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Topic Started: Jan 19 2011, 02:57 AM (324 Views)
Bullmoose
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We don't do a lot of defensive battlefield tactics as a group. I know many groups that center around this and probably have thier groups running like a well oiled machine. Now what I am about to say is only my opinion, but I feel other than the teamwork skills developed, many of these activities are in vain. I feel instead of tactics set in stone, the most valuable asset will be flexibility. Say your enemy has a new tactic that entirely defeats the principles of the tactic your group has perfected over all those hours of training. Now, aside from the basics like teamwork, marksmanship and hand signals, you are back at square one. The basics mentioned are extremely important to any tactic, but to focus on a set line of tactics (again, my opinion) is fool hardy. We had a paintball FTX almost every sunday afternoon last summer. We played with a few tactics, but the most important developments we made as a group were in the 'free for all' or 'freestyle' activities where each team member did things his own way. This gave other members the opportunity to identify each players style (friend and foe alike). Obviously, members will react somewhat differently when the paintballs are made of lead, but what a good aid for teaching the team what members are capable of doing what. When that is learned, you no longer need to pick members out of a hat to fill positions. And when it comes time to adapt, it would go more seemless knowing each individuals traits.
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I'm with you on your thoughts. You can't plan an attack and then when things change jump up and yell " no fair, we weren't ready, you cheated!" Like I've read many times, one good plan is put yourself in the mind of the enemy. How would you try to take over this area and plan an attack. That might help out in a defense plan. Only other thing to drill into your teams head is KNOW YOUR WEAPON, how to clear jambs and get it working without hesitation and STAY UNDER COVER. Watching some cop shows on tv, even I can pick out what they're doing wrong but it looks cool so DON"T do what they do on tv!
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Know your weapon, AND, I believe another huge strategic advantage over a foe would be to know your Area of Operation inside and out. But there again your putting alot of eggs into that basket, if you are ever forced out of your AO. But basic woodscraft will go a long way in a similar AO. I'm probably like alot of people though when I say I'm only leaving my AO one way.... But certainly there may be extenuating circumstances.
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Another thought would be to know where your own people are so you are reasonably sure that no one is in the line of fire. It would be bad enough to have to patch people up in the best of circumstances but to have to patch them up due to friendly fire (or worse yet have to bury them) would be even worse. That is why, even though I agree with your premise I also think that drills for defensive tactics have their place. I would agree, however, that it seems that those types of drills get more "play" because they could be considered more fun. I think that far more attention should be paid to who does what in the everyday life skills of building, storage rotation, gardening and animal husbandry etc. Everyone should spend time in the garden, barn and fields. Everyone should be taught how to firewood by hand, do simple woodwork and repairs. Teamwork should be a community project with not only ideas but implimentation of those ideas. Just my thoughts.
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Knowing your area would be a defenate advantage for defense. Every hole, nole, fence,ect. and maybe another thing would be boobytraps, either noise makers to alert or other types to slow down groups and make them think twice about continuing. My son, former marine, said nothing slows down a patrol faster than hidden boobytraps that wound one member. Not kill cause they will continue, wounded uses up more people that need to care for them. Just some ideas to throw around.
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I think Raven has a good point - EVERYONE should have to do a rotation at different chores. Of course, that should be tempered with common sense - you can't very well have a 10 year old out on perimiter patrol toting a high powered rifle. But, I guess the idea is that, for everyday life, which most will be doing most of the time, it makes sense for everyone to be able to do those chores.

Grizzley is correct - soldiers in our good ol' US Army are taught to shoot to maim - it takes at a minimum two other people out of the fight and seperates the group.
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Exactly what I mean Mommacat, everyone should have a chore. Kids can weed a garden, plant, and do age appropriate chores. Even small children can pick up things. For every chore that you can give a kid, an adult has extra time to spend on other chores.
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Yup and, IMO, that's exactly what's wrong with our society today. We don't have chores for kids to do anymore - taking out the trash every couple days and emptying the dishwasher are about all I can come up with to keep the grandbrat occupied. So, we're raising kids that not only don't know HOW to work, they really don't think they should have to. However, that could change drastically in short order and I, for one, think it wouldn't be all bad. We might suffer as an industrial and financial world leader, but as a society we'd be better off if we got back to the basics and actually were doing things for ourselves as individuals that we could take pride in.
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The white house idiots seem to think our kids are too fat cause they're not eating the right food but they don't think about all those electronic gadjets that gives them no reason to get off their ass and actually do something. Hell, when I was young you had to get up and walk to change a channel on tv. Oh great, now I'm going to talk about the "good ol days" enough said.
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Animal husbandry..... Not exactly sure what that is, but I may have some experience in that from high school.... How come everytime I try to talk about something fun like shooting guns, everyone has to wreck it by talking about gardening and marrying farm animals? We should start a couple new topics. "Fun stuff" to address the shooting part and "Boring Stuff" to accomodate the vitals. Kidding of course.
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