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| ‡6thDimensional | Oct 13 2011, 02:14 PM Post #1 |
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I think that, given people's disposition towards activity on this forum, now would be a good time to start wrapping it up, as it's not likely to get anywhere further. I'm taking the opinions of people who gave them as much as possible here. At this point, things are not going to change unless someone has a reasonable objection - i.e. knows logically why it won't work, or can present a more efficient solution. Forum Setup ... The only thing that's changed from the original setup is the birthday forum. *facepalm* So here's a setup I think will work based on given discussions News
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ZetaBoards General Terms of Use This stuff is banned on all ZetaBoards forums. We would like to not have our forum deleted, so posting this stuff is insta-ban.
Things you should do! Welcome to the community! If you're new and unsure of what to do or how to join the conversation, hopefully this will help you out.
These are not rules. However, you can still get in trouble for them, especially if you manage to make someone mad.
Site Staff Voting Voting Process: 1) Self-Nomination - include whether you want to be either admin, mod, or are ok with either 2) Vote for open Admin positions via poll setup 3) Vote for open Mod positions among remaining candidates via poll setup given that not all elections are the same, minor variations may occur on a case-by-case basis Problem Resolution/Legal Motions Personal Problems If you have a problem with another member, your first course of action should be resolve the issue one-on-on with the other member in private. This can be in PC on xat or in PM on zetaboards. If this does not solve things or you feel that you need a mediator to come to an agreement, feel free to approch staff in private on the issue. The mediator in question will hear out both sides of the issue and, if the rules are involved, will exact an appropriate response. Public Problems In most cases, members should try working their problems out like civil people before potentially raising drama in the forums. If it's found out that a user posted a persona issue with another member WITHOUT first attempting to consult that member, it may weigh heavily against your case and may, in fact, result in your own expulsion from the forum as a drama-llama. Users can post their problems directly in the public Resolution Forum if they involve:
It is recommended that users refrain from adding their two cents on the issue until all parties involved have had their say. Users are not allowed to start polls in the Resolution Forum. If you wish to post a poll directly in the forum regarding a non-personal issue, we still recommend trying a topic first to gather all possible opinions for best results, but there will be no punitive measures except maybe topic/poll restarting if an issue arises. If you are unsure about the course you should take with a topic then please contact a moderator and discuss your request with them. Polls regarding personal quarrels will be started by staff on appropriate issues after discussion has been held. It is recommended to follow or read these discussions before casting a vote. Guidelines In all cases, all members are created equal. Staff will refrain from stepping in except to voice their own opinion until such a time that it becomes clear that an infraction of the rules has occurred. In all cases of subjective problems, staff reserves the right to use their own judgment for resolving an issue, with the opinions of the community in mind. In all cases of increasing inflammatory language and general asshattery, staff reserves the right to drop the issue and/or prosecute any and all offending parties, until such time as they calm their shit down. In all cases of blatant rule violation, justice will be applied directly to the forehead. tl;dr: members, put your big kid pants on and work out your problems like adults. Staff are not your personal bodyguards, nor are they certified couples' therapists. They are simply there to make sure rules are enforced and things don't get out of hand. Edited by 6thDimensional, Nov 26 2011, 02:59 PM.
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| +Flamewire | Oct 14 2011, 01:45 PM Post #2 |
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Everything looks good to me. Not much to say here. I'd do the problem/resolution thing but I have no idea what was actually decided on. Plus I'm not at home right now, at the library for about a half hour. :| Edited by Flamewire, Oct 14 2011, 01:46 PM.
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| ‡6thDimensional | Nov 18 2011, 02:21 PM Post #3 |
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posting to bump because zeta is derp |
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| †Linkbean | Nov 18 2011, 11:52 PM Post #4 |
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I'm pretty sure this is about it. We can always update and edit as we go. I think we shoul update staff, finalize rules and gain attention/new members. Finally time to roll this get the ball on. WHO'S WITH ME??? |
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| ‡6thDimensional | Nov 26 2011, 03:22 PM Post #5 |
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Just realized some things about some of the rules, that I think merit discussion.
Anyone else have any issues with the rules? Keep in mind we also have to account for whatever influx of members we get, not just our own personal preferences as a group. |
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| ‡KingAtRandom | Nov 26 2011, 04:54 PM Post #6 |
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Account Sharing like that is fine, and not really Account Sharing in my opinion. It would rarely happen, and nothing more beyond that. Its usually for emergencies. We herp the derp all the time on there. Just once it gets to a point beyond acceptable, we'll have to stop it. Swearing... its a difficult line to cross. Its probably more of a case-by-case basis more than anything.... |
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| +iliekmudkips | Nov 27 2011, 05:27 AM Post #7 |
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The swearing rule should be something along the lines of so long as you arent excessively saying swears then it should be fine also the 'proper english' rule, yeah i thought that was just 'try to speak in a language we understand' more then anythng. |
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| ‡6thDimensional | Nov 27 2011, 04:01 PM Post #8 |
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yeah but how do we define excessively? Like, the level I'v been uh, using in all my staff posts? *cough* |
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| †Wolfy_Duh | Nov 27 2011, 08:06 PM Post #9 |
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how about 15 swears a minute (with 5 minute intervals) in chatbox and one post can have only 15 and your next post can have none, or something like that, have the intervals start whenever you hit 15... I dunno it's not like it has to be specific but something like a general consensus to go off of.
