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Topic Started: Mar 24 2014, 04:07 PM (725 Views)
Aviana
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An idea I've been brewing for a little while. It's still not ready, but I have time, so might as well start slapping things down.

One rule I'm going to note is that there will be no editing of posts. This is to work with a mafia role. If you absolutely must edit a post for some reason, tell me what you're editing and what the post said before your edit. Should you fail to do this I will remove you from the game and you will not win.

Role descriptions will be flavoured up later.

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This is where I'm at right now. Ideas pls?
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PSN Strykr
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Okay, so I've said stuff about this previously, but I'm going to say it again because I really think it's a dumb idea.

The "Policy Lynch", and the entire concept of a "reverse fool", seems pretty pointless to me. Because they think that they're the Fool, there's no way for them to find out their win condition. This means that there's literally no reason for you to try and actively work on getting lynched/not being lynched, because there's a 50/50 chance either way of one of them being your win condition, so you might as well not bother. And of course, this affects the real Fool as well.

If there was some way for them to learn their win condition at some point in the game, that could theoretically work, but as it is now I'm not sold on the idea, and would suggest just not using it unless it gets changed.
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bloodrayne03
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First unnamed role: The Lurker.
Second unnamed role: The Gambit.

Also, I kind of have to agree with PSN, a reverse fool doesn't work very well.
Edited by bloodrayne03, Mar 24 2014, 04:20 PM.
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DannyTurtle
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[23:16:38] DannyTurtle: I don't think I like any of the roles honestly.
Scumhunter seems okay but would need playtesting to see if it's balanced.
Leader is whatever, the doc/lynch halt is whatever, Aggressor seems weird, Derp is also whatever.
Nitpick sucks hardcore to play around because any mistake is your death even if it's like, no comma in the right place.
Chaotic needs more info.
Policy lynch is why bother trying to win.
[23:16:50] PSN Strykr: fool is also why bother trying
[23:16:55] PSN Strykr: if there's a policy lynch
[23:16:55] DannyTurtle: Which goes with Chaotic too yeah.
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Zaazaa0
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I have things to say about Nitpick but I don't want to accidentally reveal any Sandbox information so I PMed it.
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Shinigami02
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Suggestion for the Town ???: The Paranoid

Also, the Scumhunter sounds a lot like a Dreamer that isn't stopped by being visited. Not sure if that would be balanced or not.

Personally, I feel that if the Chaotic and Policy Lynch both make it to, say, Day 3 (or if only one makes it because of a night kill) that they should be told which they are. If one is lynched, that makes it rather obvious which the other is.

Also, would joint wins between Chaotic and Policy Lynch be possible? Because that would be the best win ever IMO.
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Aviana
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PSN Strykr
Mar 24 2014, 04:15 PM
Okay, so I've said stuff about this previously, but I'm going to say it again because I really think it's a dumb idea.

The "Policy Lynch", and the entire concept of a "reverse fool", seems pretty pointless to me. Because they think that they're the Fool, there's no way for them to find out their win condition. This means that there's literally no reason for you to try and actively work on getting lynched/not being lynched, because there's a 50/50 chance either way of one of them being your win condition, so you might as well not bother. And of course, this affects the real Fool as well.

If there was some way for them to learn their win condition at some point in the game, that could theoretically work, but as it is now I'm not sold on the idea, and would suggest just not using it unless it gets changed.
bloodrayne03
Mar 24 2014, 04:18 PM
Also, I kind of have to agree with PSN, a reverse fool doesn't work very well.
DannyTurtle
Mar 24 2014, 04:21 PM
Chaotic needs more info.
Policy lynch is why bother trying to win.
[23:16:50] PSN Strykr: fool is also why bother trying
[23:16:55] PSN Strykr: if there's a policy lynch
[23:16:55] DannyTurtle: Which goes with Chaotic too yeah.
I hear you. Do you have any ideas on how they could learn which they are? I could maybe include a loudmouthish thing, but then that depends on a village role to find their true meaning.

