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Forgiveness
Topic Started: Apr 3 2014, 09:26 PM (294 Views)
Tico
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Praise God for forgiveness.

You’d be surprised at the things that need forgiving. If you really think about it. ^_^
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Perhaps there would be less to forgive if we spent less time...thinking about things. Sometimes we over think things...I think.

But agreed: praise God when He moves us to forgive.

God bless.

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Apr 4 2014, 05:51 AM
Perhaps there would be less to forgive if we spent less time...thinking about things. Sometimes we over think things...I think.

But agreed: praise God when He moves us to forgive.

God bless.

Probably the worse thing one could do is to ignore the tugging on the conscience. The secular world has declared war on guilt, and if the so called professed Christians actually had guilt for the sins they commit the world would probably be a better place. But on that subject I don't believe we or anybody can change the world, but they can only be called out of it. The world is what the world is by its very definition. The only thing people can do about it is to feel good about being at enmity with God.

I don't believe we should live in guilt to a point, but guilt is warranted and good for some...... But, through the blood of Christ, God has been gracious to "cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God" (Hebrews 9:14). I am appalled by the hypocrisy of professed Christians I meet, and this is something rather common place. These people have no problem saying they are Christian while living with their "partner" while being unmarried, or committing sinful acts without hesitation because the secular world has stamped its approval on it.

One woman I know is the epidamy of this hypocrisy when using God's name in vain. Another who thinks Scripture is not the final authority because if it were she would not be allowed to serve as an elder in church just hinges on ludicracy. My point being is that I hear a lot of people talk about the Holy Spirit and spiritual gifts, but I see no evidence of the workings of the Holy Spirit in their lives in regards to sanctification. But it's not women alone, I know a guy too that declares himself a Christian yet has a "****" buddy to satisfy his sexual pleasures. It's just absurd to even think of these people who have no shame as Christians.

Why ask for forgiveness if one does not repent? How can one expect to be forgiven if one does not repent? Beats me...

I think the best thing comes with time, Ranger. When one does have a chance to review their life and think about the deeds they have done or not done. Lord knows some will have all eternity to sit with nothing more than their conscience and the judgment thereof.


Some people are as disillusioned into believing that they are children of God as much as they are disillusioned into believing that they are forgiven. Guess we owe those great "Pastors" like Joel Osteen for that... oh the sarcasm!
Edited by Shim, Apr 4 2014, 12:06 PM.
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Apr 4 2014, 05:51 AM
Perhaps there would be less to forgive if we spent less time...thinking about things. Sometimes we over think things...I think.

But agreed: praise God when He moves us to forgive.

God bless.

There would be less to forgive is we were more thoughtful. B-)
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Apr 4 2014, 11:56 AM
Probably the worse thing one could do is to ignore the tugging on the conscience.
To ignore is to run. -_-
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Apr 4 2014, 05:51 AM
Perhaps there would be less to forgive if we spent less time...thinking about things. Sometimes we over think things...I think.

But agreed: praise God when He moves us to forgive.

God bless.

Probably the worse thing one could do is to ignore the tugging on the conscience. The secular world has declared war on guilt, and if the so called professed Christians actually had guilt for the sins they commit the world would probably be a better place. But on that subject I don't believe we or anybody can change the world, but they can only be called out of it. The world is what the world is by its very definition. The only thing people can do about it is to feel good about being at enmity with God.

I don't believe we should live in guilt to a point, but guilt is warranted and good for some...... But, through the blood of Christ, God has been gracious to "cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God" (Hebrews 9:14). I am appalled by the hypocrisy of professed Christians I meet, and this is something rather common place. These people have no problem saying they are Christian while living with their "partner" while being unmarried, or committing sinful acts without hesitation because the secular world has stamped its approval on it.

One woman I know is the epidamy of this hypocrisy when using God's name in vain. Another who thinks Scripture is not the final authority because if it were she would not be allowed to serve as an elder in church just hinges on ludicracy. My point being is that I hear a lot of people talk about the Holy Spirit and spiritual gifts, but I see no evidence of the workings of the Holy Spirit in their lives in regards to sanctification. But it's not women alone, I know a guy too that declares himself a Christian yet has a "****" buddy to satisfy his sexual pleasures. It's just absurd to even think of these people who have no shame as Christians.

Why ask for forgiveness if one does not repent? How can one expect to be forgiven if one does not repent? Beats me...

I think the best thing comes with time, Ranger. When one does have a chance to review their life and think about the deeds they have done or not done. Lord knows some will have all eternity to sit with nothing more than their conscience and the judgment thereof.


Some people are as disillusioned into believing that they are children of God as much as they are disillusioned into believing that they are forgiven. Guess we owe those great "Pastors" like Joel Osteen for that... oh the sarcasm!
I think we have a couple different things we could discuss when we consider the OP and the examples you give, brother. The first being that which I was referring to in which case in view is dwelling on a wrong we have perceived to have been committed against us. As Christians we should ever keep in mind that God for Christ's sake has forgiven us and that should temper our own feelings towards others in that we have not resisted unto blood, or in other words, that committed against us is trivial compared to the suffering of Christ, and if He can forgive such great sin against His Holy Person, how much more should we forgive. But sometimes we dwell on the offense until it eats at us like a canker.

The opposite is true also in some cases, such as not thinking enough: in the case of the woman using the Lord's name in vain, sounds as though she doesn't know any better. In other words she hasn't given it enough thought. Many that I work around use foul language and I do not see it all as they purposefully seek to be foul, but it is just part of their speech pattern which they have trained themselves in. When someone on a job uses "Jesus Christ!" as an expletive, I will ask them, "whatcha praying about?" lol, and usually that's the last time I hear them say it.

The last example is again I think another case of over thinking a matter. I think most of us have at some point reasoned away sin in our lives. Such sin as this is severe and might well cause us to question this fellow's salvation but we should never think a Christian is impervious to such sin. Particularly a new believer. Without proper discipleship it is easy for the unlearned believer to over-think sin and rationalize it not to be sin. Which is different than ignorance. It is human nature that we consider our own actions as not as bad as the other guy's. We can put on blinders to sin in our lives and I think to one extent or another we all do that. That is why Bible study and Christian fellowship are important to us as it raises both knowledge of sin as well as accountability.

God bless.
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Apr 4 2014, 08:03 PM
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Apr 4 2014, 05:51 AM
Perhaps there would be less to forgive if we spent less time...thinking about things. Sometimes we over think things...I think.

But agreed: praise God when He moves us to forgive.

God bless.

There would be less to forgive is we were more thoughtful. B-)
And how are you doing in that department? :)

Sometimes I struggle.

God bless.
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Apr 5 2014, 06:38 AM
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Apr 4 2014, 08:03 PM
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Apr 4 2014, 05:51 AM
Perhaps there would be less to forgive if we spent less time...thinking about things. Sometimes we over think things...I think.

But agreed: praise God when He moves us to forgive.

God bless.

There would be less to forgive is we were more thoughtful. B-)
And how are you doing in that department? :)

Sometimes I struggle.

God bless.
Horrible :X On the bright-side I certainly appreciate forgiveness!
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Me too!
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