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Let me tell you a story. A story of love and lies.
Enjoy/Sorry.
Message Title: I love you - SnakeWrangler
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 12 2014, 11:49 PM Forward Hey, I'm the lover in Brokendome. I picked you since I feel like the killer is likely to target people like Jessi first, and I want to be with someone that I think won't die early.
SnakeWrangler · Jan 13 2014, 05:03 AM Report Post Forward Oh cool that's some good thinking
I hope
I'll trust you. I'm the Lyncher and Hyp is my target.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 07:04 AM Forward Hmm, if both of us push for a lynch of the same guy, it could either look really sketchy or everyone will go for it. If either of us makes it look like a random lynch, they'll call us out as the Lyncher. I'll think more about this during school.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 03:40 PM Forward Okay, I think I've got a strategy here. Get ready to lose your shit.
What I've done is I've PMed five other players, saying that I'm the lover and targeting them. Depending on what they say their role is, I'll come up with a reason why it would be beneficial to them to random lynch. At the start of day 1, I'll pretend-random lynch on Hyp. With you, me, and five others, we'll control the lynch without even needing anyone else.
Don't acknowledge them, but the players I messaged are Airborne, Storm, Jimmbo, Krugo, and Shock, providing the same reason I gave you.
If this goes horribly wrong, I'm sorry.
SnakeWrangler · Jan 13 2014, 04:01 PM Report Post Forward Hey, no fun without risks. I love it.
- Airborne64
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 03:09 PM Forward Hey, I'm the lover in Brokendome. I picked you since I feel like the killer is likely to target people like Jessi or Snow first, and I want to be with someone that I think won't die early.
Airborne64 · Jan 13 2014, 03:41 PM Report Post Forward That was the best name for a PM ever, by the way. I'm the prophet, and I chose day 6.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 08:28 PM Forward Day 6, huh? Gonna have to keep some people in check for a long time, then.
We also have to go a long time with neither of us dying. Therefore, I feel it would be best to be the ones who start our lynches. What we can do is "Pretend RL" someone. I'd suggest someone who won't defend themselves as well as, say, Snow. My suggestion is Hyp, since he seems to be one of the "Let's not do much discussion" type of guys.
I won't be around when the day starts, but if you are, it would be great if you could lead a lynch on Hyp early, before anyone else starts a lynch of their own.
Airborne64 · Jan 13 2014, 09:11 PM Report Post Forward Alright, sounds good.
- StormBuster
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 03:35 PM Forward Hey, I'm the lover in Brokendome. I picked you since I feel like the killer is likely to target people like Jessi or Snow first, and I want to be with someone that I think won't die early.
StormBuster · Jan 13 2014, 05:24 PM Report Post Forward Depends on who the Killer is honestly. I think in general there is a good chance I could survive for a while but it has recently come to people's attention that I kind of do well at these so we'll see :p
Siren here, joint win should still be viable. Selected PSN this phase so we'll see how that works out.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 08:30 PM Forward Alright. I can't really help a Siren much, but if there's someone I suspect as a certain role, I'll let you know.
- Krugo
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 03:10 PM Forward Hey, I'm the lover in Brokendome. I picked you since I feel like the killer is likely to target people like Jessi or Snow first, and I want to be with someone that I think won't die early.
Krugo · Jan 13 2014, 07:10 PM Report Post Forward I'm honored! My job is protct Hyp until the end of the game (Angel), if you were curious.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 08:31 PM Forward A team of three, nice! Of course, if one of us dies, we all die. Unless you die, then Hyp is still alive. Unfortunately, my win condition is to keep you alive, so I don't know if I can help much.
Krugo · Jan 13 2014, 08:39 PM Report Post Forward It's all good. I don't think Hyp would die if you died, and vice versa. But still, we'll just have to wait and see.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 08:53 PM Forward Oh right, didn't think of that. But if Hyp dies, you die, and I die as a result. Hyp won't die from either of our deaths, but we both die if any of us three dies.
Also, has Hyp told you who he is? Because, for example, if Hyp is the killer, it becomes impossible for me to joint win with him, surprisingly. Since he needs to be one of the last two standing, and I need you and me alive, and you need Hyp alive, Hyp can't win without killing one of us.
