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Avacyn Restored Mafia; Based on the events of the new MTG set
Topic Started: Apr 18 2012, 04:04 PM (290 Views)
Draco12387
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So yeah. This idea just struck me, and I wanted to put this out here, and see how balanced it is. This is going to be my first hosting of a game. Onto the roles.
Village

Thalia (1)
Protect one person each night. If the person you would protect is targeted by Liliana, they die, the Helvault is broken, and a random vanillager becomes Avacyn.

Avacyn (0)
Can target one mafia member and turn them into a wolfir on the villager side. Can only use this power once per game. Can survive one kill.

Kolman (1)
Lynch votes count double. Can force one lynch by yelling "X is a werewolf!"

Ulvenwald Tracker (1)
Can pick one person each night, and see who they visit

Suspected Werewolf (1)
They are told they are a vanillager, but if they are targeted by any role, they show up mafia, having visited the previous mafia night kill.

Mikaeus, the Lunarch (1)
Can sacrifice himself to prevent all mafia and third party actions (this includes the night kill). The Helvault cannot be destroyed while Mikaeus lives.

Wolfir (0)
Can kill one person each night

Vanillagers (?)

Mafia (Werewolves)

Howlpack Alpha(1)
Night vote counts double. Can reveal himself during the day by postin "RAWR! DIE X!" which will kill the target.

Reckless Waif(1)
Can give up mafia vote to stop one person from using a night action.

Werewolves (?)
Nilla maf.

Third Party

Liliana
Can visit one person each night, killing them. Liliana wins when the Helvault is destroyed, and, her job being done, leaves. The game still continues.

Garruk
Can visit one person each night, discovering their role. If he finds Liliana, he kills her, wins, and leaves. The game still continues.

So, I don't really know how many this set up would be, and are there any balance issues?

Last maf to vote visits target. Targeting someone with an ability also makes you visit them.
Edited by Draco12387, Apr 21 2012, 10:41 AM.
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LordQ
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I don't see any obvious balance issues at the moment. Are Wolfirs just Vanillagers under a different name?

Also, not to be nitpicky, but try putting some formatting and spacing into the setup to make it easier to read.

Also, you've specified a Tracker. You'll also have to specify how visiting works. Do all mafia members visit the person they kill? Just the last person to vote visits? What do you have in mind?
Edited by LordQ, Apr 18 2012, 04:48 PM.
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Draco12387
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Alright, edited to clear up a few things. Still not sure on numbers.
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LordQ
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Well, with a minimum of 3 mafia, I would go for 8-3-2. But that's just arbitrary.
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Can Liliana destroy the Helvault and then be lynched to still win?
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Draco12387
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Not anymore.
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bloodrayne03
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She's awful hard to win as then. It's also really hard for village to get half of their PRs. If the third parties decide to side with maf, it's basically over.
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Oh gosh Liliana does seem a bit of a nightmare to try to win as right now. It seems like it'd be tricky enough to get the Helvault broken unless there's some mass claim thing. :unsure:

And even if there was a mass claim, there's a lynch forcer. Hrrrm. I like the hooking trade off - if there's only two mafia left, do you consider one vote enough for a kill? (I don't but I'm wondering if you would.)

I can't think of anything additional right now, but it's 2:24 AM, so. xD
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Draco12387
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Added 2 new roles. Still balenced?
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bloodrayne03
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Well, you just made it even harder for Liliana to win. I rather like the maf PRs having to give up their vote to use their power though, it works well with village missing some of their power to start, I think.
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Maybe Lilliana would be more balanced if she won as soon as the Helvault was destroyed, and ended the game upon her victory. That way there's incentive to keep Mikaeus alive, and there's incentive to try to kill her, but it's easier for her to win.

Wait, that would make it so that Avacyn had no purpose at all. Hmmm.
Edited by Nix Machina, Apr 19 2012, 09:36 PM.
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