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Chipping
Topic Started: Oct 26 2007, 02:19 AM (510 Views)
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Ok I've heard the buzz about this for a while and it seems to me like something out of a futuristic movie. "The microchip," being implanted into the skin of human beings.

The most recent news I've heard on this has left me a bit miffed. They are implanting alzheimer patients with microchips or sort of a GPS system, so that they can be located in the event that they become lost. I've also heard talk that in the near future that humans will be implanted at birth with these nifty little gaggits. Now I don't know how much clout this all holds but to be "chipped" and have your total lifes history and also your bank accounts etc,. More or less everything about you known. Does it seem a bit bizzare to everyone else or am I the only one thinking this is just crazy? Is our privacy becoming lost to us?

the newest thing I've seen about this is that they are thinking of installing something in the GPS systems of cars that would enable a police car the ability to stop your car without your stopping it. More or less they described it as your accelerator will not work. They claim that it is for the purpose of saving lives in a high speed chase . This has me a bit worried, I mean what if someone else could do the same? Some psycho praying on the innocent, would have the ability to render your vehicle useless. What then? you become the pray of that person with no means of escaping them.

Is Technology going too far with "The Chip?"
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This technology is indeed patented and there is a very big contract with the U.S. military to bring something like this to fruition. The military reasons that a lost soldier would be tracked easily, and that the chip would transmit information like heart-rate, blood/sugar levels, even body temperature.

This is a...different idea, to be sure, but it is still a ways off. I haven't heard of the Alzheimer's patient thing, but i wouldn't be surprised to see something like that offered...at a tasty price to the family, I'm sure.

I dunno, the idea of outfitting people with a LoJack system is a bit too "Big Brother" to me. I don' want to be found, thank you very much.

I know the talk of the biblical 'Mark of the Beast' is coming next...
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Oct 26 2007, 06:19 AM
Ok I've heard the buzz about this for a while and it seems to me like something out of a futuristic movie. "The microchip," being implanted into the skin of human beings.

The most recent news I've heard on this has left me a bit miffed. They are implanting alzheimer patients with microchips or sort of a GPS system, so that they can be located in the event that they become lost. I've also heard talk that in the near future that humans will be implanted at birth with these nifty little gaggits. Now I don't know how much clout this all holds but to be "chipped" and have your total lifes history and also your bank accounts etc,. More or less everything about you known. Does it seem a bit bizzare to everyone else or am I the only one thinking this is just crazy? Is our privacy becoming lost to us?

the newest thing I've seen about this is that they are thinking of installing something in the GPS systems of cars that would enable a police car the ability to stop your car without your stopping it. More or less they described it as your accelerator will not work. They claim that it is for the purpose of saving lives in a high speed chase . This has me a bit worried, I mean what if someone else could do the same? Some psycho praying on the innocent, would have the ability to render your vehicle useless. What then? you become the pray of that person with no means of escaping them.

Is Technology going too far with "The Chip?"

You worry to much mystical.

My view on this. Yes we are going to far on installing the "Chip" Don't get me wrong for cars thats great.

And yes if the creators of the GPS chip can locate and stop your vehicle in case of theft or it gets lost. Someone else can and probably will try to do the same thing. Car jacking and thieves get better and smarter as technology goes on.


Though one thing I will not stand for is implimenting chips in our skin. You watch things will progress so far that you wont ever have to handle money. The chip will most likely act as a credit.
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I have mixed feeling's about this, As a Mother i think it's great if your child is taken.But then you have the problem with the governement and what they will do with it and how they will track people, I guess i can't really say cause as i stated as a parent i 'd want to find my child, But i don't want the government to know my evy move.... :unsure:
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Though one thing I will not stand for is implimenting chips in our skin. You watch things will progress so far that you wont ever have to handle money. The chip will most likely act as a credit.


Thats the idea. The chip will also contain an electronic 'signature' for your ease and pleasure. You have seen, Im sure, the Fast tap technology most credit cards have, or the Mobil speedpass. It's the same thing...wave your hand and access your account. Buy a beer, pay a bill, etc.