DannyTurtle
Mar 24 2014, 04:21 PM
Nitpick sucks hardcore to play around because any mistake is your death even if it's like, no comma in the right place.
I guess I could have been clearer on what punctuation means. I meant mostly actually using periods. I wouldn't kill someone over a comma. That said, I am considering changing it so that the nitpick personally has to point out the error to me for the kill to happen. What do you all think?
That said, I really don't see where the issue is with the nitpick that everyone seems to be having. It's basically a voodoo except everyone knows what the trigger is. And it won't make everyone speak like morons either.
Edited by Aviana, Mar 24 2014, 06:38 PM.
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bloodrayne03
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Nitpick is fine, honestly. Everyone knows the trigger, it's not like a voodoo where the trap is hidden. You know what will cause you to die, you only don't know who's targeted. If everyone avoids the trigger, it doesn't matter who's targeted. It'll be your own fault if you die to it, it doesn't take much effort to type with proper grammar. I did suggest that the Nitpick should have to point out the error themselves to get the kill, and that picking something that's not an error should either leave the target scot-free for the rest of the day or have something bad happen to the Nitpick. Missing their next action or being revealed or something.
Edited by bloodrayne03, Mar 24 2014, 06:44 PM.
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Aviana
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I've tentatively decided against having the nitpick required to point out the error. Just to be perfectly clear, here are the guidelines on what will trigger a nitpick kill. If the target does any of the following, they will die.

- Fails to capitalise the beginning of the sentence or a name (unless it's a username where the username itself is not capitalised)
- Fails to use some form of punctuation to end of a sentence
- Fails to use the correct form of your/you're, to/two/too, its/it's, or their/there/they're

Does anyone think that's unfair? I really don't think that's too much to ask. I didn't even include spelling because regional variants could simply be different. I'm not running checks like I would on a paper to be published, it's just very simple things like that.
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Whitey
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Don't forget there, their, and they're.

I'm sorry I'm a grammar nazi ;w;
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Aviana
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No, you're right, I forgot that one. Go ahead and suggest other things like that you feel should be included because the third line is basically the pet peeve clause.

For the record, I would include a link in the OP with what the differences are for each of those rules so no one could claim they simply never knew. How you can get even to middle school without being taught that is beyond me, but.
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Aviana
Mar 24 2014, 04:07 PM

The Nitpick - Grammar nazi that acts more like voodoo. Basically, Nitpick picks a player. If that player makes a grammatically incorrect post (things I will look out for include capitalisation, the correct your/you're or to/two/too, and punctuation), they will be killed as soon as the host sees it. The player is not told that they are being watched.

dead: hyp - dyslectic derp
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Dax246
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I think spelling should be checked and if its something like organisation/organization let them live. Maybe the host can tell what the person did wrong and they can make excuses if necessary.
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Beams
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But then they could make excuses for everything. Setup looks good from my point of view.
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Dax246
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No but it has to be a good sxcuse like country differences such as organisation/organization. Most times though the person will not have an excuse.
Edited by Dax246, Mar 26 2014, 02:06 AM.
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LetterSequence
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I spell everything wrong then say I'm speaking in an accent
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Aviana
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I don't really want to ask for an excuse, I want to kill on the spot. Regional variants, dyslexia, etc. basically have me veering away from spelling right now.
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Hyp-R
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No mercy kill them all!
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Aviana
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...well if the dyslexic is approving of killing by spelling I guess I can consider it.
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DannyTurtle
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Hehehehe.
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Dax246
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Mar 26 2014, 05:01 AM
I spell everything wrong then say I'm speaking in an accent
No one types with an accent. They type in English. Spelling should be checked.
Otherwise I can write:
I lik3 2 qal B3amz an id0t.
Edited by Dax246, Mar 26 2014, 10:30 PM.
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Whitey
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He's joking, Dax.
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PorygonSeizure
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Rule 9 of Scumhunt: Don't take what Letter says seriously.
Edited by PorygonSeizure, Mar 27 2014, 02:05 AM.
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Beams
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Porygon dats like Rule 1.
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PorygonSeizure
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No, rule 1 is "Don't talk about Scumhunt!"
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Dax246
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Does Porygon have his own set of rules?
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I love how this has gone from discussing Aviana's game to the rules of Scumhunt XD
Also if I may suggest a name for the ??? Town PR; The Tactician
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