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'Ere The Law Rises
Topic Started: Oct 13 2011, 02:14 PM (494 Views)
6thDimensional
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I think that, given people's disposition towards activity on this forum, now would be a good time to start wrapping it up, as it's not likely to get anywhere further. I'm taking the opinions of people who gave them as much as possible here. At this point, things are not going to change unless someone has a reasonable objection - i.e. knows logically why it won't work, or can present a more efficient solution.




Forum Setup

... The only thing that's changed from the original setup is the birthday forum. *facepalm*
So here's a setup I think will work based on given discussions

News

  • Staff Announcements - for issues regarding the site
  • General Announcements - for big community news items (i.e. big game release, important world events, celebration for holidays or something, etc.)

Staff-Only

  • Staff Forum - hidden, for use in discussion site issues among other staff members
  • Trash Can - archived topics that should not be on display

Entertainment

  • Art - includes literature and images, post your own or share your favorites!
  • Video - for movies, youtube, and the like. Subforum for movie night.
  • Video Games - our favorite forum, subforums for the popular stuff.
  • Role-Play - says on the tin, strictly for role-playing in-character.

General Discussion

  • General - general stuff, includes poll of the week and intro/farewells.
  • Spam Spam Spam - for spam and the ever-popular forum games.
  • Mature Audiences - for the 18+ crowd
  • Veteran forum - for the old site vets who were here for the founding of this new land.
  • Resolution Forum - suggestion and problem resolution forum
  • Archive - old topics locked from posting, but still available for viewing.


Da Rules

Accounts

  • All users found to be under the age of 13 will be banned until further notice. This is part Zetaboard rule, and part ours. This really isn't a place for young'ns, we swear a lot and talk about mature things. Users are not compelled to give their age, and are actually encouraged to ignore the matter of age in social matters. However, admission to being underage for the site is grounds for removal.
  • Only one person may use a forum account, and only one account per person. Account sharing/duplicating is a bannable offense, so please keep your password secure and your sock-puppets on youtube.
  • Do not create a new account if you want another name. If you wish to change your name, then you should be able to do so yourself - if not, simply contact an admin and request a change. We'll be glad to oblige.


General

  • Type like you know the English language. You're not gonna get gramma nazi'd (at least not by mods) but typ lk dis n u wil b b&. Annoying typing quirks are okay for a joke, but if you seriously leet-speak or text-type or some other crap all day erryday, you should probably spend less time on the internet and more time in school.
  • Keep mature content and excessive swearing to the Mature Audience forum (or the chatbox if you'er feeling lucky).
  • If you troll, expect to be trolled right back. If things get out of hand, a mod can decide to step in and put any and all offending parties in the dunce corner.
  • If you flame, expect to get a boot to the head from the nearest moderating authority.
  • This is not a place for religious or political debates. Keep that stuff OFF the chatbox, and if you really need to shout your beliefs to the heavens, keep it to a well-defined forum topic, and keep it civil or the staff WILL step in and shut it down. If you don't like the way someone thinks, well that's YOUR problem, now isn't it? State your opinions in a clear and civil manner, or better yet, just ignore them and do things YOU enjoy. We all have better things to do than try to convince each other of how stupid we are.
  • Spoilers have their own tag for a reason. Please use them. They are available on both the forum and the chatbox, ask someone if you don't know what they are. This may not be as strictly enforced for old games - i.e. over a few months, but with new games it has been an issue in the past. Especially if you know other people have interest in playing it.
  • The Mature Audience Forum is 18+ only, and the password is only given upon request by a mod. This is mostly where our older members can share naughty jokes - No pronz allowed.
  • No disgusting topics - scat, shock pics, and real-life gore are officially off-limits.
  • Off-topic is discouraged. Please keep things to their respective forums. Topics will be moved with or without notice, spam will get you a warning.
  • Do you want to post useless crap that doesn't belong anywhere else on the site? The spam forum is the place for you. Keep in mind it does not count towards total post count. Also keep in mind that abuse of the spam forum will result in loss of spamming privilege.
  • Try not to bump old topics - i.e. over a week or two old or off the front page
  • Do you know someone's personal info? great. Keep it to yourself. Sharing personal info without permission will get you banned until further notice.
  • This is a North American-majority chatroom/forum. We have members from all over the world, but the primary language here is English. Please don't carry on conversations in other languages. [note: xat has a nifty translate feature!]
  • Everyone is to be treated as equals. Members are expected to show each-other respect as much as they want to receive respect. And while staff have access to the forum functions, they are no better than members and act only as organizers and mediators. We're here to make the community manageable, not miserable.
  • [Indisputible]For the love of gog, use some common sense when you post. Users with a severe deficiency in common sense are likely to be booted from the forum or chat.
  • [Indisputible] Vankei is not a meme.


