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who would win(after reading my thread)
Naruto 6 (46.2%)
0 (0%)
Sasuke 2 (15.4%)
1 (7.7%)
Tie 4 (30.8%)
Total Votes: 13
Bsm Naruto Vs Ems Sasuke; who'd win in a fight
Topic Started: Apr 5 2014, 04:07 PM (481 Views)
Desolator
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I thought I'd make a thread about this since there's some VS debates below, plus, I'm curious as to what the opinions of the people here are. Most of this is a cut-and-paste job from my post on another site at one ponit.

Detailed explanation as to why Naruto beats Sasuke.

First of all, a Perfect Susanoo's destructive power only rivals a biju as stated by Madara himself about his own susanoo, meaning, at best, it equals a TBB.

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Just thought I'd throw that out there. Now, the thing about BSM is the sage enhancement. Where I was posting had a popular "no feats" argument. There is no feats of Sasuke having a PS the size of Madara's and being able to use enton with PS, In fact, there's no feats of Sasuke using anything stronger than this susanoo without enhancement.


So, if no feats means that Naruto doesn't get Sage Mode enhancement for his biju mode, Sasuke cannot go beyond this state with susanoo.


Now, on to senjutsu enhancement. I'd like to address that ninjutsu gets huge buffs with senjutsu as stated by Fukasaku.

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So this right here refutes any argument that senjutsu does not enhance ninjutsu by much. Also, there's this statement.

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Since the Kurama cloak's attacks are senjutsu, it falls under the category that natural energy is perfectly balanced with it, and as such, any claims that Kurama cloak is enhanced less than base Naruto was is automatically refuted.


So how much is the Kurama cloak enhanced? Well, let's use a comparison.

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The fact that curse mark, a fake sage mode, managed to maintain the ability to equal ransengan means that the level of enhancement is on par with a 1-tail cloak. So how much enhancement does a 1-tail cloak have? Well here's a scan demonstrating how much.

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So when it wasn't even visible, the 9 tails chakra enhanced Kakashi's kamui over 3X. Then he went so far as to say that it got much stronger than that level of enhancement. This makes it clear that the Kurama cloak is enhanced to very high levels and is significantly stronger than full Kurama, so any posts about full Kurama are invalid.


Now, on to the actual fight.



TBBs enhanced by senjutsu would definitely do damage to a Perfect Susanoo. Will it one-shot it? No. Will it do damage, yes. Same with PS slashes. It won't completely destroy the Kurama cloak with one try especially if it guards itself with tails.

It's a popular argument that TBBs take a long time to form and will be easily interrupted. However, this is false. Here, Kurama made a huge TBB very quickly.

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Here Naruto made one quickly as well.

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So it goes without saying that TBBs the size of a biju's mouth are formed very quickly since large ones only require the length of time of a sentence to form.


Amaterasu and enton. This is the only real problem in my opinion. Will it burn through the Kurama cloak? Yes, but not instantly. It burns pretty slowly.

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Enton and amaterasu wouldn't really work as an attack during this fight, but more like a timer. Naruto has a temporary amount of time to beat Sasuke before the flames consume his cloak. However, Naruto may very well be able to beat Sasuke within that time.

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Even base Hashirama's wooden hands were able to catch the PS blade and cause it's effect to not work. So what's stopping Naruto from doing this with his tails?

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This neutralizes the destructive power of PS. Sasuke will have to resort to using enton to burn his way out, but as I've said, it takes time. This could enable Naruto to make larger TBBs which can do massive damage to the perfect susanoo.


However, Naruto doesn't need to make himself a target to fight Perfect susanoo. Naruto can choose to only manifest Kurama's head, and use it to make biju-sized TBBs.

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If Naruto uses clones to keep Sasuke busy. (Sasuke can't just ignore the attacks from the clones even if he knows they're clones) When they do that, Naruto can prep this TBB up to destroy the PS or damage it severely. There's nothing full Kurama demonstrated that equals a TBB of this size let alone enhanced by senjutsu.


This is why Naruto's stronger.



Edit: added my own vote so I can see the poll.
Edited by Desolator, Apr 5 2014, 04:11 PM.
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StressBall
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Funeral of Smiles
Naruto wins. Super Ultra Hax Sage Mode Bijuudama= a rekt/10 Sauce
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TRYTOBEATMENOW
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Captain of Akatsuki/ Supporter of ED/ Creator of the Pokemon League
The whole point I made the versus wasn't to debate something that is clearly seen. This is like comparing goku vs vegeta, they have a decent comparison but everyone knows who is stronger. The point of versus is to take people who would never have a chance to meet and have similar powers and styles like when I created ichigo vs yusuke. They're able to fight since yusuke will be able to see ichigo due to using spiritual energy like a fullbring. That's what makes VS creative and not easily determined.
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Frankster
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im not gonna go by facts im gonna guy bye one thing.
naruto said if him and saskue fought they would both die. so from that knowing naruto he would probably beat saskue then kill himself done.

dont even argue me
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Anthony
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Naruto League Staff Member/Team Asuma Captain/Ginyu Supporter
Naruto solos
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