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Season 7 Rule Changes and update IMPORTANT!
Topic Started: Sep 27 2015, 07:49 PM (4,365 Views)
Squee913
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Hello everyone!!! It has been far too long since the end of season 6, but we are back in action and have a lot of changes to go over! I'm going to jump right in:

Fist and foremost, The league is moving to a once a year model. The pre-season will start on the first week of January and the season will run through June-ish. This might seem bad to some, but the truth is that it will help keep the league fresh and fun. All League all the time tends to burn people out. Knowing exactly when the new season will start each year will give people time to unwind and refresh for a new season.

Now on to the first of two BIG changes for season 7. We have been using a trainer program called Sparkling!x3j for a while to allow us to use the portara we need to for a few season now. It has an interesting feature that allows us to increase the AI even higher than the original game can. We have held off on using this until we could test it thoroughly. We have tested the hell out of it and now feel it is something worth trying for season 7. What does that mean? A lot actually. Since the matches are all Com vs COM, the difficulty level determines how derpy or good players are. Our testing shows that this higher difficulty level makes players a lot more competent. Melee is a bit more prominent and players are better skilled at countering and combos. That's not to say B2s are gone, they are still used just as much. It's just that players seem to handle melee better over all. B1 also see a lot more use, and players are better at following up after stuns or solar flares. There is a lot less derping when it comes to standing there and eating a B2 for no reason or just sitting there wondering what to do next while your opponent charges an ultimate. Again, it's not that it never happens, it just happens less. Most interestingly, this new difficulty seems to have a greater effect on weaker players than stronger ones. Here is our best theory as to why: The top players in the league were already very consistent, while the worst players just derperd a lot. That means that this new difficulty level has less effect on the stronger players who already performed at a high level. This has the effect of bringing more balance to the league. We are not suggesting that Hercule is not going to be just as good as Nam or Kid Buu. We are saying that our testing shows that he will be closer to them. We ran some tests where we took the bottom 4 players of season 6 and pit them against the top 4 players of season 6, with their appropriate builds and placement. The results were impressive. The top four usually won, but it was never a blow out and the bottom four generally held their own. What this means is that teams that had a few great players and a few horrible players will now have a few great players and a few decent to good players. Smart teams can use this to change the entire power balance of the league.

This new difficulty level is not without it's fair share of limitations though. There are two very big issues that must be pointed out. The first is that tagging out is now very rare. Most people fight until they die and the next person comes in. The up side to this, is that there are almost never any line up changes. Teams can now choose who comes out when and be fairly confident that order will be maintained. The lack of tagging will make some people sad, and we agree. It was fun to watch and saved a lot of matches. On the other hand, it also gave teams that tagged out a lot, an advantage over teams that did not. Considering that who tags and when is completely out of the control of the coaches and supporters, it may not be such a bad thing that this area is now more balanced. It will also allow teams to put more strategy into who comes out when so they can try to counter other teams.

The second limitation to go over is a big one. As I said above, B1s are used a lot more, including healing B1s. This is highly depended on the AI used, but any teams with healing B1 moves should know that the following restrictions apply...

The normal bans of Power Body, Spiritual Control, Dragon Spirit, Secret Measures, Kibito's Secret Art, Dragon Heart, Dragon Beat, Yajirobe AI, Ginyu AI, Chiaotzu AI still apply. But we are also banning Light Body due the the fact that instead of attempting a healing B1 a couple of times in a season, they attempt them about once a match. In addition, any team that has a healing B1 player in the match is restricted from eternal life on any player (much like teams with healing transformations) Dende's healing is still allowed for now. Also keep in mind that we are still testing out different AI and may have to restrict you from more down the line. Please understand this is not an attempt to limit you, but an attempt to keep things fair.

ALSO BLADES, YAJIROBE IS LIMITED TO EITHER USING TIEN OR FREEZA AI! I'm sorry, I know that is a really harsh penalty, but there is no other way. On every single other AI, he tries to use senzu bean way too often. Fear not... you should see him on these AI! And BUUS, YOU WILL BE FORCED TO USE GOHAN BUU! I'm sorry, but the fact that you guys would be able to have three healing B1s in at the same time is just a bit too much healing on this AI. Especially since every healing character tends to want to use their healing b1 around once a match, instead of maybe twice a season.

