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Western Zodiac. [COMPLETED]
Topic Started: Mar 18 2013, 09:03 PM (4,197 Views)
Aviana
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Okay, so I've talked to Corie and three way ties forced by refusing to lynch won't work after all. So I see why you think it'd be necessary to get rid of one of us in the end.

However, I'm sure there's some way to get rid of Taurus. Either way, Taurus is not my concern at the moment.

You know who is? And maybe this is a reflex lynch, but this should also help you guys.

Vote: LordQ

I've been analysing the setup a good bit, and from where I sit there are at least two roles that are incredibly difficult, if not completely impossible, to work with. From what I've been reading, Pisces is impossible to work with, and impossible to trust.

Now, I've been telling you guys I've not done any networking, and that is true. However, Bullet did approach me before his death, trying to work me into a voting alliance. I responded about as nonchalantly as could be expected - I really didn't care that much about any of the workings most of the players had going on. But he decided to tell me some more stuff anyway.

Including that LordQ is Pisces.


So yeah. You REALLY should be focusing on that problem way more than if you want to get rid of Taurus or Gemini in the end. Because you can make whatever plans you want about me, but I'm not going to actively screw with you. Pisces will make you all his personal puppet show, as he did with PSN and Bullet and Blood.
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LordQ
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Hey, I fucked shit up. If I die this phase, I'll die happy.

And while fucking said shit up, I have also managed to get rid of 3 roles that would be most dangerous to everyone else, whether on their merit, or whether they're getting redirected by me. Be happy.
Edited by LordQ, Mar 30 2013, 07:24 PM.
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Aviana
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See? He doesn't even mind dying. All the more reason.
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Daymafter
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Kay you know what this is very interesting and I have a confession.

I've been allied with LordQ the entire game and hadn't even realised he was orchestrating this.

SO. THAT MEANS.

I'M SORRY Q, BUT

Vote: LordQ
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Omanyte
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My favorite villain.
Isn't he despicable? :y
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Daymafter
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World's best villain :U
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Generic4
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Not that I'm opposed to killing people, but I doubt he was orchestrating it. Considering he'd be dead if I hadn't stepped in for shits and giggles. Well, maybe he's just a really bad conductor, I 'unno. Anyway, not really my problem. We wanna do this, fine by me.

Missed Aviana's post. Yeah. Let's kill him.

Vote: Q.

He who giveth, also taketh away.
Edited by Generic4, Mar 30 2013, 08:15 PM.
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LordQ
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Why is me being Pisces a big deal if there are basically no roles left for me to redirect? :V

Edit: And Ophuchius knows who I am, so I'm basically armless now.

Edit: And since Pisces can't redirect an action back to the person who did the action, it's not like I'd be able to solo win at the end.
Edited by LordQ, Mar 30 2013, 08:19 PM.
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Omanyte
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Ophuchius is a big problem now that I think about it, granted he nullifies everyone's abilities.
Honestly Q can be lynched at any point, same with Aviana; but I'd think Cancer, Libra, Aries and myself would prefer to keep our abilities as much as we can.

Either Sum or Storm are Mr.Duality.

Unvote: Aviana
Vote: Sum Nox
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LordQ
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Ooh ooh, another thing. Ophuchius should target me while we're both still alive, so in case Sum isn't Ophuchius, you guys should be safe.

Vote: Sum.
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Daymafter
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So based on doing some actual thinking, this seems like probably the best course of action

Unvote: Q

Vote: Sum Nox
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StormBuster
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Works for me

Vote: Sum Nox
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Generic4
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Aye, Q isn't really much of a threat right now. Seems that either Sum or Storm are the major threats. Therefore:

Unvote: Q
Vote: Sum
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Aviana
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Wait, I'm confused as to who you're saying Sum Nox is, since I thought duality was a Gemini thing?

Personally I don't like the idea of leaving Q alive period. There aren't any murdery playthings left for him, but there are still lots of dangerous toys, like Libra and Aries. Given that and I totally missed what we're lynching Sum for, my vote will remain for now.
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LordQ
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Remember, my abilities only work to redirect if the person is using theirs.

I'm not sure I can redirect Libra since they target 2 people and I can only target one. If I were to use Libra, then my guess would be that it'd cause the vote of the person I directed to to go up by one and down by one simultaneously, which does nothing.

And Aries chooses to use their power during the day so as to be able to affect a lynch as it's undertaken, so I'm at a distinct disadvantage as I can only use my power during the night.

