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| DannyTurtle | Jan 22 2014, 03:01 AM Post #31 |
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All bodies bleed. Blood is obviously mafia all the time. gg no re where's my cookies The eyes thing I felt was way too much of a misdirection towards it being Porygon. Especially considering the very first part of the sig "Don't fear the imposing figure in the glowing armor" I'm pretty sure you'd agree that the glowing armour and obvious murder weapon that's about to slash your throat would be of more immediate concern. I stand by my point of it being a pretty dumb way to say it was Blood. I guess I was taking the murder scene too literally though. Only a small part of Blood's sig was used. Not all of it. Which is to say, it meant nothing and could have still been anybody. Because a lot of people on Scumhunt have eyes. |
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| Dorkie Corkie | Jan 22 2014, 03:10 AM Post #32 |
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Now, why go up there when people are dying to get down here?
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It's suppose to point towards various different people. Plus he did say this was just an example, there's no actual game going on that he can base anything off of. Everyone on Scumhunt has eyes. Porygon has his pointed out recently so that was the first thought (it was my first thought, too) but Blood does have it noticeable in his signature which can always be seen. I didn't get that it was Blood at first, but I wouldn't call it a dumb example when Sjay worked so hard on it. (Also no, all bodies are not bloody. Suffocation, drowing, poison, etc.) |
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| DannyTurtle | Jan 22 2014, 03:48 AM Post #33 |
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(All bodies that have their throat slit are pretty bloody.) Also I like how Airborne guessed Blood. He posted. Then saw his sig in thread and went. WAIT. WAS IT BLOOD?!?! That's funny to me. On top of that, I wonder how many people actually thought it was Blood before reading other people's guesses. It could just be sheeping instead of reading the "clues". Not saying it is, just that when it's pointed out obviously you're going to read it that way.
I stand by it being a dumb example. Dumb is maybe not the best word. The flavour itself is okay. But there's no list of players. I feel like Beams would have at least gotten out of his tent to check on Draco since he was able to hear him. No idea how far away his tent was, but Airborne's was right next to Draco's and he heard nothing. There's no apparent method of committing the murder in the flavour text. Something as simple as pointing out that it was maybe an improvised knife, or... claw? (Considering the Werewolf theme going on.) The majority of the people in this scenario aren't under suspicion at all. This is a big one actually. As a note, the people in this scenario are: Blood, Draco, Corie, Shadow, Hyp, Jessi, Letter, Storm, Airborne, Porygon, Shock, and Beams. Oh, and wait, Shini pops up out of nowhere near the bottom of the flavour text. Out of these people, only 2 have a reasonable case against them, Porygon and Blood. Porygon for the mention of his eyes in the photo thread. Blood for his sig. How is everybody else involved in this scene? They're not. It's really as simple as that. Corie's hands being scuffed makes no sense for this death, it was a slit throat and bloodied body. Shadow flinching at the fire? Fire wasn't used in the death. Airborne being defensive? That's how he was in a recent game he was villager in, it's also not even that defensive? Shini noticing contradicting evidence to the death scene is weird though. Draco walked away from his tent but was found in his tent? Obviously the logical conclusion is that the killer brought his dead body back, or Draco came back by himself before being killed. Beams(Which you didn't bring up) as I've said, didn't go to check on Draco despite hearing him. Whereas the person in the tent next to Draco heard nothing. (It could be that the tent Beams was staying in was closer than Airborne's, but this isn't indicated in the flavour.) The only other reasonable accusation is actually Shadow. Anybody who has been around for any length of time, knows that Shadow and Werewolves go hand in hand. I could link a bunch of RP's where Shadow's character is part wolf, or is just straight up a werewolf. I'm not sure how much of this is documented on Scumhunt, but I'm sure there has been some instance somewhere. But the theme of werewolf is incredibly overwhelming here. And you want to be subtle, so obviously that's out too. TL;DR Not enough people had suspicion cast on them. Scenario itself wasn't detailed enough, contradicted itself in some areas. Unable to pick up anything from the death itself. Characters acted in unreasonable ways. Needed a list of people active in the scenario. So overall, yes, it was a pretty dumb example. It lacked a lot of things, even if people were able to pick up on it being Blood. But hey, he was one of two people it could have been, and one got confirmed to not be it by Mag himself. (I spent way too long typing this up. But it goes to show that I can actually analyse things.) |
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| bloodrayne03 | Jan 22 2014, 03:48 AM Post #34 |
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Accounted for.