We do not have any other new limitations at this time, but keep in mind that this new difficulty is like a soft reset for the league. It is going to take a lot of fine tuning so bare with us if we have to make changes. rest assured we will fully explain any new restriction or changes added so you understand them. This soft reset also applies to every team. Under this new difficulty, you can not be sure exactly how your players will act. You old builds might still work, but they might now be suited for completely different builds. Testers are now going to start using this new difficulty for any requested tests. My advice is to explore everything and see what works for your team now. You have a lot of time before the pre-season. Use it well!!!!

Now on to the second big change for season 7 and this one should excite a lot of you! We are borrowing a concept form the Naruto League and implementing free agents. In addition to the five people who are on your team, everyone will be getting a sixth player THAT DOES NOT NEED TO FIT YOUR THEME! Thus the "Free Agent" term. Here is how it will work:

Matches will still be 4 on 4 and rotations will still be the same. Of the 6 people on your team, you will choose one of them to be inactive. This means they are not part of the line up or rotations. Once every three weeks, you can choose to bring them in off the bench to replace one of your active people. They will take over all necessary rotations and the replaced player will become inactive. This should give teams a lot more options for building a team they really want, and let us see some people in the league we have never seen before.

IMPORTANT!!!!
All teams have one month from now to determine their 5 man roster (not including the free agent) Usually, we give you up until the first match of the season, but now we need to know who is available for free agents and in order to do that, you need to have your 5 man team locked down. So get to testing!!! If you have not chosen your five man team by the dead line of October 31, you will be keeping the same roster from season 6.

The Draft

So, I hear you saying, how will we choose our free agent? Well, we intend for you all to bid on them. Not just on them, but you will be bidding on your music, your map, and your free agent. That's right, all music and maps are being reset and will be bid on. Each team starts our with 30 Zeni plus one zeni for every loss you have in season 6. This means teams that did worse will have a little more bidding power to help balance them out. The teams Zeni amount is as follows:

Super Saiyans 34
Androids 35
Earth's Defenders 35
Cold 36
Blades 36
Buus 36
Rugrats 37
Gohans 37
Valkyries 37
Majins 37
Dragonball Warriors 38
Saiyans 39
Namek 39
Muscle 39
Ginyu 42
Derp 43

From October 18th to October 24th, you will all bid on your teams music.
From October 25th to October 31st you will all bid on your maps.
Then each week in November, we will release 5 new free agents for bidding.

You will know all possible free agents in advance, but you will not know who will be in each group. It will be up to you and your fellow team mates to manage your Zeni to get who you want. I will be running each free agent through a test to determine an overall ranking of their quality without builds. From Rank A-E. Each week, we will release one of each rank. You will not know who is what rank until they are up for bidding so be careful! If you have not won a bid on a free agent by the end of November, you will be randomly assigned one from those that are left (and I do mean randomly).

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So, I know this is a lot to process!!! However, i think it is going to be an amazing season 7! Hell, forget about season 7, you have more than enough work to do even before then! Get with your teams and start planning now! You will need every second!

Feel free to ask any questions here and we will do our best to answer them!
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Daxter
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Ouch, a lot of negativity is being thrown to various aspects of the changes. Personally, I like all of the changes so far for one reason or another and I look forward to seeing them come together for a completely unpredictable season. So thanks for taking the time to test and think about all of these changes everyone! Just thought I should throw this out here since I have been getting an overall negative feeling coming from this thread.
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Enemy Controller
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Well people will have negative feelings if they feel like it effects the team and how they will perform. I'm enjoying this because its like relearning the whole game again to figure out AI's for your characters.
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Daxter
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Oh I know Ascension, but I agree with you. It is just fun trying to figure out how to adapt and learn from the new format of the league now.
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Vindicated57

I am very excited to see these changes implemented. Every time a change comes someone is worried about it but it seems to me that every time the change makes the game better.
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GeOm
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Blaster
Oct 4 2015, 05:51 PM
TBH I kinda dislike these changes,while the players becoming less derpy and the league being balanced more is great,what I hear about the B1s and tagging takes a bit of variety out of the game,there's no more keeping track of which players are still in,and which team has a health advantage,it's just a straight 1-2-3-4-GG.The increased B1 usage means more limitations, and I also don't feel like watching Grandpa Gohan spam Afterimage 20 times and never getting touched.Free Agents...I'm not particularly against them,but there's really no good reason to add them in,it breaks the theme,and from how we have to lock down our teams,we're picking them from players that weren't good enough to make their respective main league teams.This won't make the league any more varied,the weaker players will just be kept inactive(basically bench without limits)permanently. Also,the fact that teams that lost on a different difficulty,get more points to force other teams( that may or may not be better now) to choose from left-over Free Agents(basically the rejects of the rejects, Players in Majors>Players kicked out of Majors/Free Agents> leftover Free Agents)