Content/Media Posting

  • Flash Signatures content must either be silent or have a play option. Auto-loading flashes with sound will be removed. Repeat infringements will get you a warning. This includes signatures and posts.
  • Signatures should not exceed the 500 pixel height range, and should be reasonable in filesize. 1MB is a softcap, and if you have multiple gifs that noticably slow down a page, you will be warned to remove them within 24 hours or be banned from posting until you do. We have people of all hardware capacities and internet speeds, so if staff gets a number of reasonable complaints about sigs, we will act on them.
  • Linked Posted Content must not exceed certain size TBD
  • Upload overuse will result in loss of upload privilege until further notice.
  • Links posted to advertise a site or product are not allowed. If you want to advertise a not-for-profit website in your signature you can do so, but it must only be a non-enhanced (enhanced meaning bold, italic, large sized or coloured) text link. Advertising to sell a product or service is completely disallowed. (Note, this does not apply to an on-topic referral - say someone is looking for a place to play a game, and you refer them to one that happens to cost money, that's fine. But advertising random things is not.)
  • No linking to illegal downloads for copyrighted content, under any circumstances. Linking to youtube videos for movies and music is permissible, as well as demos and sampler tracks.


Shoutbox

  • No Spam. Ever.
  • Chatting is typically kept to the chatbox, the shoutbox is primarily used for making open memos to other members and the rest of the site.


Chatbox

  • Spam at your own risk. Some mods take high offense to this, while some will tolerate a degree of nonsense. Flooding, however, is a no-no, and if not done in the right circumstance will get you banned.
  • Keep discussions to their related Boxes. That means Main, Movie night, and RP are seperate.
  • Most of the forum content and posting rules apply here.
  • Limit of 4 icons to a name
  • Impersonation will get you banned until further notice. If you like changing your name a lot, register on xat so we can tell who you are, otherwise you will be guilty of the former.
  • for minor infractions, 1st time will get you a warning, then a kick if it continues. 2nd will be a straight kick, no warning. 3rd, temporary ban. If you make an ass of yourself enough, you may get perma-banned.


ZetaBoards General Terms of Use
This stuff is banned on all ZetaBoards forums. We would like to not have our forum deleted, so posting this stuff is insta-ban.


  • Content that infringes upon any rights (including, but not limited to, copyrights and trademarks)
  • Abusive, threatening, defamatory, racist, or obscene Content
  • Viruses or any other harmful computer software
  • False information or libel
  • Spam, chain letters, or pyramid schemes
  • Gambling or Illicit drugs
  • Terrorism
  • Hacking or cheating for internet/online games
  • Warez, Roms, CD-Keys, Cracks, Passwords, or Serial Numbers
  • Pornography, nudity, or sexual material of any kind
  • Excessive profanity
  • Content that is invasive of privacy or impersonation of any person/entity
  • Hacking materials or information.


Things you should do!

Welcome to the community! If you're new and unsure of what to do or how to join the conversation, hopefully this will help you out.

