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| bloodrayne03 | Dec 24 2013, 01:25 PM Post #121 |
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I'm also going to nominate Tk in Intermission for Best Other Win. I might have helped execute it, but the whole thing was his idea, and it was hilarious to watch it play out. Also, I'm going to nominate Jessi in Haunting Cult for Biggest Village Win, because village stomped in that game. Like, really badly. |
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| Dorkie Corkie | Dec 24 2013, 08:29 PM Post #122 |
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Now, why go up there when people are dying to get down here?
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Changed my Biggest Mafia Win to Jessi, for Batmafia. |
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| Aviana | Dec 24 2013, 08:39 PM Post #123 |
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Oh, whatever, I can't be bothered to read the last few games over again. Or plug in URLs for these. Wildcard: Letter. Because Letter. Best Host: I think a case could be made for Letter here too. His games consistently get the same response: hahahaha what the heck I'm totally in. Best Flavour: Drunk Mafia had hilarious flavour and people were in love with that. Most Innovative Role: Agreeing that the Wildlife Protection Officer was a good role. Best Game: I'm torn between Batmafia and Final Destination. Since Batmafia's already got a nomination I'll go with Final Destination. Best Village Win: Going with Magellan in Welcome to Scumville. I mean, there was some Corie dumbness, which is to be expected, but the last phase was great. Best Mafia Win: Batmafia was still one of the best mafia wins. I know I'm biased because I was part of that. But really why it was the best was because everyone on that mafia played there part. In the spirit of that, I'm going to nominate Bullet for that game. In addition, Bullet does not have internet at the moment, but he is texting in a nomination for Magellan for that game. Biggest Upset: I'll go ahead with Bullet in Barebones yeah. Most Original: Shock's Borderlands game was pretty good for that. |
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| bloodrayne03 | Dec 24 2013, 08:47 PM Post #124 |
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My Biggest Mafia Win will be Bullet in Barebones, because he did a really good job of avoiding and nudging the lynch for like 3 phases there, and because I've seen it nominated for Biggest Upset but not Biggest Mafia Win. So there. My Best Game will also be Haunting Cult Madness, because I really liked the idea of the ghosts voting to protect, and it was all around a pretty hectic and entertaining game to watch play out. Edited by bloodrayne03, Dec 24 2013, 08:55 PM.
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| Aviana | Dec 24 2013, 09:40 PM Post #125 |
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NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED. I'm adding polls shortly, and we'll announce the winners on New Year's Eve. All right, polls should all be up! (A couple are out of order because I doofed and you have to delete a poll to add an option.) They all allow for only a single vote, so vote away. However, I'm about to put together a post with links relevant to each option, so if you'd rather wait for that, I'll try to get that done ASAP. For the players, the links are to their profiles, and you can look at their posts and such from there. Please remember to only consider content from the player from this year. Games should go to the first page of the game. Best Overall Player Best Village Player Best Mafia Player Best Other Player Wildcard Player Best Host Best Flavour Most Innovative Role Best Game Biggest Village Win Biggest Mafia Win Biggest Other Win Biggest Derp Biggest Upset Most Original Game All righty! Since I've gone through the effort to put all these links together for you, you really have no excuse to not reread before you vote, right? ...right? (Seriously though there's some gold you might have forgotten otherwise. I'd strongly recommend a reread.) Edited by Aviana, Dec 24 2013, 11:06 PM.
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| Bullet | Dec 25 2013, 09:28 AM Post #126 |
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The best projectile.
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Just wanted to post telling Jessi thanks for letting me send in everything by phone. ;w; |
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| Aviana | Dec 25 2013, 09:36 AM Post #127 |
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No problem! IF ANYONE MISVOTES, PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO I CAN KEEP TRACK OF IT. I HAVE AN ANSWER TO THE SINGULAR OF SCUMMIES. IT WAS THERE ALL ALONG. Edited by Aviana, Dec 25 2013, 09:50 AM.
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| Aviana | Dec 29 2013, 01:09 PM Post #128 |
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A question has come up regarding biggest derp, and we need as much input about it as possible. Should host errors count for biggest derp? Discuss. |
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| Nix Machina | Dec 29 2013, 01:12 PM Post #129 |
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Dreams of machine-men and trees and rivers...
