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| taz3r | May 6 2008, 05:40 PM Post #1 |
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There's a lot of talk about it, especially on big broadcasting programs like CNN. The question is if GTA should receive an ESRB rating of Ao (Adult) rather then M (Mature.) The change in rating will result in the game being pulled off all big store chains because of the new rating. |
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| Nemesis | May 6 2008, 05:58 PM Post #2 |
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no, it will be fuckin retarded that way. get the fuck over it jesus fuck. fuckin liberal dumb fuck, it still going to find its way to the kids cause KIDS WANT THE</ |
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| PriestMan | May 6 2008, 07:49 PM Post #3 |
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Why would it be rated anything but M? That's completely irrational and would surely show how weak the ESRB really is, because they had enough time to decide to change it beforehand. And it's a little late. I'm sure most of the 360/PS3 owners who wanted this game, have it, are playing through it, and enjoying it. Let's also be brutally honest here, a vast majority of parents don't give a shit. I have not encountered any parent that has turned down buying a game rated M yet at my job (a full year now). Only a few, but that's because their kids were like under 10. |
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| meowmixmaster | May 6 2008, 08:39 PM Post #4 |
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I think ESRB only made this game rated M was because they were pressured to do so. Take Two must've paid them off somehow or ESRB may have got a small percentage of the revenue the GTA is making. This game has all the necessary content to be rated Adult only and let's be honest; this game shouldn't have the M rating. But whatever, it's rated M and a lot of people have their hands on this game. It's too late to change anything. |
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| AuToFiRE | May 7 2008, 01:19 AM Post #5 |
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ok, well since they wont sell M rated games to minros why not sell Ao games in stores and only sell them to 18+? you know its the stupidest thing ever |
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| PriestMan | May 7 2008, 07:22 AM Post #6 |
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What content really makes it AO? The only thing that can ever make a game AO is pretty much full nudity from what I know. Excessive swearing, violence, or drug/alcohol usually always is settled at the M rating. And it's not really the stores that are against it (even though some are), it's the fact the major companies, Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, don't want a AO game in their hands. Remember the Manhunt 2 thing? That went over like a lead balloon before Rockstar brought it down to a M rating. |
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| meowmixmaster | May 7 2008, 09:35 AM Post #7 |
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Lap dances, prostituion, sexual content like having oral sex (of course it's blurred out) all lead to an Ao rating. If it was just violence and drugs related then GTA is just like any other sandbox game out there and no one could care less. But the fact that you can walk into strip clubs and do what you want is really pushing the game passed it's M rating. |
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| Shaheer | May 7 2008, 09:46 AM Post #8 |
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It's rated M which still means that only people above the age of 17 can purchase the game. An Adult Rating only means that the game is intended for adults over the age of 18+ and the fact that it will be taken off shelves and can only be bought at select stores. Like Meowmixmaster said, it's too late to do anything because so many people have the games in their hand. After playing the game thoroughly, I can confirm that the game should not be in the posession of anyone under the age of 17. There's quite a bit of unethical and immoral activities/actions that Niko can do that really shouldn't be subjugated to Teens under the age of 17. Let's face it; you can mindlessly walk into a Strip Club and ask for a lap dance and watch girls make out. You also can pick up hookers and beat them down afterwards and go on a killing spree and kill cops. While most of this was evident in the past GTA games, the graphics have taken a huge leap forward and now gamers are immersed in a surreal reality that will have a greater impact on them. i don't know if the game should get an Ao rating or not, but one thing for certain is that retailers need to exercise the ESRB rating a lot more and start denying the game to younger kids. Asking for ID will easily solve this problem; otherwise it's like selling Alcohol to a 13 year old at a liquour store. Also parents should be aware of this game and what it entails, so they have to do their part. |
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| AuToFiRE | May 7 2008, 10:46 AM Post #9 |
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but people are taking the ESRB TOO SERIOUSLY its meant for use from a parental point of view in helping them with choosing a game for their 3 year old child, iuts not the ESRB or the major companies or retailers to do the parenting for the adults, i say if a kid wants an M rated game id sell it to them because its the parents job to watch over their children |
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| Shaheer | May 7 2008, 11:04 AM Post #10 |
