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| Raven | Nov 26 2011, 09:46 AM Post #11 |
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Mommacat, I skinned the bird and then rubbed olive oil and herbs on it. I baked it in a cooking bag. The natural birds will dry out easier because they haven't been injected with up to 40% brine. You have to be very careful not to over cook turkey. If you want to have a good amount of leftovers you have to more than double the amounts recommended. I was able to share with my Mom and Dad and then have more than enough for us. Good stuff! |
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| Mommacat | Nov 27 2011, 01:26 AM Post #12 |
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I had to smile when I read your comment about not overcooking the bird. I never liked turkey until I started cooking it myself. My mother would put the thing in the oven early in the morning and cook it until mid-afternoon. It was so horribly dry you almost couldn't eat it! Good thing she also made gallons of gravy to soak it in! I always use a meat thermometer and I get juicy, tender turkey. I buy organic, locally raised turkey that has not been "enhanced" with anything - its considerably more expensive, but since its a once a year deal, I do it. Lucky you with the left overs - can I come to your house!!? I'll bring my turkey casserole recipe!! LOL |
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| HandFarming | Nov 27 2011, 04:00 AM Post #13 |
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Not much left overs here either. I cook the bird upside down and the breast meat is fall off the bone tender and moist. Thanks for the clarification on the origins of our thanksgiving tradition. Will have to read more about it. |
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| Raven | Nov 27 2011, 06:19 PM Post #14 |
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HF, what I learned, I didn't learn from school (no kidding huh :-) I just have always wondered and started reading more and more of the "off beat" books on the subject. I had a research paper once on the subject of the accuracy of traditional views of most of the American holidays, that is one of them. I got a D, not because of the research or the content, but because I argued with the teacher of the finished results. Never "wore" a D more proudly! That being said, it is not a sure thing that the source of my research is accurate either. There is no way to know EXACTLY what happened or why, we weren't there and the people who wrote the stuff have agendas...EVERYONE has some type of agenda. |
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| Mommacat | Nov 28 2011, 03:07 AM Post #15 |
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I suspect that the first meal of thanksgiving was probably nothing like the modern "traditional" extravaganza. I think maybe there were wild game birds, possibly wild or semi-cultivated squash, wild nuts and berries probably were on the menu. I suspect that its entirely possible the only thing that might be the same would be the cranberries! I think our family may be a little closer than most to the true traditional meal - we usually also have venison roast at Thanksgiving. But, its the tradition of being thankful that remains the same and so I guess what groceries that involves is a highly individual choice. Think about it - oysters in stuffing??? YUK!!! LOL |
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| Raven | Nov 28 2011, 09:28 AM Post #16 |
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One of the bravest people that ever lived was the one that looked at a raw oyster and said..."gee, wonder if that is edible?" and then ate it...nasty (except smoked oysters, I love them-go figure) |
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| Mommacat | Nov 28 2011, 11:16 AM Post #17 |
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LMAO - agreed there! Love 'em smoked, but on the half shell, think somebody should turn 'em loose and let 'em swim away! Actually, there are a lot of foods that I wonder about - I finally decided that most of the strange stuff that is considered edible was most likely discovered by a starving person - bleu cheese proving my point!! |
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| HandFarming | Nov 28 2011, 11:07 PM Post #18 |
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The origin, as I learned it, of Thanksgiving was when the native Americans brought food to the starving Jamestown first settlers, but it happened later in the year. The No Agenda podcast (yes they have an agenda) dissects info and sort of truths it out. But they are not always correct either. Guess we will never know. |
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| Mommacat | Nov 29 2011, 12:11 PM Post #19 |
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"The No Agenda podcast (yes they have an agenda) ROFLMAO Funny lady, HF!!! I read that line and laughed out loud. But, so much for impatial news - I don't believe such a thing exists any longer, if it ever truly did. |
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| HandFarming | Nov 29 2011, 01:28 PM Post #20 |
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If you haven't heard it, it's sorta like the John Stewart show as they dissect the news, events and make comments. They hate Hilary and watch c-span so they have an interesting take on government. What can I say, it's for blatant brain warp-age in a day when brain warping is everywhere in mass media.... |
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