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It's not supposed to be a dead give away for me. If it was, the mafia would have zero chance of winning ever. There are lots of vague clues that could be used to point at several different people, but there might be one or two in there that are a little stronger than the others if the village isn't doing so hot. I thought it was a perfectly fine example. Porygon was a good misdirect, but it was still a strong enough clue for people to get once there had been an elimination. In an actual game, you could make up some suspects, compare them to the next batch of flavor, and run from there after you've gone through a lynch or two. Mafia will very unlikely to pull off a perfect game, but there's several different ways they could throw enough suspicion around to make it with one or two.The mafia on the first night or two would be listed among those vague clues you rattled off against the others. It wouldn't be a solid tell unless mafia were doing really well, you'd have to take time to guess at the little things that were being pointed out. If it was being specifically noted, it was meant to be noticed. If it was meant to be noticed, it could be a clue to finding the mafia, or it could be a red herring. In a real game, Porygon would have been confirmed after he was lynched, so I would have gotten away for another phase to kill again. Since I was the one singled out in the flavor, next night's clue would probably also be about me, and even more obvious. And then the night after that wouldn't be as strong of a hint, because mafia just lost a member. Meanwhile, village has to go back through the other flavors and pick out the oddly specific details about other people to try to find the other mafia. Edited by bloodrayne03, Jan 22 2014, 03:55 AM.
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| DannyTurtle | Jan 22 2014, 04:23 AM Post #35 |
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My issue could just be that I expected a lot more substance to the scenario, and was disappointed by it because of that. I was expecting a story with an environment, characters, and a logical murder case, considering how it started. Instead it was a bunch of stuff thrown together while trying to indicate a few of the people involved could have been the bad guy. |
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| Aviana | Jan 22 2014, 06:25 AM Post #36 |
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Oh my god. Danny. In this case, Blood wasn't TRYING to defend himself. If he was, it would have played out totally differently. Sjay worked really hard on that, I thought it was excellent, and you're just sitting here crapping all over it. I thought quite a few people had suspicion cast on them, so that's not even really a very good complaint.Also, that's the kind of thing that would happen with a LONGER, COHESIVE NARRATIVE, NOT A ONE TIME EXAMPLE. Like, several of those things would be established NIGHT ONE. BEFORE MURDERS ACTUALLY START. This was an EXAMPLE. This was NOT that. Get real. Oh! Maggie, idea. Day phases are 48 hours. What if after the first 24 hours there was some kind of an investigation interlude thing? To make it even more confusing. Lemme explain that better. [22/01/2014 09:08:25] Dorkie /Corkie/: "investigation interlude thing" what exactly do you mean? [22/01/2014 09:08:37] Jessi Summers: Like, day phase starts, you have flavour, it's your initial read of the case. [22/01/2014 09:08:38] Dorkie /Corkie/: Like that's time for investigation only? [22/01/2014 09:08:49] Dorkie /Corkie/: Ooh. Then the last twenty four hours would be voting and stuff? [22/01/2014 09:08:53] Jessi Summers: Halfway through the day, another flavour comes in with people investigating the crime scene, or other things. Edited by Aviana, Jan 22 2014, 07:10 AM.
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| LetterSequence | Jan 22 2014, 05:08 PM Post #37 |
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She wants the D
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jessi just wants more hints |
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