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A series filled with detectives...; Remember that time when I asked what to do with a series involving many detectives?
Topic Started: Mar 15 2014, 10:34 PM (483 Views)
darkest absol
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...I figured out what to do. Ladies and gentlemen, Detective Conan Mafia.
Roles:
Village:

Conan Edogawa/Shinichi Kudo- You are a teenage detective! One day you were attacked by some men in black and got forcefed a poison meant to kill you. Instead, it shrunk you into the body of a six year old. Once a night, you may investigate one player and find out their role. In addition, if you are given the antidote you return to being Shinichi and gain the ability to investigate one player that day. However, the antidote wears off by the following night and you lose your night investigation for that night due to this.

Mouri Ran- You are a high school student and have a crush on Shinichi. You also know karate. You can survive one night kill via self defense.

Mouri Kogoro- You are a detective, but you're not the best at your job and get drunk a lot. You just visit one random player at night. (The player with this role just believes that they are a normal investigator.

Hiroshi Agasa- You are one of the few who knows the truth about Conan. You're also an inventor, and every day you can give a player a protective vest, which will save the wearer from night kills the following night. However, the vest wears out the following day and does not protect against day kills.

Ai Haibara- You were once with the Black Organization, but you turned traitor and tried to commit suicide with your creation, the APTX. However, the "other" effects kicked in instead, and you now live with Agasa. Since you made the drug, you can make an antidote, which can be given to Conan once during the game during the night. The following day Conan will return to being Shinichi and will gain an investigation that day. However, the antidote will wear off during the next night and Conan will lose his investigation for that night due to the stress of the antidote wearing off.

Heiji Hattori- You are a detective from Osaka, and one of the few who knows Conan's secret. Every night, you can see who a player visits during the night.

The Detective Boys- You are a group of three kids. (Ayumi, Genta, and Mitsuhiko) Every night you can attempt to listen in on a conversation, but what you hear will be fragmented. (Once a night, you pick a player. I then send you copies of any PMs that player received, but the PMs will be missing bits of info.)

Various police officers/investigators- You just try to figure out who did it. As such, you only vote for the day lynch.

Mafia:

Gin- You are one of the members of the Black Organization, and you were the one who fed Shinichi that poison. Once a night, you can stop a player from doing anything during the night.

Vodka- You are a member of the Black Organization. You can notice some details, and therefore the first time you are investigated you will know. (The first time either Conan, Hattori, or the Detective Boys visit you, you will be told you were investigated by that role, with a 50% chance of finding out the player too.)

Chianti- You are a sniper with the Black Organization. Once during the game, you can snipe a player of your choosing, either day or night. This bypasses the protective vests if at night.

Various BO members- You only vote for the night kill.


Third Party:

Kaito KID- You are a thief, and you have never been caught. At game start, one random player starts off with a gem. (Kaito can't start with the gem.) Whoever has the gem can pass it off to another player any time during the day. (The gem can't be passed at night.) Kaito's job is to steal the gem. He can visit one player a night. If he visits whoever had the gem, he steals it and the game ends with him as the winner.
Edited by darkest absol, Mar 16 2014, 04:46 PM.
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So what's to stop the person who started with the gem to just claim right away and give the third party his free win? Also, how is Mouri supposed to believe he's a regular investigation if he's named and the other role has a different ability?
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darkest absol
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Alright, if you have the gem you can't say that you have it. Also, if Kaito has revealed themselves you can't pass it to him. Kogoro was meant to be a Sleepwalker. http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Sleepwalker
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Couldn't you still just heavily hint at who you were going to pass it to, or pass it and then PM Kaito who you passed it to? Oh, alright. I was reading that late and the flavor sort of made it seem like he got an investigation. Makes sense now.
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darkest absol
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Okay...how about you can't say where the gem is period? No hinting, no PM'ing Kaito, nothing.
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what if the hint is so subtle you can't pick up on it but other people can
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Nix Machina
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Instead of having all these limitations on whether or not you can hint at the gem, why not just add repercussions to Kaito winning?
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From what I can tell, Kaito looks similar to Catwoman in Batmafia. You could add the repercussion that if they get the gem then the game ends, and only they win.
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Fair point. If Kaito gets the gem, game over and he wins. No joint win.
Edit: I edited the OP, are there any balance issues I should know about?
Edited by darkest absol, Mar 16 2014, 03:58 PM.
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Nix Machina
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I'd still give the opportunity to joint win. If Kaito gets the gem on the same night that the mafia would win, it doesn't seem quite fair to say that only one gets the win.

Other than that, my only other questions are:

What happens if the person with the gem dies?

and

Why specify that Agasa gives out vests if the only person capable of killing during the day bypasses vests?
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I think she means the sniper goes past the bulletproof's vest, and the one who gives out vests at night is really just a doc
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If the person holding the gem dies the gem is passed off to a random living player. (Not Kaito.) Agasa's vests only work at night to protect against night kill. They wear off when day comes. I'll rework that to vests are given out during the day, so it should now work like this:
-Vest given end of day 3
-Vest saves wearer from night kill night 4
-Vest wears off start of day 4
And okay, if Kaito gets the gem on the same night maf wins, both maf and Kaito win.
Edited by darkest absol, Mar 16 2014, 04:43 PM.
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Nix Machina
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I mean, it's fine the way it is right now. I just get confused when I see "gives out vests" when the role functions the same way as a doc.
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darkest absol
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Okay, I'm thinking maybe a 10/4/1 split.
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Looks good to me. I find it funny that the villagers are referred to as Police and Investigators. though.
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Okay! I'll host this soon.
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