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Off-topic thread!; Just post whatever
Topic Started: Jun 10 2011, 10:59 PM (107,974 Views)
Spar
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Wandering Scavenger

Actually iron is just the easiest oxidizer to acquire. You can use copper oxide, lead oxide, boron oxide, silicon oxide, chromium oxide, manganese oxide, etc. as long as the oxide is easy to break up in the reaction process. You can also replace aluminum with metals like magnesium, zinc, or titanium, but again aluminum is the easiest fuel to acquire and offers one of the hotter flames. Magnesium thermite burns much brighter than aluminum does, but it can't compete in terms of heat. Aluminum is my preference since I have much easier access to aluminum powder than I have to powdered titanium.
 
rockboy3970

yes cause you have to know a guy *go's to blackmarket Ebay*
 
Spar
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I suppose it wouldn't be impossibly tough to get powdered boron, but that's going a touch overboard. Thermite using boron as a fuel produces fire close to 4000° (almost enough to melt diamonds... almost), but you'd need a separate thermite reaction just to light the stuff. And it might also just explode, so it's probably better to leave it be. I'll stick with aluminum for it's availability and ease of use.
 
rockboy3970

:O um I have to go find some powderd boron....and some aluminum thermite
 
Spar
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It would be painstakingly time consuming to chemically separate boron though. Next to impossible to remove it from from boron carbide ceramics (used in military grade body armor and protective shielding on shuttles for atmospheric entry) or from borosilicate glass (used in chemistry glassware that is purpose made to be nonreactive to chemical reactions and heat and industrial purpose cookware). Your best bet would be to chemically separate Borax cleaner, which would take several months. You'd need a better understanding of chemistry than what I have to separate it and to prepare it for a thermite reaction. Then you'd need a two stage process win which you'd need to have the boron thermite situated below a cooler burning thermite. The process would likely require a thick metal receptacle for the lighter thermite to melt through and land in the boron thermite's receptacle. You'd also likely need to be in a wide open space with no notable vegetation as the radiant heat will ignite nearby plant-life. I'd suggest investing in some blast shielding if you intend to spectate as the heat will cause severe burns, with potential results of blindness, excessive nerve loss, permanent scarring, or death... And that's taking into account that it works right. It may just blow up. And nobody actually needs boron thermite anyways. Aluminum thermite melts through military grade titanium alloys, why use boron if the best military equipment is destroyed or rendered completely inoperable with aluminum?
 
DarkWingedDaemon
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Coreling Cruiser

Hay spar you want to help me make an aluminum thermite bomb...
 
rockboy3970

um I was planning to do it in the middle of a state park...and also I use robots to ignite the thermite duh... il just pile some scrap metal around it as I really have to get rid of some junk
 
Spar
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@DWD- Because of aluminum thermite's properties a bomb makes a poor delivery system. Thermite is a concentrated attack that requires contact with the air, more useful for burning down into something, rather than impacting things that are nearby. If you want a bomb for spreading fire use napalm over thermite. If you want one to deal excessive damage quickly use a fuel-air reaction (this is perhaps my favorite type of explosive).

@rockboy- Sounds like a bad idea in general. Destruction of government property (like a state park) isn't a minor infraction of the law and thanks to the process of separating boron, as well as the distinct high temperature damage that it would cause, it would be painfully easy to pinpoint the person doing it.
 
Deceleration
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Coreling Conquerer

It's great that you guys are discussing how to make thermite, but it's become a topic, and this is an off-topic thread.
 
rockboy3970

fine il start a thread called thermite happy
 
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