  • It's fine to lurk! Join in on the chatbox and hang around. We're all kinda weird and probably quite insane, but there's a lot of cool people here and maybe some of the less anti-social members will say hi.
  • Most of us are gamers to some degree and we all have memes memorized like bible verses. Be prepared to be periodically flooded with images from the cheezburger network and youtube links.


These are not rules. However, you can still get in trouble for them, especially if you manage to make someone mad.

  • Don't godmod in RPs. DO. NOT. GODMOD.
  • Don't copy someone's mannerisms, no matter how cool or funny you think they are. Immitation is the most sarcastic form of derision there is. Not to mention it's just really annoying in general and why would you want to copy some other retard anyways?
  • Don't cuss at people you don't really know, particularly if it's not easy to tell you're joking. We have loose rules about language here, but we do have a thing against flamers.
  • Don't confrontationally criticize someone's sexuality/gender identity. We won't shove our preferences down your throat, but if you start spouting sexist/homophobic crap, prepare to taste the motherfucking rainbow.
  • Don't spam links if people aren't interested in the same stuff.
  • Don't derail topics - especially if it's to talk about you and your problems. Chances are, if you're not really friends with anyone yet, we don't care.
  • Gogdamnit, we ARE NOT GOOGLE. Unless you have a specific question you know can be answered by a specific person, do not throw questions out in main chat like we're some sort of personal search engine.
  • We are also not Ask Amy, and are not here to solve your relationship dramas.
  • ... Whatever you do, don't make Van angry.




Site Staff Voting

Voting Process:
1) Self-Nomination - include whether you want to be either admin, mod, or are ok with either
2) Vote for open Admin positions via poll setup
3) Vote for open Mod positions among remaining candidates via poll setup
given that not all elections are the same, minor variations may occur on a case-by-case basis

Problem Resolution/Legal Motions

Personal Problems
If you have a problem with another member, your first course of action should be resolve the issue one-on-on with the other member in private. This can be in PC on xat or in PM on zetaboards. If this does not solve things or you feel that you need a mediator to come to an agreement, feel free to approch staff in private on the issue. The mediator in question will hear out both sides of the issue and, if the rules are involved, will exact an appropriate response.

Public Problems
In most cases, members should try working their problems out like civil people before potentially raising drama in the forums. If it's found out that a user posted a persona issue with another member WITHOUT first attempting to consult that member, it may weigh heavily against your case and may, in fact, result in your own expulsion from the forum as a drama-llama.

Users can post their problems directly in the public Resolution Forum if they involve:

  • more than 1 person
  • a site staff issue (staff behavior, staff activity)
  • a site functionality issue (forum setup, forum style/images, posting issues, etc.)
  • a forum rule issue (adding, amending, or subtracting a rule)
  • a forum activity issue (recruiting, group projects, specific activity forums such as poll-of-the-week)
  • permission from staff to post a one-on-one issue with another user


It is recommended that users refrain from adding their two cents on the issue until all parties involved have had their say.

Users are not allowed to start polls in the Resolution Forum. That is, they physically cannot. I wish that was the case but apparently you can't filter polls by user group. Though, I think this will work in favor of those people who would start legitimate polls regarding non-drama. Suffice to say inappropriate polls will be deleted and the user given a warning. Posting polls of this nature in other areas of the site is a big no-no and can result in anything from topic deletion to temporary banning, depending on the severity of the issue. This is simply to prevent drama bullshit we've had in the past, apologies to those who would have used this system for the benefit of others.

If you wish to post a poll directly in the forum regarding a non-personal issue, we still recommend trying a topic first to gather all possible opinions for best results, but there will be no punitive measures except maybe topic/poll restarting if an issue arises. If you are unsure about the course you should take with a topic then please contact a moderator and discuss your request with them.

Polls regarding personal quarrels will be started by staff on appropriate issues after discussion has been held. It is recommended to follow or read these discussions before casting a vote.

Guidelines
In all cases, all members are created equal. Staff will refrain from stepping in except to voice their own opinion until such a time that it becomes clear that an infraction of the rules has occurred.