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i say if a kid wants an M rated game id sell it to them because its the parents job to watch over their children Then whats the point of having an ESRB rating? The rating is there to ensure that guidelines are meant for games. Also, a lot of parents have no clue what their children are buying because of them working or simply not caring at all. Of course, there should be some influence that a parent has over their child when it comes to gaming but not all parents can be supervising their cihld at all times. The ESRB is there to actually prevent younger people from buying games that are meant for an older audience. It's like a 13 year old walking into a porn store and buying adult dvd's. that's the equivalent of a 13 year old walking into a walmart/best buy and buying Grand Theft Auto. |
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| Neji | May 7 2008, 11:07 AM Post #11 |
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It's like a 13 year old walking into a porn store and buying adult dvd's. that's the equivalent of a 13 year old walking into a walmart/best buy and buying Grand Theft Auto. Ok, that's true I guess. But it's actually the stores fault for selling games to minors. It's the responsibility of the store clerk to ask for ID if they are selling M rated games to a Minor. Let's not just include GTA but rather all the M rated games out there. I think stricter laws need to be enforced for selling games to younger kids because there's too many people walking out of the store with an M rated game in their hand. That's wrong. I kinda agree with what Shaheer is saying; in that it's the equivalent of buying alcohol at a young age without being ID. But I also agree with Autofire that that there's too much pressure on the ESRB. They are only meant for guidelines but the Parents and Stores are the main determanents of who should be playing what game. |
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| AuToFiRE | May 7 2008, 11:09 AM Post #12 |
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i mean like if they send the kid in to get whatever game they want and they want an M rated game, well give it to them, its the parents stupidity, and the ESRB is meant for helping parents know whats in a game, well to me games are an art form, they dont censor art, art is a creative expression, and so are games, i remember a time before the ESRB, games were more fun, look at mario, pac man, duck hunt, these were all pre-ESRB games, the ESRB is almost challenging developers |
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| PriestMan | May 7 2008, 11:58 AM Post #13 |
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There's no real evidence to prove whether graphical change in a game will influence how the kids react to situations presented in the game to real life. You'd have to go through every child and observe their behaviors before, during, and after they play the game in question. We can only assume, but we can't base this off anything else at the moment. Because everyone is affected by video games differently, it's difficult to generalize. And can games really be compared to pornography or alcohol? I would imagine the consequences for either of those actions would scale a lot higher up on parent's list, which probably says something about why they let their kids play M rated games instead. The main idea is there though: We don't want kids playing Mature games unless they understand and acknowledge the fact that the game is just a game. I'm currently reading Grand Theft Childhood and one of the chapters focuses solely on the ESRB. I haven't read through it yet, but as soon as I do, I'll be sure to add what I find. I can say though, with a game like GTA, clerks should always be checking IDs. It's their responsibility to let a parent know what they kid(s) are buying, because let's face it. Parents don't read reviews, they look at the title, box art, and rating. |
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| AuToFiRE | May 7 2008, 12:31 PM Post #14 |
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ive been playing violent video games my entire life, and look how i turned out, posting on SBS, like any other typical teen |
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| Neji | May 7 2008, 12:32 PM Post #15 |
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And can games really be compared to pornography or alcohol? In the means of acquiring them, yes. I think it's a fair assessment that to compare games with alcohol if they follow the same requirements. You need to be 18 or older to buy Alcohol You need to be 18 or older to buy an M rated game It's very rare if not almost non existant seeing someone younger then the age of 18 buying alcohol. The reason is because the person who is selling it, also is responsible to the people they sell it to. It's common that a person who's younger then 18 will buy a M rated game? It's because the person who's selling it to the minor couldn't care less. Jack Thompson said on CNN that selling games to a minor is a considerable offense but I see nothing like that (aside from that 1 gamestop story) that employees get fired for doing anything like that. So really, I think it has to do with the employees and the employers who don't do their part in checking ID's. Stricter laws need to be reinforced and emphasized, similar to how only certain people can buy alcohol. And if you QQ so much, then just get someone older then you to buy the game for you. in fact, that's what most kids should do in teh first place. Get their parents to buy the game for them. Then, in that case the whole blame can be put on the parents if the kid goes haywire or is impressioned easily. |
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