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Illegal Immigration
Topic Started: Mar 31 2006, 05:32 PM (113 Views)
Kurosaki Ichigo
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Specifically, I want to ask Americans (and since there was a Mexican citizen when I left, him too) what they think about the illegal immigration issue. I don't want a poll, I want some ideas; I'm not completely set myself and I want to know more about it (that doesn't mean I won't be arguing, like normal). So, let's hear it; is it alright, bad, horrible, what kind of punishments and deterrants hould there be, etc?

My personal view (BTW, please don't just debate my view; I want to hear other solutions and such as well); well, for one thing, it's quite clearly illegal. Sneaking onto land without permission is called "trespassing" and is a crime, and despite the protester's claims, that makes them, by definition, criminals. Assisting in a crime is also a crime, if done knowingly, so anyone who sneaks them across is also a criminal. I personally very much dislike the taking of jobs, and of the drain on tax funds. Of course, anyone who knows me knows hlf my solution; get rid of anything tax supported that they could drain, like public schools. Besides that, the job issue is important, and I think Bush is flat-out lying when he said that immigrant only take jobs americans won't do; americans will do most any job. Problem is is that business doesn't want to PAY accordingly. Bush is really saying "Illegal immigrants do work that my cheap bastard friends won't pay enough for americans to do". However, exactly what kind of punishments and deterrants should be employed is something I don't have a good answer for yet.

Alright; go.
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Besides that, the job issue is important, and I think Bush is flat-out lying when he said that immigrant only take jobs americans won't do; americans will do most any job. Problem is is that business doesn't want to PAY accordingly.




While true, let's look at this realistically:

You are a mexican orange picker living illegally in Florida. You pick oranges all day for 50 cents an hour. Orange juice costs you $3 at the store. You are fired because you are an illegal immigrant.

The Orange Juice Company raised it's wages to minimum wage (roughly ten times what they were paying) to hire an American teenager. Orange juice is more expensive to make, and the price needs to rise to make a profit. Orange juice costs you $10 at the store.
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Well, if its that big of a problem.Close off the damn border. Do what the Israeilis did with the gaza strip and the Wesy Bank. Fence off any points of entry that the other people might have unto your land. That way you can monitor all those who cross the border and you won't have illegal criminals. Simple.
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People are just imtimidated by the fact that Hispanics are clearly out numbering every single Miniority in the US. And Pretty soon, whites will be miniorities. :D
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apparently USA is thinking of building a wall similar to the berlin wall which seperated east/west germany.

If they do that, it'll cause a lot of hatred and tension. Also USA is complaining of illegal immigration from Canada.
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lol what is USA on??! why would they build a wall
I thought illegal immigration boosted profits
but they're so patriotic and shit
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Dark Angel
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well im a us citizen but my entire family is in the process of becoming citizens. and heres my opinion. first off bush needs to go f-himself cuz he has no idea what hes doing. secondly, the us depends on immigrants. without them, the population would be cut in like half. and if my entire family is sent away, well, what will happen to me, im 15, how am i to live? and you know what i think is funny, my family has been living in the US for 16 years and having been in the line to get citizenship for 16 years. what astonishes me, is the fact, that they havent even done so yet.


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Mike Modano
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we should just build more outposts :)
problem solved
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Neji
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3 ways to stop illegal immigration

- Increase security at the border tenfold (no wall)

- Persecute the businesses who hire illegals (not the illegals). Work is probably the main reason illegals migrate. No more work, and even the ones here will migrate back/apply for residency.

- Improve the immigration process (it is currently ridiculous).
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Uzumaki Naruto
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lol at #3
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