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I feel like having host errors be eligible for Biggest Derp is a lot less friendly. Bringing up host errors is like "oh, this guy fucked up at hosting and caused the game to be slowed down/possibly ruined" (not saying this happened in Snake's game, but host errors like that made one of the Permafrosts completely fucked), whereas for players it's more like "this guy made a mistake in a game and possibly cost them the game, but it didn't ruin anyone's enjoyment of the game." Hosting is damn hard. It sucks when you mess up, more so than when you mess up in a game, and I don't think it needs to be pointed out for the world to see. |
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| Daymafter | Dec 29 2013, 01:12 PM Post #130 |
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Even though I was one of the people who submitted a host for biggest derp, I now feel that, considering the amount of work that gets put into hosting, it's not fair to nominate a simple mistake that anyone could have made for this category, so I've already changed my vote and think that host mistakes should not be made eligible for biggest derp |
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| PSN Strykr | Dec 29 2013, 01:14 PM Post #131 |
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Okay, so. I was the one who first brought this up in the chat, and I've stated what I would suggest should be done, but I'll go over what I'd suggest. We keep the host error (Snake) in for this nomination, and if he wins, so be it. Next year's Scummies make a clear point that host errors do not count. That's my two cents. |
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| Aviana | Dec 29 2013, 01:20 PM Post #132 |
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Snake isn't the only host error nominated. Don't talk like he is. |
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| Shinigami02 | Dec 29 2013, 01:24 PM Post #133 |
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Normally I'd agree with y'all, especially now that I have hosted, but this was a rather major host error, resulting in the entire game having to be redone because it wasn't caught. As such, I think it totally qualifies. |
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| Aviana | Dec 29 2013, 01:25 PM Post #134 |
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Again. There were a couple of host errors nominated, so please don't discuss as if we're only talking about one. |
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| DannyTurtle | Dec 29 2013, 01:27 PM Post #135 |
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Okay considering I'm one of the host errors here's my input. No. It's 6 months on from when I messed up and I've hosted several games successfully since then. I still feel bad about messing up. And winning a "prize" because of it would just suck even more. Also the point Snow brings up in that nobody got any entertainment out of it. Just blehness and annoyance. Edited by DannyTurtle, Dec 29 2013, 01:27 PM.
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| Shinigami02 | Dec 29 2013, 01:39 PM Post #136 |
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Okay then, here's my full opinion on how host-errors should be treated: Don't allow it unless it's some extremely major screw up which drastically affects the very game-play. As for the Danny game, which is the other host-error in the nominations, I'm not sure on how it would fall, especially since I wasn't there, but I think it would be at most borderline acceptable, since it did lead to the game not being counted in the tally. On the other hand, other than the tally complications, it doesn't really affect the gameplay much, as compared to the Snake one, where it lead to a situation where the only solutions were to have the host confirm a clear or to restart the game. Very drastic mistake, and as such definitely qualifies. |
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| Aviana | Dec 29 2013, 01:46 PM Post #137 |
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On that I will HEAVILY disagree. The entire mafia of Danny's game was shafted out of a win. It's not just the tally that affects - those players did not win, after working so hard at it, when they should more than likely should have. The game was ended before there was no real resolution. All of the play up to that point on both sides was for nothing. That means a heck of a lot more than it messes with the tally. The Snake error, on the other hand, led to a serious inconvenience early on. Neither side had any kind of an advantage at that point. However, that's all it was. An inconvenience. It was early enough to not really matter, it was just irritating. |
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| SnakeWrangler | Dec 29 2013, 01:51 PM Post #138 |
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it just works
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Gonna have to say no as well. Derp is meant to really be for silly things- they cost a game, yes, but it's something we can all look back on and laugh about. They're entertaining. Host errors are just annoyances and things I doubt anyone would want to remember. They're not funny, they're just bad memories. |
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| LetterSequence | Dec 29 2013, 01:51 PM Post #139 |
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She wants the D
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yes because I would be happy with a "you suck" award everyone else probably wouldn't be happy if they got one so maybe ignore my opinion |
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| Daymafter | Dec 29 2013, 01:56 PM Post #140 |
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The point we're arguing isn't that host errors don't affect the game, it's how one person's derp changed the entire game for the other players. Hosting a game, as you should know from hosting some yourself, is alot of work. It's far too easy to make mistakes when everyone is looking to you to narrate the entire course of the game, and keep all the players right. I personally don't feel that host mistakes should be allowed for this category any more because of the pressure on hosts when compared to pressure on players. Player derps have no real excuse other than "I derped". There are loads of things that can affect a host's behaviour and mistakes in a game. Not to mention, host derps are deeply embarrassing for the host, and it's not fair for us to continually remind that person of their mistake. How would you feel if you had make a simple mistake and everyone constantly was saying "Hey remember that time that you made a mistake that you already feel bad about? Let's give you an award for it so that everybody can see!" I wouldn't. Player mistakes aren't to the same degree as host mistakes. They can be rectified by good play from either side, and in general, the player who makes the mistake takes it in good spirit. I don't think that any of the nominees for biggest derp as a player took their mistakes to heart. A player derp can be learned from, whereas constant reminders to a host could damage their confidence in hosting future games. |
