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DragonBallZ What If Senarios; you ask what if, i'll tell you what if
Topic Started: Oct 3 2014, 09:25 PM (393 Views)
GuildMaster Andy
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The Dbz story is huge and complex but have you ever asked what if this was different, this is what this topic is for

Rules

(With your scenario you must explain how it could happen if you don't know how it could happen don't ask plz)

(I will analyze Filler, Gt, battle of gods, and other movies, but not the garlic Jr. arc cause I've never seen it)

(Don't think your scenario is stupid I will analyze practically anything don't worry I'm not bitter)


That's pretty much it, don't respond to others questions and don't ask questions about other anime's this is strictly dbz plz and thank you
Edited by GuildMaster Andy, Oct 3 2014, 09:29 PM.
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WickedPhantom
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What If #1-
What would have happened if Majin Vegeta did not listen to reasoning and continued to fight with Son Goku?

Explanation- How would their fight continuing effect, Firstly Vegeta/Goku's Physical Condition and Power, If Vegeta Managed to kill goku since he is already dead (Since its been clearly stated if you die while your dead your existence fades entirely) how would that affect the scenario (Such as the fact goten and trunks would have never fused) Secondly how would it affect Majin Buu's "Power Level" since he was gaining strength from all surroundings, would he become so strong that Gohan (Being the only strong fighter with Vegeta/Goku gone and Gotenks never existing) Thirdly how would it affect Gohan since his fathers "Day of Life" is drained by fighting and even if he managed to beat Vegeta would be returned to "otherworld almost immediately" this means the chances of the Z-Sword and Old Kai are Significantly lower, Fourthly how would it affect Buu's Forms- Since he will already be stronger, and Gohan has not received Mystic Powers yet or at all after Buu became Super Buu would he even be stoppable, without having to absorb anyone?
Fithly- How would it affect Babidi, since Goku never will receive a fight with "Fat Buu" chances are Buu will not turn on him. this is the only plausible way for Super Buu not to exist. However their is always the possibility that the amount of power Majin Buu receives From Vegeta and Goku "force" him into his Super Buu form upon hatching Finally - Does this complete distortion possibly force Goku to attempt to pull the Z-Sword and potentially have Elder Kai create a Mystic Goku, and give his life to him?
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GuildMaster Andy
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If Vegeta did not listen to goku eventually goku would have to end the fight by turning ssj 3 and either badly injuring or killing Vegeta if he injure him it would branch off differently to him being killed I will first go over the scenario where he is killed:

If vegeta is killed he would obviously receive a zenkai boost from the goku fight which btw would be a huge boost as for gohan and supreme kai the same thing in the anime would happen taking gohan to supreme kai's world then goku as ssj3 would fight buu for a very short time then he would go back to otherworld he would arrive on supreme kai world and gohan would be training with the z sword he would train he would break it elder kai would be released elder kai would make mystic gohan he would return and fight buu as for buu, babidi would still be around and evil and good buu would be separated babidi would side with evil buu, he would absorb good buu super buu is created but I then think he would kill babidi no question because he doesn't like to be controlled as for alive z fighters they're wouldn't be any besides dende but he doesn't really count gotten and trunks would be turned to candy and eaten by buu however piccillo would not and would survive gohan would show up and fight buu and I honestly belive buu would be killed and the series would end there, gohan would wish back all the z fighters besides goku who wouldn't want to come back through this logic vegeta would return as well what would the future hold in store: gohan would be the strongest z fighter for a while and because goku isn't around would stay in shape but still be a scholar and what not, vegeta would probably train to become a ssj3 with trunks by the time gt came around vegeta would be ssj3 and trunks would be ssj2 because vegeta would have prevented him from getting lazy, same with gotten though he would be a ssj 2 he would be light years behind trunks in my mind because he would only train with gohan and not as often as trunks would train with vegeta I will not analyze gt but as for uub, he wouldn't ever exist in dbz that's pretty much it for the vegeta is killed scenario.

