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About Kirby's Modship
Topic Started: 20/06/2013 - 10:50 pm (1,003 Views)
Post #1 20/06/2013 - 10:50 pm SHS_JJEmpire
For disciplinary reasons, one of the moderators, Moderator Kirby, has been demoted. Pidgeotto, the runner-up for consideration for this term, has been appointed in his place.

I posted this so you all understand what happened in order for Kirby to lose his modship. If you wish to discuss this, do so maturely and reasonably. Otherwise, move on.

And to Kirby, don't post here. If you have anything to say, either PM me or talk to me on Skype.

Thanks for understanding,
SHS_JJEmpire & the SHS Staff
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Post #2 20/06/2013 - 10:52 pm Yuri Lowell
[5-3] Vote of No Confidence

should remove this from the charter. Its never used anymore.
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Post #3 20/06/2013 - 11:23 pm KrystalSharz
It was used for Youtwo, that was kinda recent.
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Post #4 20/06/2013 - 11:26 pm Yuri Lowell
It was not. There was no vote which is how a veto works where the clan decides what they want.
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Post #5 21/06/2013 - 01:28 am Mr ChristmasEve
a vonc hasnt happened since I was vonc'd over a year and a half ago..
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Post #6 21/06/2013 - 01:31 am New Member
What is even happening? What'd he do?
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Post #7 21/06/2013 - 05:58 pm rez
if you're not going to vonc kirby then put him back up as moderator, you got 1 piece of evidence now go find the other 2 pieces he's still capable of moderator duties despite one incident

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Post #8 21/06/2013 - 06:20 pm Yuri Lowell
Im with rez. I dont see why certain members get what they want. This case is al blown up because the staff can't folliw the rules and guide liness set by the admins. Voncs must happen unless there was an extreme issue such as he banned somekne for no reason or did something to damage shs nit because some members do not like him.
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[12:44:36 PM] Mr. Green (Jakyl Lyx 9): and when i get elected im taking a 2 month vactaion XD
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Post #9 21/06/2013 - 08:13 pm SHS_JJEmpire
Kirby was demoted because of the way he stepped out of line with Nate. This kind of reaction has happened before with him (being out of line), and he showed that he had deep issues with Nate, so we decided that he shouldn't be trusted with modship if he wasn't going to be reasonable around a specific member.

However, though, because of some new findings and people's concerns about this, I'll re-open the staff discussion about Kirby's demotion. I'm even going to ask about whether Kirby should get a proper VoNC instead of a straight-out demotion.

In the meantime, I'm going to leave this topic open so the staff can hear your opinions, and I want you all to be mature and reasonable. I don't want any topics like this, I don't want to see any rage-posts, and I most certainly don't want to see anything that'd contradict your claim on how you want to maturely discuss this.

And remember, this is about Kirby's demotion, not Nate or anything about him. Nate's part is being taken care of, and he's being discussed by the staff also. Speaking of which, I don't want Nate or Kirby posting in here at all, or even talking about it on the chatboxes with others.

One last thing: about VoNCs, I realize the issue there, but sometimes VoNCs aren't necessary. I can understand the need for a more consistent use though, so I'll like to refine them and make them more usable for when they're necessary. Perhaps even put certain standards on when a VoNC can be bypassed (like what Tom8er is saying), But that's another topic; this one is about Kirby's demotion, so keep it on that.

Post your opinions away. Reasonably.
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Post #10 21/06/2013 - 10:39 pm Nevrast
I think this has grown out of proportion too...

As far as Kirby's demotion thing, he didn't abuse his mod powers in any way. So imo he shouldn't lose his position; I think mod should only be lost if the powers are abused once or after excessive small infractions.

Also having an issue with a particular member is a lot different than having issues with multiple members or shs. If the worry is that it will reflect badly upon shs, well then.... the fact that this thread is here is a much poorer reflection. This probably shouldn't be up for general discussion.

I could say more but prob best for me to end it here since I'm guessing only staff know the full story and measures taken in the past/present.
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Post #11 21/06/2013 - 11:16 pm KrystalSharz
Just to clarify a bit: Kirby had in fact been warned of his behavior previously, and it had been decided by staff on a previous term that if it occurred again, Kirby would loose Modship. Thus we were acting on something that was decided before Tuesday's incident.
Edited by KrystalSharz, 21/06/2013 - 11:17 pm.
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Post #12 22/06/2013 - 12:52 am Pidgey
Im not sure what happened, but it seemed like the right decision. Treat a mod position like a job. You can't just sit there and yell at a customer. You have to be nice a polite, and kirby did not do that.
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Post #13 22/06/2013 - 01:14 am Yuri Lowell
sometimes customers need to be kicked out.
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Post #14 22/06/2013 - 01:19 am KrystalSharz
Yup and they are ;)
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Post #15 22/06/2013 - 01:29 am New Member
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21/06/2013 - 08:13 pm
Kirby was demoted because of the way he stepped out of line with Nate. This kind of reaction has happened before with him (being out of line), and he showed that he had deep issues with Nate, so we decided that he shouldn't be trusted with modship if he wasn't going to be reasonable around a specific member.

However, though, because of some new findings and people's concerns about this, I'll re-open the staff discussion about Kirby's demotion. I'm even going to ask about whether Kirby should get a proper VoNC instead of a straight-out demotion.

In the meantime, I'm going to leave this topic open so the staff can hear your opinions, and I want you all to be mature and reasonable. I don't want any topics like this, I don't want to see any rage-posts, and I most certainly don't want to see anything that'd contradict your claim on how you want to maturely discuss this.

And remember, this is about Kirby's demotion, not Nate or anything about him. Nate's part is being taken care of, and he's being discussed by the staff also. Speaking of which, I don't want Nate or Kirby posting in here at all, or even talking about it on the chatboxes with others.

One last thing: about VoNCs, I realize the issue there, but sometimes VoNCs aren't necessary. I can understand the need for a more consistent use though, so I'll like to refine them and make them more usable for when they're necessary. Perhaps even put certain standards on when a VoNC can be bypassed (like what Tom8er is saying), But that's another topic; this one is about Kirby's demotion, so keep it on that.

Post your opinions away. Reasonably.
I'm tempted to post a rage post in response to you using my picture as an example of rage posts. Totes baited me there bro.

I don't know what you guys want anyone to discuss though, the staff still hasn't said anything in this thread about what happened in the fucking first place unless you want us to guess. And if I'm guessing, it probably wasn't even nearly bad enough to drop him from moderator without a vonc that we don't do anymore.
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