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| XNavyGunner | Sep 7 2009, 07:28 PM Post #1 |
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They have been told as bedtime stories by generations of parents, but fairy tales such as Little Red Riding Hood may be even older than was previously thought. A study by anthropologists has explored the origins of folk tales and traced the relationship between varients of the stories recounted by cultures around the world. The researchers adopted techniques used by biologists to create the taxonomic tree of life, which shows how every species comes from a common ancestor. Dr Jamie Tehrani, a cultural anthropologist at Durham University, studied 35 versions of Little Red Riding Hood from around the world. Whilst the European version tells the story of a little girl who is tricked by a wolf masquerading as her grandmother, in the Chinese version a tiger replaces the wolf. In Iran, where it would be considered odd for a young girl to roam alone, the story features a little boy. Contrary to the view that the tale originated in France shortly before Charles Perrault produced the first written version in the 17th century, Dr Tehrani found that the varients shared a common ancestor dating back more than 2,600 years. He said: “Over time these folk tales have been subtly changed and have evolved just like an biological organism. Because many of them were not written down until much later, they have been misremembered or reinvented through hundreds of generations. “By looking at how these folk tales have spread and changed it tells us something about human psychology and what sort of things we find memorable. “The oldest tale we found was an Aesopic fable that dated from about the sixth century BC, so the last common ancestor of all these tales certainly predated this. We are looking at a very ancient tale that evolved over time.” Dr Tehrani, who will present his work on Tuesday at the British Science Festival in Guildford, Surrey, identified 70 variables in plot and characters between different versions of Little Red Riding Hood. He found that the stories could be grouped into distinct families according to how they evolved over time. The original ancestor is thought to be similar to another tale, The Wolf and the Kids, in which a wolf pretends to be a nanny goat to gain entry to a house full of young goats. Stories in Africa are closely related to this original tale, whilst stories from Japan, Korea, China and Burma form a sister group. Tales told in Iran and Nigeria were the closest relations of the modern European version. Perrault’s French version was retold by the Brothers Grimm in the 19th century. Dr Tehrani said: “We don’t know very much about the processes of transmission of these stories from culture to culture, but it is possible that they may being passed along trade routes or with the movement of people.” Professor Jack Zipes, a retired professor of German at the University of Minnesota who is an expert on fairy tales and their origins, described the work as “exciting”. He believes folk tales may have helped people to pass on tips for survival to new generations. He said: “Little Red Riding Hood is about violation or rape, and I suspect that humans were just as violent in 600BC as they are today, so they will have exchanged tales about all types of violent acts. “I have tried to show that tales relevant to our adaptation to the environment and survival are stored in our brains and we consistently use them for all kinds of reference points.” Source |
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| Isis | Sep 8 2009, 03:34 PM Post #2 |
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The Goddess of Darkness & Desire
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There is always a little truth in all lie's......
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| GRAVEYARD HOUND | Jan 22 2011, 05:43 AM Post #3 |
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Interesting info. Guess that might explain the early childhood trama that seems to abound, if you believe Freud and Jung and others. As for the "in all truth"... I guess there is some merit to it. You can turn it around and you have "in all lies" and have something very interesting t speculate over. Of course the gods of ancient Egypt, the 3 major ones in my opinion anyway, were always just a little "quirkie" for me. I found the Nordic ones a little more wothy of worship but respect to all. |
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"While hiding out in Cairo,... I'm a desperate man...Send lawyers, guns, and money,... the shit has hit the fan".(Paraphrase from "LAWYERS, GUNS AND MONEY") "...We die at such a place; some swearing; some dying, some crying for a surgeon; ....some upon their wives left poor behind them; ...some upon the debts they owed; some upon their children rawly left. I am afeared there are few die well that die in battle..." KING HENRY V. ActIV.Scene i | |
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| Isis | Jan 22 2011, 04:57 PM Post #4 |
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Lie's what lies of egypt.....
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| GRAVEYARD HOUND | Jan 23 2011, 03:30 AM Post #5 |
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Aside from you being the Admin. here, I guess there is something behind the "drame free" zone issue that keeps on showing up . Odd, you don't look like carved refliefs of her I saw in temples and tombs when I have toured Upper and Lower Egypt but I guess everyone has their own interpertation of what they look like
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"While hiding out in Cairo,... I'm a desperate man...Send lawyers, guns, and money,... the shit has hit the fan".(Paraphrase from "LAWYERS, GUNS AND MONEY") "...We die at such a place; some swearing; some dying, some crying for a surgeon; ....some upon their wives left poor behind them; ...some upon the debts they owed; some upon their children rawly left. I am afeared there are few die well that die in battle..." KING HENRY V. ActIV.Scene i | |
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| Isis | Jan 23 2011, 03:35 PM Post #6 |
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The Drama free zone is how we run the site... Everyone must respect each other as they want to be respected.. As for Isis i have dozen of siggys for her..... |
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| GRAVEYARD HOUND | Jan 24 2011, 07:33 AM Post #7 |
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You are totally correct. Very few have the info. you have deemed fit to share with us on such oscure entities who deserv more respect than they usually get. I do so look forward to reading more and sharing the reams of info. I have with those so motivated to learn from them.
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"While hiding out in Cairo,... I'm a desperate man...Send lawyers, guns, and money,... the shit has hit the fan".(Paraphrase from "LAWYERS, GUNS AND MONEY") "...We die at such a place; some swearing; some dying, some crying for a surgeon; ....some upon their wives left poor behind them; ...some upon the debts they owed; some upon their children rawly left. I am afeared there are few die well that die in battle..." KING HENRY V. ActIV.Scene i | |
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. Odd, you don't look like carved refliefs of her I saw in temples and tombs when I have toured Upper and Lower Egypt but I guess everyone has their own interpertation of what they look like

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