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THE FALL OF LUCIFER; LUCIFER
Topic Started: Oct 18 2008, 01:15 PM (2,291 Views)
DONTEATUS
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:reading: We all are the results of our own up bringing and where that lead us to become indivual`s with our own belief systems. This is the delima`s mankind faces in religion as such. I wonder if "nfinty_8 is even around and contemplateing Her Relogion as of today?
I like to belive that we are truley transient beings of everlasting elements of enegry.this is the Inner self or Some call it God! the universial elements of everything we are aware of,and some were not. Life goes on thru our enegry and life we bring to everyone we meet.
So try to bring positive life to all .Thats at least a start,and from there its only time that runs along with you to the next stage of eveloution,and Atomic one at least its proven that we are all made of the Good stuff and return to the same atoms we started with!
Look at it all in the positive and its a easy spec,in time Look at it like its a Drag or painful and it becomes what you manafest. just my thoughts.
nfinity 8 maybe already where she needs to be?
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ok being a major christian let me help you all out here... Lucifer was the archangel, and also what one may call the devils advocate, to coin a phrase... he was the one who always presented the other side of the argument, that was his job... he was cast down from heaven beacause he refused to kneel before man, stating that he was created first, we should kneel to him... Well this of course pissed off the almighty,, and he sent him to hell, which some believe is in the center of the earth, and others another dimension where he and his followers prepare for the end times and the final battle with god... so to answer your question in a long and rambling sense, Lucifer did not land on earth but either in it or in a seperate dimension
You can take your heaven, when I die I sooner go to Middle Earth..

- George R.R. Martin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgcoBKWTW14
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Ah I was always getting those two confused. thanks mate. How ever, to someone like me its just a story. Who knows if it happened or not. *Shrugs*
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He was supposed to have fallen in Babylon
Does a fallen angel deserve a second chance? You decide
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Hmm where have you seen this? I havn't seen anything about this, so if you could point me in that direction...
You can take your heaven, when I die I sooner go to Middle Earth..

- George R.R. Martin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgcoBKWTW14
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ok being a major christian let me help you all out here... Lucifer was the archangel, and also what one may call the devils advocate, to coin a phrase... he was the one who always presented the other side of the argument, that was his job... he was cast down from heaven beacause he refused to kneel before man, stating that he was created first, we should kneel to him... Well this of course pissed off the almighty,, and he sent him to hell, which some believe is in the center of the earth, and others another dimension where he and his followers prepare for the end times and the final battle with god... so to answer your question in a long and rambling sense, Lucifer did not land on earth but either in it or in a seperate dimension
Where did this information come from?
Specifically; "he was cast down from heaven beacause he refused to kneel before man" and "and he sent him to hell, which some believe is in the center of the earth, and others another dimension where he and his followers prepare for the end times and the final battle with god" ?

I'm wondering because I haven't come across those ideas in the bible. Are they from another apocalyptic text or maybe a new interpretation of the old... ?
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i read that he landed in the area of babylon, the are that is not to be in habitated by man...i can't remember where i read it though...i do not if this is true or not...i didn't put much thought into it..

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:wabbit: ....<<>> Lucifer was the ruler of the Earth. He had his own Kingdom on Earth that God gave him. Satan and one third of the angels led a rebellion against God in Heaven. He / Lucifer wanted to De-Throne the True God of Heaven. God put an end to his rebellion and the Holy Bible say he was just cast to the Earth. And God destroyed his kingdom here on the Earth with the first flood of (Genesis).

I can post all about Lucifer / Satan if someone want to learn more about Him.

Thank you, JoeyCastaneda56
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No sod really knows were he landed..or if he landed
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Folks, being from the Ssouth and being fed reeligion, Sun. and Wed. except for Lent, I have read the above ccomments and I didn't come across some of it in the KJ Version, as taught in S.School or worship services, nor at DUKE. I am totally clueless where some quotes came from, I saw nothing that coudbe sated or interperted into Latin or Greek, or from either, for that matter. Maybe some early church fathers got involved in it but I am not a religious source of knowledge and I often am concerned about those who think they are. Debate, not doctrine or dogma.
"While hiding out in Cairo,... I'm a desperate man...Send lawyers, guns, and money,... the shit has hit the fan".(Paraphrase from "LAWYERS, GUNS AND MONEY")

"...We die at such a place;
some swearing; some dying, some crying for a surgeon;
....some upon their wives left poor behind them;
...some upon the debts they owed;
some upon their children rawly left.

I am afeared there are few die well that die in battle..."
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Being from the south myself i can tell they preach hell and brimestone all the time, most of the statements are what our preacher's read into the bible....
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This is a Drama Free Zone..!
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If you really want to know, I would check three places:

(1) Satanist teachings. (consult a Luciferian Priest) It's Lucifer's religion, let them tell you.
(and if they can't, they aren't much of a religion. Jus' sayin'.)
(2) Jewish Apocrypha/Rabbinical Teachings (consult a Rabbi)
(3) Catholic Apocrypha/Mystery teachings (consult a Priest) (this is least effective form).

The bible isn't clear on if Lucifer was cast out prior to the creation of Man or after.

Much pop culture has him rebelling against God because he didn't want to worship/serve humans, which suggests Lucifer fell after Adam and Eve (and their many children) were created, but before the Fall (because he caused it).

But there are lots of different sources other than the bible that might help answer your question (or at least get you closer), so start with the above. If the Luciferians can't help you, they should be able to direct you. They aren't mean, nasty people (generally), they just have a crappy reputation. I have found the ones I have met to be intelligent, rational people (as rational as Christians). So take that with a grain of salt! Heh.
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Lucifer was simply the Latin term for "the bearer of light", in fact, the "morning star", the Planet Venus, seen in the early morning, and precedes dawn. "Lucifers fall" was most likely to have been a huge bolide, as was the case in 1908, when another bolide exploded over Siberia.
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In the Book of Job, Satin was God's helper, testing humans for their faith in God.

It wasn't until the dogma of the Church in the dark days of the Black Death, that Satin became an evil spirit.
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