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| Smallvillian | Wed May 12, 2004 1:51 pm Post #1 |
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Jonathan's deal with Jor-el causes a rift between he and Martha??? Come on people!! It's bad enough you messed with Jonathan but now you have to mess with the Kent marriage??? AKKK!!! What the hell did he promise??? |
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| Whitetiger4 | Wed May 12, 2004 3:42 pm Post #2 |
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Smallville Tigress... On the Prowl! *GROWL*
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argh!! That better be a rift they friggin' fix! :fuming: Dammit! :wall: |
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| Renee | Wed May 12, 2004 8:10 pm Post #3 |
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Crikey! That's all we DON'T need!! They better fix this "rift" pretty darn quick!! (And putting it so soon after the best Kent family scene ever, too! Sometimes I really think the writers have NO sense at all.) Of course, all the Superman stories have Jonathan and Martha together all their lives. Plus Pete's parents just split up ("you're the only man left standing in the nuclear family camp, Clark") and I doubt they'd want to use that twice in a row. So those are good signs, I think (crossing fingers). But if they make an end-of-season cliffhanger out of this. . . . Oh, boy. We may have to borrow Jonathan's rifle. |
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| Renee | Thu May 13, 2004 4:19 am Post #4 |
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I've had a little time to think about this, and you know, I guess it would be strange if the news DIDN'T cause some kind of a problem between them. Think of all the things we've speculated that the deal might be; any one of them would make Martha really upset. And if it were a promise that Jonathan would let Clark go off to some mysterious place, that would make her hopping mad! They haven't shown an awful lot of it (I wish they had), but Martha's had a very tough year watching Jonathan go through so much and taking care of him, at least as much as he'll let her, and in recent days knowing that he's keeping some kind of secret from her. Not to mention trying to help Clark through a whole lot of stuff too. Maybe this is just the straw that breaks the camel's back. And it might also be a plot device to make it easier for what's-her-name to tempt Clark to go away. Pete's gone, Lana's going, his friendship with Lex is getting very strained -- and then if, on top of all that, his parents, the anchor of his life, are having a big falling out and he sees himself as the cause of it . . . well, that could be the straw that breaks HIS back. The really sad thing is that Jonathan has been carrying this thing alone for so long, and this will make him feel more alone than ever. (And we all try to jump through the TV screen yelling, "We're here for you, Jonathan! We've got lots of shoulders for you to cry on!" :bounce: ) But we've seen "rifts" between them before, in "Insurgence" for instance, and it's always worked out. The more I think about it, the more I doubt that this one will lead to any permanent problem. (In fact, I'm keeping my hopes up for the mother of all sweet, mushy Kent family scenes somewhere in the season 4 premiere, once all this weirdness is over with!) But still, I wish they weren't going in that direction, even if it's only for one episode. :*( |
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| Renee | Sat May 15, 2004 5:24 pm Post #5 |
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I have a question for those who have seen the finale spoilers -- but please, DON'T answer it if it would mean giving too much away. I still don't want to be "spoiled." All I want to know is this: Based on what you know, does it make sense to you that the deal might cause a "rift"? If you're afraid of saying too much, a yes or no answer will be fine. Thanks!! |
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| Smallvillian | Sat May 15, 2004 6:40 pm Post #6 |
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I don't know. For me, I think I would understand that Jonathan did what he felt he had to do to save Clark because as a parent you put your child first but I think I'd be mad too, just as an emotional response. The only thing Jonathan had any control over was the choice he made when given an option. That choice was to save Clark at any cost--as he said in Pheonix. I think possibly, she would be mad that he made such a rash decision without even discussing it with her (I assume) when she stood to possibly lose so much. That I could understand completely. I'd be pissed about that too. But I'm still not sure jonathan was fully aware of what the consequences would be. He certainly didn't seem to know earlier in the season so I'm not sure how much she could really blame him other than not telling her what was going on. |
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| Renee | Sat May 15, 2004 6:45 pm Post #7 |
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I think that makes sense. (I've continued to wonder all along if he himself knew what exactly the deal entailed.) Again, thanks. That "rift" thing has just been bugging me, and I wanted to get an opinion from someone "in the know," even though I don't want to be "in the know" myself! :) |
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| Smallvillian | Sat May 15, 2004 7:07 pm Post #8 |
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Oh, he knew the actual deal. It's not that. Have I confused you now? ;) |
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| Renee | Sat May 15, 2004 7:57 pm Post #9 |
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Um, a bit. But never mind -- you did tell me what I wanted to know, so let's just leave it there. I'm still afraid of finding out too much! :) |
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| Whitetiger4 | Sat May 15, 2004 7:58 pm Post #10 |
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Smallville Tigress... On the Prowl! *GROWL*
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Yup! :wall: :rofl: |
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| Renee | Thu May 20, 2004 2:26 pm Post #11 |
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This part didn't turn out nearly as badly as I was fearing. Yes, Martha was furious -- and really, who could blame her? -- and they had a big fight, but I don't think it was a marriage-shattering fight. It was more a typical husband-wife fight over something that was worrying them both (if you can call a fight over an evil Kryptonian presence on the farm "typical"). And they were talking normally to each other in their last scene together. I'll bet Jonathan had spent that night on the couch, though! I'd just like to get everyone's take on this -- do you think all is going to be forgiven when Martha finds Jonathan unconscious, and eventually finds out what happened? Or might she carry some of that anger into the fourth season? I think when she thinks it over she'll realize he couldn't have done anything else, and that she probably would have done the same. But she might still be upset that he didn't talk to her first, or tell her about it afterwards. Then again, she might be too worried about him, not to mention too worried about how they're going to get Clark back, to stew over it. I'm hoping they get it straightened out very quickly -- when Clark comes home, battling parents are the very last thing he'll need to deal with! |
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