Now, most of you know that I think the Bible is basically a bronze-age equivalent of Grimm's Fairy Tales, but this particular aspect (not being able to buy or sell without a certain 'mark') does sound a bit prophetic. Everyone for years has said the 'Mark of the Beast' will be a computer chip (ever since the advent of computer chips).

However, in a country where embryonic stem cell research is outlawed because the government thinks embryos have little souls and God loves them, do you really think we will see legislation that puts what everyone on Capitol Hill will view as the mark of Satan on our persons? I don't see it.

Also, don't forget that this is still a little bit of a free country here in the States...no one will be able to force you to become a cyborg if you don't want to, and paper money isn't going anywhere soon. Besides, the huge number of Christians in this country alone would revolt fiercely against such a policy and refuse the implant.
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Oct 27 2007, 07:07 AM

However, in a country where embryonic stem cell research is outlawed because the government thinks embryos have little souls and God loves them, do you really think we will see legislation that puts what everyone on Capitol Hill will view as the mark of Satan on our persons? I don't see it.

GWH just because Stem cell research is outlawed doesn't mean that it is not happening. They are probably using those "Test subjects" to test out these "Chips".
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I'm really not all that worried DK. I just have mixed feelings about this. I mean my dad has alzheimers and we are scared he will wonder off and we won't be able to find him. But! If my daughter is driving her car at night on a back road and some lunatic can stop her car I disagree with it. For safety, for police, etc,. I don't have a problem with it.

The other thing that gets me is I don't want the government knowing more than they already do about me. I mean we are supposed to live in the land of the free well I'm beginning to think that our freedom is being jeopardized by this notion of the chip. I don't disagree with technology. I think that in some instances it's a great thing. But to categorize society and instill chips into our bodies well I think we should have the choice to not want it.
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For me, no way no way and no way do I agree with chipping. Its just too weird and could be too easily taken advantage of. I am my own person and I don't see why I should be monitored centrally.

Someone wants to know where I am they can track my mobile phone or check one of the thousands of CCTV cameras!
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I've refused to believe they would really start doing something like this. Way too weird if they do.
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....do you really think we will see legislation that puts what everyone on Capitol Hill will view as the mark of Satan on our persons?  I don't see it.....Besides, the huge number of Christians in this country alone would revolt fiercely against such a policy and refuse the implant.

Actually, if you pay enough attention to what conspiracy types think of George Bush that's exactly what will happen. Kinda funny that you put it in those terms.

I don't see why you single Christian's out. If something like this were to actually get to a point of being used I could easily Christians blindly buying into it far quicker then many other religious groups. Especially if you had someone like George Bush selling it to them.
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Oct 27 2007, 10:29 AM
GWH just because Stem cell research is outlawed doesn't mean that it is not happening. They are probably using those "Test subjects" to test out these "Chips".

So you are saying they are testing chip technology in stem cell embryos?

You realize that stem cell embryos are...like...10 cells big, right?

............all kidding aside, I see your meaning. DO I think no one in the US is doing stem cell research? No, I do not. Do I think our government is inhibiting said research? Hell yes. Europe, for one, is light0years ahead of us in this important, life-altering field.
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Stem Cell research is very much being done in the US. Chipping people I think is just wrong for many reasons. First of all it gives the government too much leverage "more than they already have." To say it's done for a good purpose is just so they can get more over on us than they already are.
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Stem Cell research is very much being done in the US.

It is being done...but not "very much". Stem cell research can only be done on frozen embryos that were put into stasis pre-2001, and even then the research that can be done is extremely limited. All of the cutting edge research usually destroys the specimen involved, and anything of that nature is not allowed.

It is a backward, misguided and ignorant approach to a scientific field that could save millions of lives and advance our species.
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Stem Cell research is very much being done in the US. Chipping people I think is just wrong for many reasons. First of all it gives the government too much leverage "more than they already have." To say it's done for a good purpose is just so they can get more over on us than they already are.

And who's to stop the government from gaining even more power?

I thought so. No one messes with the government so they can do what ever the hell they want without any objections.
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GWH I agree with you totally. There could be milliions of lives saved but everyone has to have their hands in the cookie jar for the wrong reasons.
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