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| Shinigami02 | Dec 29 2013, 01:56 PM Post #141 |
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And to Aviana I will admit that as I was not there, my judgement is likely horridly skewed. Likewise, since I was not only in the Snake game, but a major party in the slip up, my view on that one is biased as well. So I will bow to the views of the many, since my views are admittedly so heavily skewed. |
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| DannyTurtle | Dec 29 2013, 02:03 PM Post #142 |
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Biggest Derp is meant to a fun jokey category. You can look back at player derps and laugh them off. Host screwups just suck for everybody involved. |
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| Magellan | Dec 29 2013, 02:08 PM Post #143 |
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salut
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i was in both danny's and snakes games (on opposite ends) and even though I think I voted for Basic as biggest derp i'm kinda inclined to agree with not using it. suppose it's the difference between "Derp" and "Screwup", but as people have said derp is a funny category in a like "oh you" sense (See: Q), compared to kinda serious-y stuff that sucks. so yeah i'm against including it in the category. (and sorry, i should've been more clear with my nomination cuz i didnt specifically mean the host error when i nominated basic game, there was so many other derps in there that are cringeworthy for me >_>) Edited by Magellan, Dec 29 2013, 02:09 PM.
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| Dorkie Corkie | Dec 29 2013, 02:17 PM Post #144 |
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Now, why go up there when people are dying to get down here?
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If it makes the hosts nominated feel bad about it then yeah, host errors should be eliminated. I think people should be able to look back on them and laugh, just like they can with player derps, but if it's something they're still upset about it should be taken down. On the other hand, I think if a player feels awful about their derp they should be able to ask for it to be taken down, since hosts are now (possibly) having that option. |
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| Aviana | Dec 29 2013, 02:27 PM Post #145 |
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I've literally never had a player have an issue with being nominated for biggest derp, but yeah. |
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| Shadow31 | Dec 29 2013, 02:30 PM Post #146 |
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I think host errors are not allowable. Let me use my playing in Warriors (an old game where I derped pretty bad as a player) in comparision to Snake's game. In Warriors, I derped. Hard. I let a nonclear begin an RL which led to the Doc dying N2, and then failed to organize village properly, and ended with me failing at numbers and ordering an RL on MYLO. This is all stupidity on my part, but is something I laugh about. Fine, tha's what the category's for. Snake made a mistake. It's a lot to keep track of as a host, especialy when you're sending out the original PMs for roles, and he made a mistake which necessitated a reroll. Not fun for him, since thats a lot of work wasted. Plus, now the players are annoyed at him. All in all, not something he can really laugh about. Plus, would you give "Biggest Derp" to someone who broke the rules and got hostkilled as a result, costing their side the game? No, you'd just get annoyed at them. Host mistake is the same idea in practice, except its an honest mistake and not an "I dont care about the rules". Im aware that Snake isnt the only host up there, but its still the same idea with all host mistakes. Its not a play mistake, its an uncontrollable (for the players) event that ends in the game being unworkable. |
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| Aviana | Dec 29 2013, 03:16 PM Post #147 |
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| bloodrayne03 | Dec 29 2013, 03:23 PM Post #148 |
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Shadow brings up an interesting point about modkills being eligible for Biggest Derp, since those are typically along the lines of seriously and probably deliberately breaking the rules rather than an honest mistake, like most of the derps are. Or would you nominate a villager getting inactive killed after a NL on MYLO and costing village the game for Biggest Derp? (I can't remember the exact game name, but Oma did this in one.) But back on topic, I can agree that host errors are in a different class than player errors are, since while player errors can certainly lose their side the game, I can't really think of an example of a player's actions completely invalidating a game. But does that make it any less of a derp? Should we lump it in with rule breaking? |
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| Aviana | Dec 29 2013, 03:32 PM Post #149 |
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I think that was No Reveal No Problem or something. I'd have to double check. It's closer to rule breaking that it is to a derp, honestly, because the hosts essentially are the rules in any given game they're hosting. It's not done with any of the malice that receives a warning or anything for rule breaking, but it's a lot more significant than a simple derp that a player could make to lose the game. |
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| bloodrayne03 | Dec 29 2013, 03:39 PM Post #150 |
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It was, actually, No Reveal? No Problem. |
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