In all cases of subjective problems, staff reserves the right to use their own judgment for resolving an issue, with the opinions of the community in mind.

In all cases of increasing inflammatory language and general asshattery, staff reserves the right to drop the issue and/or prosecute any and all offending parties, until such time as they calm their shit down.

In all cases of blatant rule violation, justice will be applied directly to the forehead.

tl;dr: members, put your big kid pants on and work out your problems like adults. Staff are not your personal bodyguards, nor are they certified couples' therapists. They are simply there to make sure rules are enforced and things don't get out of hand.
Edited by 6thDimensional, Nov 26 2011, 02:59 PM.
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Everything looks good to me. Not much to say here.

I'd do the problem/resolution thing but I have no idea what was actually decided on. Plus I'm not at home right now, at the library for about a half hour. :|
Edited by Flamewire, Oct 14 2011, 01:46 PM.
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6thDimensional
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posting to bump because zeta is derp
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†Linkbean
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I'm pretty sure this is about it. We can always update and edit as we go. I think we shoul update staff, finalize rules and gain attention/new members. Finally time to roll this get the ball on. WHO'S WITH ME???
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6thDimensional
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Just realized some things about some of the rules, that I think merit discussion.


  • On account sharing, sometimes people need someone else to check or use their account for something. I can recall a few instances where people asked me to log into their account to change things and whatnot. Not sure how that would apply here since we have "admin assistants" for things like site graphics but it's an issue to consider. I think temporary use should be allowed if the person says they're using it and they have permission.
  • Typing like you know the english language. Uh. I think I fail on that account on the chatbox, all the time. So do a lot of other people. Apparently it's fun to type like a retard? Maybe that should be a forum rule only. Thoughts.
  • Swearing. Uh. Yeah. What do?


Anyone else have any issues with the rules?

Keep in mind we also have to account for whatever influx of members we get, not just our own personal preferences as a group.
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KingAtRandom
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Account Sharing like that is fine, and not really Account Sharing in my opinion. It would rarely happen, and nothing more beyond that. Its usually for emergencies.

We herp the derp all the time on there. Just once it gets to a point beyond acceptable, we'll have to stop it.

Swearing... its a difficult line to cross. Its probably more of a case-by-case basis more than anything....
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The swearing rule should be something along the lines of so long as you arent excessively saying swears then it should be fine

also the 'proper english' rule, yeah i thought that was just 'try to speak in a language we understand' more then anythng.
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yeah but how do we define excessively? Like, the level I'v been uh, using in all my staff posts? *cough*
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how about 15 swears a minute (with 5 minute intervals) in chatbox and one post can have only 15 and your next post can have none, or something like that, have the intervals start whenever you hit 15... I dunno it's not like it has to be specific but something like a general consensus to go off of.
Edited by Wolfy_Duh, Nov 27 2011, 08:07 PM.
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As long as we can understand you enough without you completely being idiotic sounding it shouldn't be too bad. But if we think its too far, a kick may be needed on the chatbox, or get yelled at on the forums.

Its kind of hard to describe "excessive." I'm pretty sure we can go by own judgement on what is considered to be over the top language.

Wolfy I just read yours. I think that just over-complicates things. We need something simpler that we can keep track of easier.
Edited by Linkbean, Nov 27 2011, 08:43 PM.
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pretty much what link said, if someone thinks someone else is cursing way too much, then they should stop with so much swears. there should never be a limit on how many of whatever you can say a minute as frankly that would be a terrible idea. and besides, we all know each-other, and really i doubt any of us is going to use fuck in every fucking sentence like a fucking douchebag shithead fuck.

but yeah you get my point
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Regarding account sharing: Why would that be necessary? At all? Changing one or two things should not warrant you handing out your password to someone so they can do it for you rather than have you spend a minute figuring out how to do it yourself. It just isn't necessary, and allowing it only makes it easier to start drama.

