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| Incest...ok or morally reprehensible?; Talk about whether you think it's ok to have in society or if it is so vile it deserves ALL OF YOUR HATE. | |
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| Warden of Wisdom | Jun 24 2013, 11:39 PM Post #11 |
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Well, the difference is that siblings don't have responsibility or authority over one another. Realistically, they're just two people with the same parents that have lived together for many years. Tell me, if two people were raised in an orphanage, and when they both came of age, they wanted to marry, would it be any different? They were raised together, by the same people. They've known each other and been friends for a long time. Once wrong about them loving each other? |
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| Warden of Wisdom | Jun 24 2013, 11:46 PM Post #12 |
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And maybe it's just me, but I don't think family means anything other than close friendship. I'm Cuban and Nicaraguan, and like most Latino cultures, family is extremely important. I've met cousins from Cuba that I've never even heard their names before, and we hug and kiss and talk and trust each other like we've known each other for 100 years, or at least I'm expected to. That's just how the culture works. But it doesn't make sense to me. Just because we share genetics, why does that mean we should instantly love each other? I don't think family matters outside of a social or legal sense. For example, my father is biologically and legally my father, but we're far from friends. So, why should I 'love' him just because he's my father? Why should genetic similarity matter at all? I think friendship is more important. For example, I consider my mother and my sisters my friends before family, because I think the experiences and times we've shared matter more than the blood we share. I don't get why family is such a big deal :\ |
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| Warden of Wisdom | Jun 24 2013, 11:53 PM Post #13 |
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This is relevant, and I agree with most of it. Beware: Profanity and random ME3 footage. If you like the video, try checking out Bhaalspawn's channel. He has tons of great RVIs. |
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| Gir | Jun 25 2013, 12:51 AM Post #14 |
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I see no real logical problem with a brother and sister, sister and sister, or brother and brother having a romantic relationship. But I'm a complete sap who believes in "twu wuv" and such nonsense. Big age gaps still creep me out though, related or not. |
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| Warden of Wisdom | Jun 25 2013, 01:01 AM Post #15 |
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I agree, something doesn't feel right about a 20 year old and a 55 year old, although if it's genuine, then great. The only conditions I have for a romantic relationship is if all involved parties are fully aware, consensual, and able to love. I don't believe that children can truly consent or love, and that's primarily why I'm against Pedophilia. Although I hate how the American justice system treats it like a crime and not a disorder. |
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| Gir | Jun 25 2013, 01:18 AM Post #16 |
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Discussing the American justice system would require a topic all on it's own. |
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| ViperKang | Jun 25 2013, 01:30 AM Post #17 |
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Indeed. Let's keep this to one rather touchy subject. |
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| Huzzahfortimelines | Jun 25 2013, 03:05 AM Post #18 |
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I think it's also a difference in the way you view things. Whenever I discuss something that talks about wether something that other people do, is morally OK, I try to keep my own emotional stance on it on second place, and think if it has any disbenefits. Again, when you put in the limit of not being able to have children, there are no biological disbenefits, and if both parties agree, well, then I can't see any problems with it. I guess I should also explain why I shaped this opinion. Well, traditionally, like the global sack of salts we are, I formed it by a TV-show. Can't remember what show, all I know was that it was a crime-show. Basically, this girl got raped, and found shelter in her brothers arms (sounds really stupid, I know, it wasn't terribly well acted either). The sister pushed a bit, and eventually, the brother also gave into the attraction. At the end, the police found out, and started saying things like: "You disgusting Monster," or, "You piece of shit". Not only did I think that was way too harsh, what really bothered me was the overall plot. The fact that the girl got raped was mentioned once, for 2 seconds. The fact that there was incest, took over the entire second half. This was pretty much where I drew my opinion from. Why would a subject like rape be tossed away, never to be mentioned again, while the subject of incest was given such aggressive treatment? Also Vindicated, I doubt people would touch this subject with a ten-foot-pole for the next 10 years or so. Don't count on it.
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| Gir | Jun 25 2013, 03:11 AM Post #19 |
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Yeah, that show sounds like it pretty much sums up some of Humanity's darker habits. Demonizing and victimizing with little to no regard for the situation is all too common. |
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| Warden of Wisdom | Jun 25 2013, 03:36 AM Post #20 |
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Tons of writers just use rape as a quick add drama button, or a lame excuse for this thing to happen in the story. Very few examples of rape in fictitious media are respectful and reasonable. |
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