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Tengen Toppa Mafia
Topic Started: Apr 7 2013, 09:44 AM (584 Views)
Aviana
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Okay, I am just trying to formulate a setup for the upcoming Nuzdorke game. You guys can help me if you want.

Roles


Speed Chart -

Kamina
Cytomander
Everyone else?

I was actually going to do a ton more brainstorming before posting this, but I decided I wanted to go take a shower instead, so I'll get back to this after that. In the meantime, feel free to throw ideas in here, including further role development for named roles, additional roles that should be used, whatever. In case it wasn't obvious, I wasn't planning to use stuff from the antispiral arc.
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DannyTurtle
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DAI GURREN


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Viral could be looking to prove himself or something. Wins and leaves if he visits Kamina, Adiane, and Lord Genome in the game? Maybe even in that order. Would possibly stop their action that night/day in the case of Genome.
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Aviana
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I'm hoping to avoid too many roles with conditions based off of who they visit. Honestly I had only thought maybe Kamina and Simon would get some sort of a boost from Kamina looking out for him because of their dynamic? I'm not sure. I'll have to give this all more consideration. But in the case of Viral, I really dislike that because say if Adiane gets lynched day one, he's screwed. Stuff like that.
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Nia could have protection from all the mafia's abilities, including night kills, except Lord Genome's kill.
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DannyTurtle
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[20:12:15] DannyTurtle: Driver is a super fun role.
[20:12:22] DannyTurtle: Perhaps you can make Cytomander a driver? :V
[20:12:23] Jessi Summers: ...I mean, mafia driver, yay we lynched them, but it still sucks some of the fun out. :V
[20:12:28] Jessi Summers: Duuuuuude.
[20:12:42] Jessi Summers: If I can put a driver in and have it balanced I am all over that.
[20:12:45] Jessi Summers: Can you put that in the thread?
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If anything, wouldn't Simon get stronger after Kamina dies? Say, after a phase or two where he's weak.
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I don't know how many relational roles I want to have. I might change Kamina's death thing if I can think of something else. I just think if they all end up being all related and stuff things could get messy.
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Bumping this thread since I need to get this done by Saturday at latest. Reading suggestions now.
Haven't read them yet, but just because this comes up a bit. I'm thinking the only role relation that should be going on is some of the roles changing a bit after or when Kamina dies. Viral's role is probably going to revolve around a Kamina hunt. Maybe. Yeah sure.
Edited by Aviana, Apr 25 2013, 02:33 PM.
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I approve.
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Oh, wait, I see something I don't like in the setup already. If both Leeron and Kamina's powers are left as is then hypothetically Leeron could just give Kamina vests forever and poor Viral's stuck, unless Adiane hooks Leeron or something. Maybe Viral's kill(s) could go through protection or maybe Leeron could just give out guns instead? I kind of like the idea of there not being much protection after Kamina dies, honestly, because then everyone would have to be all reckless and cool. Yes. Leeron can just be a gunsmith.
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Viral is currently a Kamina investigator/one time killer. Still thinking on the others, but whatever it is Nia does, she doesn't do it until Kamina's dead.
Someone has reminded me Rossiu exists and he really should have a role.
Well maybe not. He didn't really do much season 1.
Edited by Aviana, Apr 25 2013, 06:38 PM.
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If you were doing Season 2, I would've suggested making him like Viral, but for Simon instead of Kamina, because clearly Simon is a criminal.

Boota could be a Simon shield, so if Simon was going to take the hit Boota would die instead.
Rossiu replaced Kamina spot in Lagann after he died so maybe you could have something involving that.
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Simon is worst criminal. The issue I have with the second Rossiu idea is I really want minimal protection for the game after Kamina dies - the Simon idea I have in the OP right now obviously involves some protection, but it comes at a higher cost. Anyway Rossiu taking over Lagann sounds like Rossiu taking over Kamina's role, and that's something I'd like to avoid. If it can be incorporated without that happening then by all means.

By the way, the OP has a lot of new ideas that you should check out, but the game isn't anywhere close to done.
(Right now mafia is a little too powerful and Viral needs help.)
Kamina's role has changed a bit and Viral's role has been replaced with complaining.
Edited by Aviana, Apr 25 2013, 07:39 PM.
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I like all of Dai Gurren's roles, but making Rossiu a Mason would be dumb, because all that happens is that he'll kill himself by trying to convert a bad guy. Which I guess would help village slightly because if there's a clear they'll know who he visited, and I guess he can gather clears by masoning them which is a bonus. But it wouldn't be too powerful, you could throw in if he dies all other masons die too and that should be spot on balancing.

Oh, with Boota, how about he finds out who Simon is at the start of day 2 or something, I'd say from start but it seems a bit ehhhh.

That's some good complaining for Viral's role. I'd suggest having him immune to night kills because immortal in the series, he seems to be a good hunter (episode 3) and even without that he commands a small group of beastmen who could check things out for him, so he could visit whoever and find out their role, obviously pretty powerful so if he visits the dude that Kamina is protecting he'd get Kamina as a result which would throw him off for a bit, and then just slap the one night kill on there too and he'll have a pretty good chance.

And yeah everything else seems good. If you need more help I'm not doing anything today. :V
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All right, so no on him being a Mason. I do feel like he needs something, though, I just don't know whaaaat. Sigh.

I suppose something simple like that for Boota could work, sure.

Spoilery reason for Viral's immortality, don't look.

Because of that, I'm not sure about making him immune to night kills or anything, although I suppose he's slippery and stubborn enough that I could get away with it? Hmmmm. I dunno, I guess right now the main issue is he shows up as a beastman to investigations, which it wouldn't make sense for him to show up as anything else, but I'm not sure how to balance that.
Okay, Rossiu can stop a lynch now once per game. I'm satisfied with that for him.

I'm thinking I just need to iron out Viral and then I'll throw the game on Nuzdorke and maybe still take some edits until it's time for it to start.
Viral's role has been updated for hopefully the final time. I'm finding artstuff and putting this on Nuzdorke but until the game starts if you see any balance issues it's totally available to change.
Edited by Aviana, Apr 26 2013, 07:22 AM.
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