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| wickywoowoo | 17th October 2010 - 02:32 AM Post #106 |
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The show is designed as an "entrance" to conspiracy theory. It has 40 minutes to portray a theory that often spans decades of research and hundreds of books. You can imagine that will seem a bit haphazard. It's decent to watch but it isn't a substitute for a good book or a longer, more in depth documentary. The JFK one will be interesting though, he implied he is gonna play the confession tape of a CIA agent who worked at the time of the assassination and admitted he was in on the plot. Alex Jones has played it before on his radio show but it got no coverage at all in mainstream media. June Sarpong is useless and the other guys are characters. The guy who in the first 4 episodes is the main conspiracy believer for Jesse suddenly pulls a heel turn in one and dismisses the theory (I think it is Big Brother) without reason while the original heel is the guy who believes Governments keep an unnecessary tab on people. It's on the same channel as that "Repo Men" thing which is actors too, so it is to be expected. |
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| SuperScottySteiner | 17th October 2010 - 02:15 PM Post #107 |
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I've wentb back to it and I'm not sold at all. I don't think the show has any value as an introduction to conspiracy theories. It's pretty much baseless and seems to have some outright deception in. For instance, the part at the HAARP gates where they get 'interference' - well it's pretty unconvincing, and from my time at Uni there visual interference seemed quite similar to post-edited effects on footage. There's also this examination of it which demonstrates that it was faked - http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread524228/pg1 There's no real evidence discussed. There seems to be a large effort made to make random people "experts". One moment focused on an interview with a woman who ran a coffee shop in the nearby town and focused on her opinion that it was definately a "weapon". The next scene was Jesse talking to a fat, bearded old guy wearing a 50 Cent t-shirt who was saying he'd talked to people and heard that they used mind control. There's also a lot of time spent extrapolating the results of tiny-scale experiements to "demonstrate" the ability of other equipment to manipulate weather patterns and such, when the original experiement has no such validity. It was a big disappointment, and Jesse's certainly sold out here. I'd respected him for seemingly being a straight talker, but this show he's put himself on is bollocks packaged together to look plausible, and the only 'search' undertaken is one for ratings and exposure. I'm more disappointed as I'm quite open to alternative theories and have previously watched and enjoyed stuff by Alex Jones like Endgame and the Obama Deception. Anyway, it becomes quite comical, so I'm going to watch the rest of the 9/11 episode with a sarnie to brighten my day. Edited by SuperScottySteiner, 17th October 2010 - 02:16 PM.
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| wickywoowoo | 17th October 2010 - 06:06 PM Post #108 |
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Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of it as such myself. It certainly is a "TV version" of the theories discussed but to someone like me who has read up on these things my whole life - it represents a big leap forward that a TV channel like this is on TV discussing these things without the BBC-esque "many believers think the jooooos did 9/11" slander that literally no one thinks. You will find about 5 websites that hold that theory and most are called "Jewwatch" and the like. |
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| wickywoowoo | 4th November 2010 - 12:48 AM Post #109 |
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"Foundation X" are coming to a location near you: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201011/ldhansrd/text/101101-0003.htm
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| Loki | 4th November 2010 - 10:49 AM Post #110 |
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I suspect, as the youtube commentator so eloquently put it, "nigga gon lost his mind". But I've put in a call to a couple of guys I know in government to find out what the skinny is. |
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| Honky | 4th November 2010 - 12:21 PM Post #111 |
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| wickywoowoo | 4th November 2010 - 07:35 PM Post #112 |
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I love how he casually laughs off handling billions of pounds of money for terrorists and no one thinks anything of it. That has to be one of the most bizarre speeches ever given in that place, lol. |
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| Harry | 4th November 2010 - 07:50 PM Post #113 |
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That's pretty bizarre stuff there. Anyone know what the fuck he's on about? |
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| wickywoowoo | 5th November 2010 - 04:07 AM Post #114 |
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Sky News have spotted it too. |
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| wickywoowoo | 26th November 2010 - 10:11 PM Post #115 |
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Jesse Ventura refuses to fly anymore |
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| Loki | 2nd December 2010 - 02:29 PM Post #116 |
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Watched JFK the other night. I love that film - even given the fact that most of the "case" is bollocks, it's a great visualisation of the creeping paranoia of obsessive conspiracy theorists. Having said that... I still basically think JFK was killed by trained assassins and that Oswald was a patsy. Do you think we'll ever actually learn what happened, or is it all too long ago now that everyone involved is basically dead? |
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| Bazihnio | 2nd December 2010 - 02:47 PM Post #117 |
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Oliver Stone said himself that he created a myth to counter the Warren myth. I love the fact that Earl Warren was played by the real Jim Garrison, great touch! I don't think we will ever know, I think Oswald was in on it in some capacity but he wasn't acting alone. |
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| wickywoowoo | 2nd December 2010 - 07:40 PM Post #118 |
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There is a confession tape for a proven former CIA agent who admitted to being involved in the assassination. Alex Jones played it on his show a while ago. I think it's quite clear he was done in but we will never get the full info. Unless WikiLeaks get a hold of documents, that is, lol. Does no one find it concerning that the likes of Sarah Palin and Tom Flanagan are calling for Julian Assange to be assassinated? What a free world we live in. If this stuff isn't proof a cabal don't want the public to be free and have full information, then I don't know what is. WikiLeaks is proof conspiracy theories aren't that wacky after all. Edited by wickywoowoo, 2nd December 2010 - 11:03 PM.
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| Loki | 2nd December 2010 - 10:28 PM Post #119 |
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Alex Jones is a nutball though, I wouldn't believe anything he puts out at face value. The interesting thing about WikiLeaks is that it shows that conspiracy theorists are whacked out nutjobs. Where are the Bilderburg documents? Where's the proof of the secret world government plotting 9/11? Where are the dicussions of payments to the lizards or pow-wows with the aliens? All that these super-secret documents actually reveal is quite a lot of bitching about world leaders /allies, and that in fact the world is pretty much as it seems and diplomats really do spend most of their time pretending to like each other for the sake of trade and politics. Essentially, there is no smoking gun. |
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| wickywoowoo | 2nd December 2010 - 10:36 PM Post #120 |
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I was referring more to how someone telling the truth is openly called for assasination by politicians and how there seem to be never ending cover ups of financial and military fuck up's. Fuck all we are told is true. I have a strong interest in all the fringe theories you mentioned and I read on them, but they aren't all there is and they aren't my main interest. This just seems a standard fall back to dismiss everything because of another point. It's close minded. "Oh, the world is as the TV man says because lizards didn't crash a plane into my gran's cunt" isn't a logical reason to think politicians just try their best but aren't that great. It isn't Julian Assange that needs assassinating. *EDIT - I am talking generally here and not to Loki or anyone on here specifically. I am referring to the window lickers who believe everything a politician says because they wear the black suit uniform and say it on TV.* Edited by wickywoowoo, 2nd December 2010 - 11:03 PM.
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