
1.There is a law which states that when an object is spinning and something flies off of it ,it will be spinning in the same direction as the object from which it spun.

Now when every piece of matter was condensed into the singularity they were spinning, now why is it that everything ,even several examples in out own solar system, do not spin the same way.

2.Also according to the big bang theory all the planets and moons should be cooled off and stuff then why is is that a moon(jupitar or saturn can't remember the name right now) with no atmosphere still has volcanoes more active than those on earth. Hm... geeze, I wonder.

Anyway moving on to disproving Evolution itself.

1.Its is claimed that the tonsils are unneccesary organs which you can live without, and that we have evolved beyond it's use, and that you can live without it, well you can live without an arm but that doesn't mean we've evolved beyond it.

It is also said that the human has an unnessesary tail bone. Well whoever said this doesn't know their biology that well, because I know for a fact that there are several very important muscles attached to that bone and without that anchor point for those muscels you wouldn't be able to do some very important functions.

2. One thing used in many modern text books is the whale. There is a group of bones which they say are the remains of leg muscels which the whale used to have until it evolved into its current state. Well whoever makes this claim is either one of the following:

1. Doesn't know his whale biology and isn't qualified to make that statement which is widely used by the way

or

2. Is just trying to INVENT evidence for his belief(all "evidence for evolution is inveted by the way).

So there goes several of the many examples for evolution.

I'll have to finish my arguments later(I have many more) because 1. I'm tired and 2. I need to arange them in better order so they'll make senes and to keep me from hoping between subjects and making it confusing and well it'll just be clearer so I'll post them later.
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Magneto
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definetly creation
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