Of course this is just my uneducated opinion based on what you guys said about the new difficulty,I might be completely wrong,feel free to disagree with me on this



I get why free agents can seem unnecessary and you can think that they wont be used cuz they are weaker characters in general but I see several ways they can be helpful. The most straight forward reason is that teams with weaker characters like ginyu force and derp, can swap those characters out for a potentially stronger character when they need to. The Free agent can also be used to sub out a character which is undergoing testing and is found too experimental for a specific match, or it can be used to just mess up the opposing teams predictions. As for the difficulty change I think the team balancing is worth it cuz for too long teams like derp and ginyu have had to deal with consistently being thrown in south because they cant improve characters that are extremely derpy or weak. Singular matches might not be as unpredictable but the league as a whole will definitely be and we might start seeing some real underdog type stories happen now which i think will be really entertaining.
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Blaster
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The thing is,you only get to switch every 3 weeks,so it would really only make a difference for a fifth of the matches at most,then you get stuck with a potentially weaker character for 3 weeks
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GeOm
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That doesnt mean it cant be used to a teams advantage for those 3 weeks. The rest of the teams are playing like they usually would which is what you said you preferred.
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DJNUMA
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since there is so much negativity on this forum post, I will add my three cents as well :P
Personally I like the majority of the changes, from the AI upgrade, to the restrictions on the teams based on what we have learned about the new difficulty. I however, do not enjoy the thought of a free agent draft based on my past experiences with this... This is part of the reason that I have not re-implemented the draft in the minor league, as I thought that it was too breaking of the themes for the newcomers to the league for them to really 'get it' with the teams... (I may just be slow.. but this is a major reason I never got into Naruto league...) Just my thoughts on it. I will reserve judgement till after the season starts, and I am quite excited to see how this is handled. but for all of you who are being very very negative about it.. Just because the AI derps less... it doesnt mean it wont derp, and who knows?! Maybe the Super Saiyans will actually be a fair fight now :P but all joking aside, these changes allow us a ton of new versatility in the league, and it keeps it from becoming stale which is why quite a few people stopped contributing (In my experience) Im looking forward to it guys, wary, but excited :D

also... Pikkon for Derp? ;) (I know it wont happen... but I will ALWAYS fight for that cause!)
Edited by DJNUMA, Oct 5 2015, 04:30 PM.
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Daxter
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Alright, so I have a couple more questions.

First off, how will the benching system work this season? Will the original five members need to be benched a certain number of times or will some other policy be in place? As it stands now, unless a team did not use the free agent there would be no way for everyone to sit out three weeks. But with the inactive system in place now, I figured there would be some new structure for this.

Also, how will the inactive player policy work in the preseason? Can we switch the inactive player every week or would it still only be every three weeks amounting to one time in the preseason?
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GeOm
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Daxter
Oct 7 2015, 12:59 PM
Alright, so I have a couple more questions.

First off, how will the benching system work this season? Will the original five members need to be benched a certain number of times or will some other policy be in place? As it stands now, unless a team did not use the free agent there would be no way for everyone to sit out three weeks. But with the inactive system in place now, I figured there would be some new structure for this.

Also, how will the inactive player policy work in the preseason? Can we switch the inactive player every week or would it still only be every three weeks amounting to one time in the preseason?


From what i remember reading i believe the benching system still works the same where all 5 characters need 3 benches each with the rule of no benching two times in a row. The free agent i believe takes over the benches of whatever person he swaps with. So if 18 had 2 benches already and the next week you swap her out for your free agent to go in she still has two benches only since the free agent takes her place in a sense. I believe this is right but someone should correct me if im wrong.
As for the preseason, im just assuming here, but id think that you would be able to use your free agent as much as you want in the matches since there had been no rules about benching before in the preseason.
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