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| Chick-Fil-A; Might be of most interest to the Americans, but I figured we should do another politically thread. | |
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| Fjord Mustang | Aug 1 2012, 09:03 PM Post #11 |
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I don't eat there, either- just not my type of food. I do think if people really, really, really like the food and service there, they should continue to buy it and support the local people in their area who were not directly responsible for the owner's decision and viewpoints. It seems sad to me that a business known for good quality and service and a good business acumen would get the company so publically involved in controversial issues rather than the owner making his own private donations with his own money. The restaurant should be in the business of making good food, not public policy. Overall, tend to go along with much of what Backroads and Nightfury have been saying. I don't think I could put it any better. I do feel for the employees and franchise owners who might suffer directly from people not supporting their business. And, that article about the New Hampshire Chik-Fil-A supporting Pride events was great, Gumdrop Ch4rms! Edited by Fjord Mustang, Aug 1 2012, 09:08 PM.
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"And now each night, I count the stars. And each night I get the same number. And when the stars won't come to be counted, I count the holes they leave." — Amiri Baraka (Leroi Jones) ** Signature art designed by Gumdrop Ch4rms *** | |
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| AvannaK | Aug 1 2012, 10:41 PM Post #12 |
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I boycott Chick-Fil-A because I'm a nutritionist. No other reason. |
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| Backroads | Aug 2 2012, 11:10 AM Post #13 |
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Probably the best reason! I must confess, I did eat there yesterday. I love the food, my starving student brother and sister-in-law both work there, I'm bugged when a company isn't allowed to have an opinion, and the one in my hometown was a huge supporter of my little brothers' theatre program. |
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| Polychrome | Aug 2 2012, 09:53 PM Post #14 |
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Same here. I try to avoid fast food in general because the last thing I (or my husband) need is a 1k empty calorie meal. But I did go yesterday. The turnout for "Chick-fil-a day" was utterly enormous. And from what I'm hearing on the radio and the internet, people from all walks of life attended. In a way it makes me feel good that at least the *PEOPLE* in the US, if not the government, can separate personal opinion from how one runs a business. It also makes me feel like we're finally getting back into an upswing as a country, and people are starting to realize they can and should disagree with each other without it being considered a federal offense. Or maybe I'm just horribly optimistic. My views on marriage? It's a religious construct, no matter the culture, and we have separation of church and state for a reason: to avoid crap like this. The biggest mistake the US ever did was allow government to get involved in the first place. Get them out and the problem is instantly solved. If people really want to make "contracts" or whatever they feel their relationships are worth, nothing's stopping them, and I'm sure some beaurocracy or other can be set up if people really feel the need to officialize who they consider family or not. |
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| Night Fury | Aug 3 2012, 12:37 AM Post #15 |
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Governments have always been involved in marriage though, and in most cultures marriage was done mainly for practical and financial reasons. Religion has almost always taken a back seat to things such as building alliances between families, pooling resources, and ensuring there were heirs to fill positions of power. In other words, if marriage is beneficial in some way, people tend to desire it regardless of their religious beliefs, or lack thereof (where's the hubbub about athiests getting married?). Anyway, same-sex marriage has been legal here since 2003 and the sky didn't fall; in fact it looks the same as far as I can tell. Religious people still have religious marriages, and the rest of us have whatever type of marriage suits us. It's shocking how well that works out, maybe the US should try it. |
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| Fjord Mustang | Aug 3 2012, 09:14 AM Post #16 |
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We've tried it in Massachusetts and the sky is still here. My boss is from Canada, so he was letting us know about the system, as he and his partner were married in Canada and now both live and work in the Boston area. Currently he is happily informing us about Canada's performance in the Olympics versus all the countries where we come from.
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| Night Fury | Aug 3 2012, 10:30 AM Post #17 |
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That's good to hear, I'd actually forgotten it was legal there. I know that some states are more progressive than others, just like Canadian provinces. I confess that I haven't been following the Olympics very closely, but I know we're still waiting for a gold medal. I really think we're more of a winter sports country though (actually, we had the most golds in 2010). But I think we'll do okay this year. |
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| CrazyTrace | Aug 3 2012, 11:57 AM Post #18 |
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The history of marriage is actually been a mixed bag. In bigger cities throughout history, yeah, marriage was more of an insitutition. In your smaller areas, it was pretty much a declaration of partnership before God and Community or whatever. Frankly, I think the latter is the way to go. All the laws surrounding marriage are ridiculous. Now, I am pretty religious, but I don't really have the fear some religious people do about gay marriage being forced upon churches unwilling to do it. From what I can figure, the groups that do want to make it a requirement for all churches to perform gay marriages whether they like it or not is so tiny a fraction it's just not worth worrying about. I didn't eat their Wednesday, but I do enjoy the food whenever we bother to eat out. I think the whole thing is very silly. I don't blame people for getting upset, but I also figure the CFA folks can say whatever they want as long as it doesn't impact the business model itself. I like Backroads' "thought police" line. If we start making laws about what companies can and can't believe, we're heading for a lot more problems. |
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| AvannaK | Aug 8 2012, 08:33 AM Post #19 |
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I, personally, feel marriage is entirely cultural. It's not limited to any one religion, it's used in human culture for legal purposes. Property, assets, heirs, and containing STDS. I think marriage should be allowed to be held between any two people who plan to share a life together. However, to be painfully honest, I find it completely unnatural for human nature. Sorry guys, I'm just not a fan of monogamy OR polygamy. Humans are promiscuous! Go bonobos! |
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| Night Fury | Aug 8 2012, 11:48 AM Post #20 |
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I agree it is unnatural from a biological standpoint, and I feel it causes as many problems as it solves. There is a fairlytale ideal surrounding marriage, which often sets people up with unrealistic expectations. We tell ourselves that everything will magically change when we get married, and we'll be happy with that person for life, but that is rarely the case. It's true that most people desire multiple partners even if they are morally against the idea. I would say that if monogamy feels unnatural and difficult to you, then be honest with yourself, or you're just going to cause yourself and others more pain in the long term. Everyone's situation is a bit different though. I'd probably be grateful if someone chose me as their mate, so I doubt I'd feel the need to stray. I'm not promiscuous now, so I doubt I'd start simply because I got married. |
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