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Tengan Toppa Mafia v. 3
Topic Started: Oct 6 2016, 04:56 PM (225 Views)
Aviana
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Okay this is as much to see how big the potential playing pool is on Scumhunt nowadays as anything else

but I'm also rewatching Gurren Lagann with some friends right now (who are first time watchers) and this seemed as fun a game as any to bring back

here is the setup as I originally had it (for I think the second run?)

at the end of the game we discussed ways to make Viral an undesirable role for the village to work with, and how to make it so mafia can't hold him captive if Kamina's player is known, since the latter happened in the first game to the first Viral's great frustration and the former happened in the second game to my frustration since he was never intended to be a village friendly role

so here are the revisions I was considering:

  • Viral's kill cannot be driven. Its target can only be changed by Kamina's power, which brings the kill to Kamina anyway. Possibly make it so he can't be hooked, but I'm not sure this is needed, since a hooked Viral can't work for the mafia anyway.
  • When Kamina dies, Simon loses his powers entirely until he visits Nia, at which point he powers up to a doctor/cop as regularly scheduled.
  • Nia's awakening is delayed for a full night/day cycle. For example, if Kamina takes a hit on night 3 and dies at the end of day 3, night 4 and day 4 will proceed as usual and Nia will awaken on night 5.


The implication of the last two would be Simon is out of commission for two nights, though reasonably by the third night Nia will probably have claimed to the organised PRs, and assuming no counterclaims he can regain his powers that night. I don't think a long time table like that is unreasonable for a game this size.

Any other suggestions or concerns?
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LetterSequence
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The biggest flaw with your delayed Nia idea is that maybe 7 people max still play mafia here.
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LetterSequence
Oct 6 2016, 05:15 PM
The biggest flaw with your delayed Nia idea is that maybe 7 people max still play mafia here.
I think I'd be able to drag some nuzdorks over if the need for it arises
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Zaazaa0
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i cant see any reason that those changes wouldnt have the intended effect

so yeah it'd probably work

you could also make him unable to be hooked, since if village becomes aware of who viral is then yoko prevents him from doing anything

on the other hand, not making him immune to hooking dissuades viral from working with village in the first place
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Aviana
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Aviana
Oct 6 2016, 04:56 PM
Okay this is as much to see how big the potential playing pool is on Scumhunt nowadays as anything else


Which is why I mentioned this. The setup requires a large game. If the game doesn't hit the requisite number of players I know better than to bother trying to work on Blast from the Past again.
Zaazaa0
Oct 6 2016, 05:20 PM
you could also make him unable to be hooked, since if village becomes aware of who viral is then yoko prevents him from doing anything

on the other hand, not making him immune to hooking dissuades viral from working with village in the first place


Yeah I don't intend to have Viral be unstoppable. I might as well just hand him the win condition by that point. The revisions are mostly intended to have him more likely to help the mafia than the village but equally likely to just ride solo.

Though really I think he doesn't have much reason to work with the mafia either with these revisions unless he just feels like it, but it'd be safer for Adiane to just not know him anyway.
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Magellan
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As the original and therefore the best viral I approve these viral changes. Also if u want more activity im fine with having a permanent link in the stickied mafia thread on nuz redirecting here, if you wanted that or something similar. Think my discord is furfrou#1076 if u wanna talk bout it
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Aviana
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Discord's saying that's not right, but I'm down with that suggestion either way.
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Shadow31
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First, I'm still here for games, depending on the timing (grad school wheeeeee).

As for Viral, I think letting him be hooked is fine; if he can't be hooked, then he's basically a nonfactor in the game until Kamina dies, which would be really boring to the player. Plus, even if he can be hooked, its not an automatic decision; does village spend their hook every night on him, or try to use the hook to block mafia? Does mafia use the threat of the hook to force him to ally, or do they try to block village PRs? Probably not hard decisions, but does have the potential to make things interesting.
Aside from that, having Kamina's death be so crippling would be really bad for village in all but a really large game, I feel. Maybe have this happen only if Kamina dies to Viral? Up to you, here; its been a while since I've thought much about mafia.
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i mean if viral and mafia get in contact there isnt much reason for them not to work together

viral can help weed out PRs for the mafia, and mafia killing non-kamina PRs greatly reduces the risk of kamina getting hit by the mafia
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Aviana
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Except Kamina might be protecting those PRs and directs the kills to himself. Though really given Mag's antics from the first game they might want to avoid him altogether...

Anyway I think I'm good with these changes overall so I'll post the setup for sign ups, uh, soonish.
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