As for the badly injured vegeta, goku would take him to the lookout and then would fight buu after that he would return to the lookout and teach the kids the fusion technigue by that time someone would have given vegeta a senzu bean he would then go and fight buu and killhimself or get killed neither really change anything. in this scenario its pretty much the same to the main series but just vegeta died later

I hope this answered your question, and for the future, you don't have to explain that much as for this scenario I like this scenario its really interesting, thank you, and your welcome!
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WickedPhantom
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I disagree almost entirely, this is how i believe the scenario would play out

Instance #1- Vegeta kills Goku because he is too distracted to fight Vegeta (Most Likely)
If Vegeta and Goku kept fighting, Goku would sense Buu getting stronger as they kept fighting and would refuse to use SSJ3 or even fight at full strength in Fear of giving Buu too much power.
However Vegeta would not give a damn about Majin Buu gaining Strength, because all that matters is "Defeating Kakarot" knowing that Vegeta would not stop fighting until Goku was defeated Goku then makes a heroic decision to give his life to stop buus resurrection. Considering the fact Goku is already dead he would cease to exist. but having received Latent Energy to the (Known Timeline Buu) the Buu in this Scenario will be so much stronger that "Fat Buu" is equal in strength to the (Known Timeline) Super Buu, being so powerful immediately allows Buu to kill Vegeta, Piccolo, Goten, Trunks before Vegeta has the chance to perform Final Explosion. Leaving only Gohan and Supreme Kai alive (Suggesting S.Kai Teleports them to his planet) Where Gohan pulls the Z-Sword easily, but without his father's Guidance the Sword is never broken, and Elder Kai is never released. So Gohan trains with the Z-Sword thinking he is gaining great power, while on earth Fat Buu has turned on Babidi and produced the Evil Buu....Making Super Buu, however Super Buu with his limitless power quickly destroys Planet Earth, and the dragon balls....meaning that all of the Z-Fighters (Except Gohan) are lost forever, this thought Drives Gohan into SSJ3, and Supreme Kai tries to calm the young Saiyan warrior down, reminding him the Namekian Dragon could recreate earth and wish back the Guardian (Dende) with 1 remaining wish, Thus the planet was restored as was the Dragon Balls, and the final wish resurrected Majin Vegeta. Supreme Kai then returns Gohan to earth to train with Vegeta, (Super Buu still is alive) once back on Earth Gohan and Vegeta Face the toughest foe...A very Angry Majin (Super Buu) after overpowering Super Buu quite easily, Super Buu pulls a dirty trick and ends up absorbing Vegeta making him to strong for Gohan to defeat alone.......
This scenario has a very grim ending
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GuildMaster Andy
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vegeta isn't strong enough to kill goku period

and trust me if goku kept fighting he knows all that power gos to buu and would kill or injure vegeta to stop the fight in full power ssj2 or 3
Edited by GuildMaster Andy, Oct 4 2014, 03:26 PM.
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WickedPhantom
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Completely incorrect if Goku allows Vegeta to kill him, then Vegeta can kill him
And Goku knowing that Buu gets stronger the more power they exert he would refrain from SSJ3 like he did and may power down even if the fight continues much further than it did allowing Vegeta to kill him
Edited by WickedPhantom, Oct 4 2014, 03:27 PM.
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GuildMaster Andy
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goku would not because he knows he would then cease to exist

goku would kill vegeta even if it meant buu being stronger its either getting rid of earth best hope by getting killed by vegeta or goku defeating him and being able to atleast fight buu if buu was to strong hed leave go to otherworld and train with gohan z sword breaks elder kai releases gohans potential and gohan go's to earth to kill the super buu that about in between normal super buu and gotenks buu though it would be a hard fight but if he avoids being absorbed buu would be killed
Edited by Burnarator, Oct 4 2014, 04:29 PM.
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WickedPhantom
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I still disagree
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ToBeWolf
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Guys, how about this for a What-If?

What if...Goku never got his body back from Ginyu?

Example 1: Vegeta outright murders Goku's body with Ginyu inside it.
Example 2: Goku doesn't intercept the change from Ginyu to Vegeta in time, Ginyu gets Vegeta's body.


Consequence: Goku never achieves Super Saiyan status as he is no longer a Saiyan. Frieza wipes the floor with everyone, assuming Ginyu doesn't. Galactic Tyrrany ensues.
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GuildMaster Andy
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interesting... this will be a huge challenge
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