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| Zener Card ESP | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 9 2006, 06:40 PM (1,027 Views) | |
| Isis | Aug 9 2006, 06:40 PM Post #1 |
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The Goddess of Darkness & Desire
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The Zener cards were used in forced choice experiments - ones in which the participant chose the target from a set of known possible targets.Originally used by Rhine and his colleagues, they consist of five simple symbols: star, circle. square, cross a nd wavy lines. The cards were shuffled, originally by hand but later by machine, and the participant then attempted to determine the order of the cards through the use of psi. In a telepathy protocol, the cards were viewed by a remote person (the sender) who attempted to 'transmit' the information to the participant. In a clairvoyance (also called general ESP, or GESP) protocol, the cards were not viewed by anyone prior to the participant's psi attempt. In this experiment, the protocol is a clairvoyant one. When you are ready, the computer will select 25 cards at random, each of which will show one of the five Zener symbols. There are no limits to how often each symbol can be selected (i.e. the pack of cards from which the computer makes its selection is limitless!). Your task is to use psi to determine which cards have been selected. On the next screen, you will see 25 sets of 5 Zener cards. You should choose one from each set. Do this by clicking on each desired card. When you have chosen from each of the 25 sets, click on the button at the bottom of the page and you will be given your results. Please avoid pressing the 'back' button. Note that the results from this are not part of a formal series and are here only for demonstration purposes. Try Here......http://moebius.psy.ed.ac.uk/~paul/cgi-bin/zener.cgi |
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| Ella | Aug 12 2006, 07:54 PM Post #2 |
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Sweet Goddess
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I've got a set of these at home. My son tried them out one day and got them all :o , rotten brat as I was holding them up to focus the image to him he could see the shape by the way the light was hitting the card. |
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| Max | Jun 18 2013, 09:35 AM Post #3 |
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Pickle barrel, pickle barrel, Kumquat!
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The trouble with Zener Cards is the method is statistically flawed: there are only 25 cards in the deck, so you "know" not to guess each shape more than 5 times. There should have been like 100 cards, with 20 of each shape. The cards *should* have been useful in the aggregate, that is, run hundreds and thousands of cheap Zener Card series, and then aggregate them in a computer program to see if you could identify predictions much above average. Unfortunately, the too-short deck renders the analysis statistically worthless. |
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| Isis | Mar 22 2014, 11:45 AM Post #4 |
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This makes a lot of sense it's the same as people who know how to count cards so they have a better chance of being right.
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| Maxie | Mar 24 2014, 12:47 PM Post #5 |
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Oh,Goodness
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It's a crying shame, because a better Zener deck would have been a really good way to show results beyond random. But because the test was statistically flawed, the results are worthless and scientists aren't really interested in fixing it and trying again. There is some evidence that humans can effect a computerized random-number generator beyond chance. It wouldn't be too expensive to rest it. |
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