Just throwing it out there, but we could technically work without Hyp. If our goals are to keep a player alive, we could technically work to end the game as soon as possible, fulfilling our goals in a more indirect way. Of course, a three-way joint is still good.
Krugo · Jan 13 2014, 09:30 PM Report Post Forward I haven't contacted him yet, but I will soon.
- Shockmuffin
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 03:09 PM Forward Hey, I'm the lover in Brokendome. I picked you since I feel like the killer is likely to target people like Jessi or Snow first, and I want to be with someone that I think won't die early.
- Jimmbo
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 03:08 PM Forward Hey, I'm the lover in Brokendome. I picked you since I feel like the killer is likely to target people like Jessi or Snow first, and I want to be with someone that I think won't die early.
- SnakeWrangler
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 13 2014, 08:31 PM Forward Here's what people have told me.
Airborne: Prophet, chose Day 6 -Probably the best person I could have gotten.
Storm: Siren, chose PSN tonight -Not too bad. I can manipulate this one, if needed.
Krugo: Angel, protecting Hyp -...Shit. This is probably the worst result I could have gotten, aside from an Angel on another one I'd claimed to. Now, I can't possibly start or even help a lynch on Hyp. I have to convince one of the others to lead the lynch.
Right now, I'll suggest to Airborne that we should lead our own lynches for our survival. I've suggested Hyp, with the reason being "He can't defend himself as well as people like Snow."
I'll lead Storm on a wild goose chase for a while if necessary. Like, suggesting players who can't visit to him.
As for Krugo, I'll try to be friendly, but I really can't do anything about him.
The other two still haven't spoken up.
- Shockmuffin
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Shockmuffin · Jan 14 2014, 03:30 AM Report Post Forward Hey, I'm probably a safer pick although since the killer targeted airborne they may be going after the people targeted less since quite a few roles will be targeting them. I'll hold off telling you my role just yet as I'm waiting for Blood to confirm if I get told you're my lover. If you did pick me do you think it's worth you claiming to someone else that you targeted them? Since there'd be no confirmation they'd just have to trust you and will try to stop you getting killed. They'd also tell you their role which could help us work out who to try and lynch.
Shockmuffin · Jan 14 2014, 05:16 AM Report Post Forward So with confirmation from Blood that you would get told if the lover picked you then I'm starting to think that you haven't picked me and you're just doing what I suggested.
- SnakeWrangler
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SnakeWrangler · Jan 14 2014, 05:09 AM Report Post Forward ...Huh. That's Airborne out of the way. Would it be worth it claiming to PSN if nobody CC's? Although it might look a bit sketchy...
Plus I got a PM from Blood saying that I was in love. So keep that on the down-low.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 07:15 AM Forward So Shock asked Blood if you get told you have a Lover. Which means he knows I lied to him. And as you can see, Airborne lied, which makes sense because Fool. Not sure how truthful the others are, but I'll play along.
Why would we ever claim to anyone, we have different goals than him.
SnakeWrangler · Jan 14 2014, 02:44 PM Report Post Forward Because it's easy to joint with the prophet. We could possibly stall it to Day 4- plus we'll have another supporter.
- Shockmuffin
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 03:15 PM Forward Alright, you got me. Here's the deal, though. I don't care who wins, as long as the game ends before my real target dies. Aside from my actual target, I've set this up with five other players with the intent of ending the game early. Depending on who you are, I can set you up for victory by manipulating them. I've already tried to do so with my real target, but I've determined that their win condition is far out of reach. You see, my actual target is the Lyncher. One of the people I lied to is an Angel... On the same player as my Lyncher. I can't lead or even vote in a lynch for that guy, or my Angel will see right through me.
So, what do you say? I manipulate the people who fell for my trap to set up a win for you and the resulting win for me. You in?
Shockmuffin · Jan 14 2014, 03:43 PM Report Post Forward Sure I'm happy to avoid trying to lynch anyone you don't want. Can you tell me the roles you're in contact with? I'd rather not give my role away untill I know which you're in contact with. (even though I stand almost zero chance)
- SnakeWrangler
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 03:23 PM Forward But the thing is that if we try something that looks game-ending before Day 4, PSN won't fall for it. And there's always the chance that PSN is lying to simply avoid death.