Look Jess, it's not right to go after me purely because OH LOOK HE CAN DO SOMETHING KILL HIM. If that's what you want to do, Libra, for instance, is far worse than me as they, unlike me, can solo win. And referring to Libra and Aries as toys? Rude.
Edited by LordQ, Mar 31 2013, 04:22 AM.
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Aviana
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Pisces carries over into the day. And it's not OH LOOK HE CAN DO SOMETHING KILL HIM it's OH LOOK HE CAN DO SOMETHING REALLY DANGEROUS TO SCREW EVERYONE THAT HE TOUCHES OVER AS HE'S DONE, KILL HIM.

Either way I've entirely missed what role we're lynching Sum Nox for.
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LordQ
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Yep, I am aware that Pisces carries over to the day. Just saying that since Aries would normally choose to do something based on what's happening during the day after, it's pretty damn hard for me to look into the future and work out what will happen most of the time.

We're lynching Sum because Ophuchius is an ability disruptor right? Who wants their abilities disrupted? Yeah, no one.
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Aviana
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Not look into the future, manipulate things so the future happens to your will. You're a schemer if I ever saw one. :tongue:

...wait, you all want to lynch the best role to stop Q from making madness before you stop Q's ability to make madness?

This plan makes no sense to me but it's not like you need my vote anyway, so.
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LordQ
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I can see why you would think that since you don't have a power that Ophuchius can stop. Or do you? I'm not 100% on that.
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I like the idea of removing Opuchius.
Vote: Sum Nox
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Aviana
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Gemini has no power, no.
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Dorkie Corkie
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Now, why go up there when people are dying to get down here?
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LordQ
Mar 31 2013, 04:17 AM
Remember, my abilities only work to redirect if the person is using theirs.

I'm not sure I can redirect Libra since they target 2 people and I can only target one. If I were to use Libra, then my guess would be that it'd cause the vote of the person I directed to to go up by one and down by one simultaneously, which does nothing.

And Aries chooses to use their power during the day so as to be able to affect a lynch as it's undertaken, so I'm at a distinct disadvantage as I can only use my power during the night.

Look Jess, it's not right to go after me purely because OH LOOK HE CAN DO SOMETHING KILL HIM. If that's what you want to do, Libra, for instance, is far worse than me as they, unlike me, can solo win. And referring to Libra and Aries as toys? Rude.


Libra cannot solo win. I'm fairly certain I made it clear in the role that they cannot use their ability on themself, so they couldn't do anything with it in a final two.

LordQ
Mar 31 2013, 05:20 AM
I can see why you would think that since you don't have a power that Ophuchius can stop. Or do you? I'm not 100% on that.


Ophuchius can stop -every- role but Gemini. This is different from Pisces, who can't redirect abilities that are triggered such as Cancer or Taurus. Or win conditions like Gemini.

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LordQ
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Ooh, that does make it easier for Libra then.
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Dorkie Corkie
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Corie fell asleep super early last night and missed the update time. Oops. She's also really sad that Sum died. ;-;

Dead: Sum Nox - Ophiuchus.

NIGHT FIVE GO!
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Dorkie Corkie
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Not much happened, probably because killing just couldn't happen. Sad face.

DAY FIVE GO!
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Daymafter
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I'm sorry that you couldn't kill anyone Corie, does this help?

vote:LordQ
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LordQ
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Aah, here it is. I've been waiting.

Aries is the only role left that can force a solo win. I think they'd be the best person to go after, personally. I used my ability as Pisces to redirect Aries onto Taurus so that both are taken out, and one of the roles that automatically joint wins is also taken out if Aries uses his power. So I'd like to get rid of Aries and either kill Dayafter or force a lynch change.

Vote: Dayafter.
Edited by LordQ, Apr 3 2013, 04:46 AM.
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Aviana
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Oh, is Dayafter Aries? I am way cool with this plan, weirdly enough, but I want to hear if he'll say any differently first.
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Alright this may just be because I just got up and aren't awake yet but...how exactly could Aries, or anyone really, solo win with a revealed Taurus out in the open? You said it yourself that Aries would die if redirected onto Taurus so...

Vote: Q

But could change my mind depending on his response
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LordQ
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The point is that Aries can solo win and is the only role capable of doing so.

Getting rid of him now also allows us to get rid of Taurus, who would automatically win otherwise.
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