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How would you fare in a zombie apocalypse!; An old topic revived!
Topic Started: Nov 14 2013, 06:37 PM (1,381 Views)
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Coreling Conquerer

Sure. My point is, if magnetic weapons are more effective than firearms, there should be no reason why firearms are used instead. I was "tough" on the idea because I had the impression that they were less efficient. I do not fear the adaptation of new technology, that's just stupid. I would be against its adaptation if it were less useful than current technology. Which according to you, it is not.

I don't know much about how mechanized machineguns were adapted, but I'm sure that once people saw how much better they were, they became widely used.
 
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I see. I understand your point. Perhaps one day when MA weapons finally get the attention
they need, we can see them in use, along with whatever new advancements we make in
the current tech we have.

I do have to admit though, MA technology likely will not be able to achieve the ability to make
shotguns that are as strong as todays versions, much less full auto versions. Due to the
way it works. They would, however, make pretty awesome grenade launchers.
 
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Coreling Conquerer

Unless the shot was stored in a metal shell that bursts upon leaving the barrel? Also, in another thread I discussed with Spar the idea of magnetically accelerating plasma, which is basically really hot gas that conducts electricity due to electrons being in such a high energy state. Apparently it woukd function like a superheated flamethrower, assuming the rails don't melt from the heat, spraying a jet of plasma that would spread out and incinerate everything in close range.
 
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Its possible with strong enough metals. They could also be coated with heat retardants too.
Also, the metal shell that burst upon leaving the barrel is basically a grenade.
 
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Coreling Conquerer

Not really, grenades explode at their target. My idea would involve exploding as soon as it left the barrel, effectively simulating a shotgun blast. The force that propels the shot would not be from the exploding shell, but instead from the magnetic acceleration. The shell's purpose is to hold the shot together while it is being accelerated, and by "burst" I mean the shell breaks open to release the shot. A problem with this would be the spread of the shot- since the shot is accelerated in one direction it wouldn't spread out as much as a conventional shotgun, making it more focused.

Plasma is extremely hot, the rails would have to be constantly cooled with liquid helium or something while the plasma is constantly heated with a nuclear reactor. Which is complicated by the fact that they would have to remain in contact the whole time to conduct electricity.
 
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Well, if you're attempting to conduct a charge using superheated plasma to be fired as a sort of spray, why not just use molten metal?

If your purpose is to go all mass effect in this hizouse, then superheated plasma isn't a viable option, instead, molten metal is still best.
 
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By burst i assumed you meant a literal bursting shell, as that wold propell projectiles all over, not in one direction.
However, if your intention is a shotgun, i suppose a mechanism where instead there is a sort of sling being loaded
with the metal balls and accelerated; stopped when the sling reaches the end, and the balls fly out.

Would be decent enough of a spread. Shotgun spread was a pretty big problem anyway. : P
 
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My air gun barrel is designed to curve out like a trumpet or some shit like that. This makes it so that it would have a large spread.

Common logic though.


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Coreling Conquerer

Molten metal is heavy, and in the presence of an atmosphere would quickly slow down limiting the range of a molten metal railgun. Metal also has a relatively small specific heat capacity, meaning it would carry less heat to the target, and would radiate a lot of that heat on its way there. Compare that to plasma, which releases an enormous amount of heat as it cools down, therefore causing much more harm to the target. It's also lighter than metal, making it easier to transport it as ammo. Not to mention the problem with the molten metal partially solidifying inside the railgun barrel, which might be a problem when you're trying to launch it.

A sling that pushes the shot would work, I guess, though the sling would have to be moved back to the other end of the railgun after every shot, reducing the rate of fire. Not to mention that this now involves moving parts, which increase complexity in manufacturing and can wear out, requiring maintenance. Also, when the sling reaches the end of the barrel it has to be stopped so that it doesn't go flying out along with the shot, and slowing that down would not only cause lots of strain on the barrel's structure, which, over repeated uses, could cause the barrel to break, but also would make a secondary reaction force sort of like an anti-recoil, where the whole gun is pulled forwards instead of being pushed backwards. As you probably know, applying two forces in opposite directions on something, back and forth, again and again, also causes strain. I use this to break paperclips with my bare hands.

I still think an air gun is stupid. You need a lot of power to compress air to the point where it can be fired with enough force to be effective as a weapon, and it's really impractical. Especially since the zombie you just knocked over will get right up again once you're run out of compressed air and kill you while you're busy compressing more air. The power supply alone for such a thing would weigh much more than the weight you'd save by not needing to carry ammo, and that's not including the high-power air compressor and extremely strong pressure vessel to store the air. Also, having a flaring barrel to spread out the air you're shooting is a bad idea. Are you going to really hold off any zombies by blowing some spread-out air over them?
 
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A few things.

Molten metal is far cheaper to use than plasma.
Molten metal can be constantly heated by microwave radiation on immense levels in the barrel, while stronger metals serve
as guide raids.

Then that brings the question of why the fuck even bother with plasma when you have a SWMW Emitter.
Im talking serious shit here. Microwave guns are a real thing, the millitary uses them. This shit, if ramped up
to 11, can melt through tank armor. No joke here.

Lastly, I prefer soundwave weaponry. Though fucking loud ( wow, really? ), it is far better than air.
However, its only suitable for traps, considering handheld sound weaponry is rather impractical.
 
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