Regarding typing like a retard and swearing: They should be allowed as long as they are not excessive. As for what defines excessive... I think that varies by case too much to have any nice, clean "You can swear x times per day" or "You are allowed x unnecessary punctuation marks per sentence" or similar rules. For example, I think iliekmudkips's post is not excessive, but would be if it was not used as satire. Perhaps this should be decided when and where it occurs by any staff available at the time.
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Wolfy_Duh
Nov 27 2011, 08:06 PM
how about 15 swears a minute (with 5 minute intervals) in chatbox and one post can have only 15 and your next post can have none, or something like that, have the intervals start whenever you hit 15... I dunno it's not like it has to be specific but something like a general consensus to go off of.
That just sounds arbitrary to me. I don't think there's a "threshold" so to speak of when it's excessive swearing. I say we just do it on a case by case basis - everyone KNOWS when someone is being stupid. It's a "I know it when I see it" thing. I don't think anyone counts the number of swears to see if someone has "crossed the line".
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For the account thing, I just recalled a few times where I had to log into shadow's account. When he was main admin and didn't have access to his computer, he'd call me up when stuff needed fixing. It was more of an emergency thing. But yeah, I can't see that being anything but a very specific exception if the case warrants it, especially when I don't see all of our admins being away from the internet at once for extended periods of time.
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Okay guys, I understand the number thing being an issue, I did NOT mean for a specific number to define our limit, I more meant that we should have a ruled area of allowance, I don't care if someone curses all FUCKING day, it's when they are cursing carelessly that it should matter, when it starts to effect others negatively that I think a limit should be set, I more meant to put the number there so that when you see someone starting to abuse the cursing, first warn them, then you let them go for a few more, until they hit the threshold and therefore need to be punished, sorry I summarized without telling my FULL thoughts.
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Wolfy_Duh
Dec 5 2011, 03:00 PM
Okay guys, I understand the number thing being an issue, I did NOT mean for a specific number to define our limit, I more meant that we should have a ruled area of allowance, I don't care if someone curses all FUCKING day, it's when they are cursing carelessly that it should matter, when it starts to effect others negatively that I think a limit should be set, I more meant to put the number there so that when you see someone starting to abuse the cursing, first warn them, then you let them go for a few more, until they hit the threshold and therefore need to be punished, sorry I summarized without telling my FULL thoughts.
True that. I say that when it affects other people in a negative way, it's crossing the line, as you said.
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Okay, so let's see. Who has a problem with these rules? If so, why, and to what should it be changed?

"Users are not allowed to start polls in the Resolution Forum. That is, they physically cannot. I wish that was the case but apparently you can't filter polls by user group. Though, I think this will work in favor of those people who would start legitimate polls regarding non-drama. Suffice to say inappropriate polls will be deleted and the user given a warning. Posting polls of this nature in other areas of the site is a big no-no and can result in anything from topic deletion to temporary banning, depending on the severity of the issue. This is simply to prevent drama bullshit we've had in the past, apologies to those who would have used this system for the benefit of others. "

I think we should let users start polls in this area - chances are they're competent, and if they show their idiocy, someone can lock/delete/move/do something to the topic. I think it's better to have the privilege to begin with, with a chance of losing it, versus not having it at all.
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Giving the privilege to all without knowing how they'd handle it isnt good. If I made a poll deemed offensive because of the pollling privileges, then I'd only be making an ass outta myself and lowering everyones opinion of me, along with getting that right taken from me. Kinda a double kick in the dick, dont you think?

Better to be safe then sorry.
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I would personally like to state here that I APPROVE OF THE CURRENT RULES!

I am not saying the rules have to be unchangeable, but as out first set of rules, it's pretty damn good, not to cause a shitfit by comparing us to the american government, but just like laws today, we can add more when issues arise, a good example might be that before the internet, there were not laws about the internet, so when the "internet" gets invented we make rules about it, dig?
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Agreed Wolfy. This is a perfect set to start out on, and we can always add/change/delete stuff later. Let's this over and done with and get to the good stuff.
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