Anyway, I'm discussing the situation with Shock, to try and get him on our side. Since he knows I lied to him, I told him that I lied to a few others to get control of the game. I didn't say who anyone was at all.
SnakeWrangler · Jan 14 2014, 03:57 PM Report Post Forward Is saying that to Shock that good of an idea? He may reveal that you have been lying...
Also, that's why I said we can potentially stall out the lynch until Day 4 in accordance with PSN.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 04:30 PM The thing is, I need to tell him this so he doesn't out me in-thread. If he does, I'm screwed, and you're screwed. Shock seems to be on board so far, but he won't reveal himself until I give him a little more info. I'm currently going off the assumption that he is the killer, because that's the only one we can't joint with. If I get a little too much proof that he is, I'll send him after Storm, who is our Siren, and send Storm after him.
In regards to PSN: The longer we wait, the greater chance the Killer will get either of us or Hyp. Alongside that, the longer we wait, the less influence I have on the game, since people will be dying. I say we go for it early.
The only problem, once again, is our Angel. I can't possibly lead or even vote a lynch on Hyp, because I can't possibly explain that to Krugo, since he believes that if Hyp dies, both he and I die. The only person I can get to lead a Lynch is Storm, but having a Siren around is just too useful to us, since we can get rid of any visiting role with no suspicion.
Still no word from Jimmbo, by the way.
SnakeWrangler · Jan 14 2014, 09:18 PM Report Post Forward Fair enough. Just remember that we have one free kill for the Siren before they win. And yeah, I was worried that stalling would leave us too open. Just bringing up possibilities.
- Shockmuffin
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 04:29 PM Forward I'm still not 100% sure I can trust you yet due to the existence of roles that I can't possibly joint with, such as the Killer. But here are a few freebies to get you on board. I'll tell you more once we've established further trust.
First of all, Airborne told me he was a Prophet, choosing Day 6. I immediately dropped the idea of jointing with him, because there's no way I'm stalling until Day 6. Instead, I opted to tell him to start a lynch on the guy my Lyncher is after. Of course, he was the Fool, as we can see in the thread. Makes sense that he would lie, seeing as my goal would be the opposite of his, were I actually targeting him.
Next, Krugo is the Angel. I can't do much regarding an Angel, but he isn't impeding on anyone's progress except for the Killer, who I can't joint with, and the Lyncher, who I've given up on.
Another person I've contacted is Jimmbo, but he hasn't responded at all yet. Actually, he hasn't said much in any games, as far as I've seen.
Once I know you can be trusted, I'll throw in some more info and we can get into the fun part.
- Krugo
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 06:19 PM Forward Has Hyp spoken up yet? I'd really like to start planning how we're going to win this.
Krugo · Jan 14 2014, 07:41 PM Report Post Forward He has, but I haven't told him who you are for safety reasons. But somehow, he did find out that Letter is the Anarchist, and he asked if my companion could lead a "RL" against him.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 07:48 PM Forward Wait. Somehow? I don't follow. There isn't a single investigative role in this game. How could he have found out?
Krugo · Jan 14 2014, 07:49 PM Report Post Forward I think he just Pm'd him (or vice versa), and they claimed to each other.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 08:00 PM Forward Wh-
They just claimed to each other?
And Letter admitted that he was the Anarchist, which is probably the most hated role in the game?
Sorry, but I'm not sure Hyp is telling the whole truth here. I wouldn't know why, but something seems off. I don't think Letter is dumb enough to say "Hey I'm the Anarchist wanna go for a joint win." Especially since the Anarchist is pretty tough to joint with.
Krugo · Jan 14 2014, 08:12 PM Report Post Forward I agree that it's highly suspicious, but Letter isn't you, me or Hyp, so I figured it shouldn't matter too much. But if you want to abstain for a bit, I can ask him how he got the information and such.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 08:18 PM Forward I would like to know, yes. While your logic is sound, there's still one problem.