Edited by Wolfy_Duh, Nov 27 2011, 08:07 PM.
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| †Linkbean | Nov 27 2011, 08:37 PM Post #10 |
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As long as we can understand you enough without you completely being idiotic sounding it shouldn't be too bad. But if we think its too far, a kick may be needed on the chatbox, or get yelled at on the forums. Its kind of hard to describe "excessive." I'm pretty sure we can go by own judgement on what is considered to be over the top language. Wolfy I just read yours. I think that just over-complicates things. We need something simpler that we can keep track of easier. Edited by Linkbean, Nov 27 2011, 08:43 PM.
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| +iliekmudkips | Nov 27 2011, 08:52 PM Post #11 |
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pretty much what link said, if someone thinks someone else is cursing way too much, then they should stop with so much swears. there should never be a limit on how many of whatever you can say a minute as frankly that would be a terrible idea. and besides, we all know each-other, and really i doubt any of us is going to use fuck in every fucking sentence like a fucking douchebag shithead fuck. but yeah you get my point |
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| +Shandera | Nov 27 2011, 09:33 PM Post #12 |
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Regarding account sharing: Why would that be necessary? At all? Changing one or two things should not warrant you handing out your password to someone so they can do it for you rather than have you spend a minute figuring out how to do it yourself. It just isn't necessary, and allowing it only makes it easier to start drama. Regarding typing like a retard and swearing: They should be allowed as long as they are not excessive. As for what defines excessive... I think that varies by case too much to have any nice, clean "You can swear x times per day" or "You are allowed x unnecessary punctuation marks per sentence" or similar rules. For example, I think iliekmudkips's post is not excessive, but would be if it was not used as satire. Perhaps this should be decided when and where it occurs by any staff available at the time. |
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| +Flamewire | Nov 28 2011, 07:03 AM Post #13 |
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That just sounds arbitrary to me. I don't think there's a "threshold" so to speak of when it's excessive swearing. I say we just do it on a case by case basis - everyone KNOWS when someone is being stupid. It's a "I know it when I see it" thing. I don't think anyone counts the number of swears to see if someone has "crossed the line". |
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| ‡6thDimensional | Nov 28 2011, 09:01 PM Post #14 |
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For the account thing, I just recalled a few times where I had to log into shadow's account. When he was main admin and didn't have access to his computer, he'd call me up when stuff needed fixing. It was more of an emergency thing. But yeah, I can't see that being anything but a very specific exception if the case warrants it, especially when I don't see all of our admins being away from the internet at once for extended periods of time. |
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| †Wolfy_Duh | Dec 5 2011, 03:00 PM Post #15 |
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Okay guys, I understand the number thing being an issue, I did NOT mean for a specific number to define our limit, I more meant that we should have a ruled area of allowance, I don't care if someone curses all FUCKING day, it's when they are cursing carelessly that it should matter, when it starts to effect others negatively that I think a limit should be set, I more meant to put the number there so that when you see someone starting to abuse the cursing, first warn them, then you let them go for a few more, until they hit the threshold and therefore need to be punished, sorry I summarized without telling my FULL thoughts. |
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| +Flamewire | Dec 6 2011, 07:09 PM Post #16 |
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True that. I say that when it affects other people in a negative way, it's crossing the line, as you said. |
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| +Flamewire | Dec 14 2011, 09:46 PM Post #17 |
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Okay, so let's see. Who has a problem with these rules? If so, why, and to what should it be changed? "Users are not allowed to start polls in the Resolution Forum. That is, they physically cannot. I wish that was the case but apparently you can't filter polls by user group. Though, I think this will work in favor of those people who would start legitimate polls regarding non-drama. Suffice to say inappropriate polls will be deleted and the user given a warning. Posting polls of this nature in other areas of the site is a big no-no and can result in anything from topic deletion to temporary banning, depending on the severity of the issue. This is simply to prevent drama bullshit we've had in the past, apologies to those who would have used this system for the benefit of others. " I think we should let users start polls in this area - chances are they're competent, and if they show their idiocy, someone can lock/delete/move/do something to the topic. I think it's better to have the privilege to begin with, with a chance of losing it, versus not having it at all. |
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| +iliekmudkips | Dec 14 2011, 10:46 PM Post #18 |
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Giving the privilege to all without knowing how they'd handle it isnt good. If I made a poll deemed offensive because of the pollling privileges, then I'd only be making an ass outta myself and lowering everyones opinion of me, along with getting that right taken from me. Kinda a double kick in the dick, dont you think? Better to be safe then sorry. |
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| †Wolfy_Duh | Dec 15 2011, 09:20 AM Post #19 |
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I would personally like to state here that I APPROVE OF THE CURRENT RULES! I am not saying the rules have to be unchangeable, but as out first set of rules, it's pretty damn good, not to cause a shitfit by comparing us to the american government, but just like laws today, we can add more when issues arise, a good example might be that before the internet, there were not laws about the internet, so when the "internet" gets invented we make rules about it, dig? |
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| †Linkbean | Dec 15 2011, 11:00 AM Post #20 |
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Agreed Wolfy. This is a perfect set to start out on, and we can always add/change/delete stuff later. Let's this over and done with and get to the good stuff. |
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