Whoever starts a lynch will be immediately suspected at the Lyncher. If that happens to any of us, we're in trouble.
Krugo · Jan 14 2014, 08:25 PM Report Post Forward Maybe, but somebody will undoubtedly suggest a lynch before us if we don't. Unless the Killer is specifically aiming to kill the Lyncher, then I don't think there should be a problem.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 08:41 PM Forward The killer going after the Lyncher actually makes a lot of sense, if you think about it.
And again, if someone starts a lynch before us, they are under immediate suspicion as the Lyncher. Nobody can safely start a lynch like that. If it looks like an RL, people will be afraid of a Lyncher win, and if it doesn't look like an RL, people will suspect that you are the Lyncher.
That said, you feel you can defend yourself, you can start the lynch and I can back it up immediately after. I don't think I'll be active enough to defend myself tonight or tomorrow if I am suspected, and defending yourself is a lot easier than defending someone else, as you can chalk it up to "Oh, I forgot there was a Lyncher still." I could too, but if someone suspects me as Lyncher after I've gone to bed, I can't defend myself until after I get back from school, when there's only nine hours left in the day phase.
Krugo · Jan 14 2014, 09:02 PM Report Post Forward I'm still waiting on a response from Hyp, but these are all good points. I'll let him know of these concerns.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 09:58 PM Forward Just so you know, I have to go to bed in the next thirty minutes. It's a lot easier to push a lynch when someone else is backing it up before someone questions it, but I can't do that right away. Granted, someone else might follow your lead either way, and then we'll be in business.
I'll leave it to your decision. If you're confident nobody else will start a lynch, we can wait until tomorrow. We have more than 24 hours left.
Krugo · Jan 14 2014, 10:11 PM Report Post Forward Let's do that for now. I don't want to screw ourselves for no reason.
- Jimmbo
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 14 2014, 07:25 PM Forward You there? I'd really like to start planning how we'll win this.
- Shockmuffin
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Zaazaa0 · Jan 15 2014, 07:15 AM Forward Oh, that works well. I got an anonymous tip from Krugo that Letter might be Anarchist. I've asked how he knew that, but he doesn't know, because he got it from the guy he's protecting. Since it seems safe, we're going to lead a lynch on him. I'm literally going to school right now, but if you have time, you could start it.
Also, who have you probed? I can help make sure they don't die.
Shockmuffin · Jan 15 2014, 08:01 AM Report Post Forward I'm letting you lead it as if Krugo mentioned letter being the anarchist and I then mentioned it it would seem really wieerd.
- StormBuster
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StormBuster · Jan 17 2014, 02:56 PM Report Post Forward Alright, so I've been a little absentminded from this the last couple of days I apologize for that. Have you been in discussion with PSN at all? No reason we shouldn't be able to joint win with them as far as I can tell, barring one of us being the Lyncher's target or something.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 17 2014, 04:41 PM Forward I am in contact with PSN. I've been seeing if he can find a way to get us into their joint-win.
I'll let you know when more details come out.
Zaazaa0 · Jan 21 2014, 03:11 PM Forward So if you haven't been reading the thread, here's what's been happening.
I've been lynched, but apparently I was monked. I don't know if PSN was planning this or not, but since discussions involving monks were in the thread, I'm assuming his plan is to have the Lyncher and Monk win at the same time. Unfortunately, this doesn't include us in their win at all, so we're on our own.
However, I do have one bit of info, but I'm not sure how useful it will be. Look into Shock tonight. I think he's the Alien, but PSN could have been lying.
At this point, we don't have much of a chance, but we can't give up just yet.
StormBuster · Jan 21 2014, 03:12 PM Report Post Forward Alright, not going to lie I was a bit confused about what was going on there. Alright sure, I'll target Shock tonight and whatever happens happens.
StormBuster · Today, 3:06 AM Report Post Forward Well you're little tip certainly paid off, and we're not getting lynched today apparently so...all seems well for the moment.
Zaazaa0 · Today, 3:26 PM Forward Yeah, hope we can keep this up. There are only three visiting roles left, and I don't know how big a chance we have at this point, but we only need one more!
Somewhere in there I had a Skype log too but "The post you have entered is too long."
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