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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 25 2006, 09:30 PM (533 Views) | |
| Snowflake | Jan 25 2006, 09:30 PM Post #1 |
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I wish to file a formal complaint against a member nation of The Exodus Region. This nation has a nations name of NEW PACEAL, this nation has been posting inciting and unnecessary Posts on our RMB they also indicates that they have access to our offsite forum yet no nation by that names exists. His posts have unnecessarily upset our nations. The Articles of Alliance which exists between our 2 great Regions allows for this action.
Our friendship has spanned for a long time, I would not wish this nation tarnish our friendship. I await your response and remedy of the issue. Faithfully Yours Flake Founder of Dun Eideann and Dun Eideann 2 |
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| Snowflake | Jan 25 2006, 09:33 PM Post #2 |
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| Joshua | Jan 25 2006, 09:44 PM Post #3 |
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My post on our RMB. We have been friends for a long time flake, but I do not see the harm in New Paceal's comments. In all honest if I saw a nation making homophobic comemnts in another region I probably would have said something myself. I do not want our friendships to be tarnished. I value your friendship and that of DE. We have been through a lot and helped each other immensely.
I do not see how New Paceal is undermining our friendship with his recent posts. His posts in DE IMHO do not hold any malicious content in them. In DE2 he does attack that one nation for psosible homophobic beliefs. There was a post made against Erconia. My inclination is to give new Paceal a verbal warning at worst at this point. But, this is not my call alone. |
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| Snowflake | Jan 25 2006, 11:12 PM Post #4 |
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I assure you, I saw it as NO PANK! It was Not NORMAL!! Yes a good lesson in not taking things so seriusly. - GIVE ME A BREAK! DUN EIDEANN 2 reqiures a Written apology! from the founder, NEw Paceal and the nation behind this puppet. |
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| Joshua | Jan 26 2006, 12:10 AM Post #5 |
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Flake there was no hamrful message posted in the WFE or RMB of these regions. New Paceal stated that he was only behind DE4, not DE3. We have no control over who wa behind DE3. As I said I would have made the same comments aboutt he psosible homophobic nation in DE2, as I cannot stand bigots in anyway, shape, or form. The only harmful comments I saw were in regards to Erconia. |
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| Snowflake | Jan 26 2006, 12:33 AM Post #6 |
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. no private revenge or retaliation shall take place I stand firm. |
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| Joshua | Jan 26 2006, 12:37 AM Post #7 |
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I do not see how New Paceal was attacking an ally. It is not the same as the imposter regions that we had. There was specific statements in their WFE's and RMB's stating they wanted to take us down. |
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| Snowflake | Jan 26 2006, 01:53 PM Post #8 |
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AND STILL IT CONTINUES
It appears that the long Treaty of Alliance which Dun Eidean 2 and The Exodus, has enjoyed is sever jeopardy. Over an Exodus nation who remains un controlled. I again request the Exodus take charge of this Out of Control Exodus Nation! 24 hours are established as a deadline for action! Friday January 27, 2006 12:30 CST. After this time expires and no action is taken or negotiations started. The Region Dun Eideann 2 shall place before its Grand Council a motion to resind the Treaty of Alliance Between Dun Eideann 2 and the Exodus Region. Faithfully Yours Flake Founder and Prime Minister od Dun Eideann 2 Acting Foreign Minister. |
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| Snowflake | Jan 26 2006, 02:09 PM Post #9 |
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Offical Notice to Dun Eideann 2 Nations posted on Dun Eideann 2 RMB January 26, 2006 13:00 CST
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| Via Bestiae | Jan 26 2006, 05:34 PM Post #10 |
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This is beyond ridiculous. Where in the Nine Bloody Hells do you get off dictating terms to us?
Under the terms of our treaty, this should have been taken to our Senate. You did not take it to the Senate, but straight to the Founder. And now because you have not yet received the answer you want you are threatening to end our alliance if we don't bow to your demands within 24 hours. Even though New Paceal has departed The Exodus, I say "go ahead." End our Alliance. The Exodus would be better off without allies who would act in this manner. As to your actual complaint, I agree with AA. They're hardly an attack on your region. Merely one nation registering their views on another nation who dwells there. My recommendation to our government: if Flake doesn't end the alliance, we should end it ourselves. |
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| Snowflake | Jan 26 2006, 05:47 PM Post #11 |
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Very Well |
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| Joshua | Jan 26 2006, 06:49 PM Post #12 |
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Flake I just read the quotes you posted no where in them is New Paceal attacking DE2 or it's beliefs. I see him asking legitimate questions of another nation in a respectful tone. I do not plan on persecuting this unless it gets out of control or he starts hurting DE and the nations there. He is not flaming anyone, he is not being abusive. New Paceal has left The Exodus. |
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| Snowflake | Jan 26 2006, 07:29 PM Post #13 |
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AA Yes Paceal left to found a New Region: Large Shoes Dun Eideann 2 found it interesting and yet disturbing, that an ally regions nation would freely post information and details negative in nature (not necessarily untrue) on our RMB. This action shook up many nations in the region and had a negative effect on our current recruiting program. Then to find he had a friendly status in The Exodus, was near the limit of mine and the Regions patience. Put your self in my shoes and think what you woulds have felt had this happened during your major renewal program. You would be upset as well. At this point I wish to suspend the Formal Conplaint. Flake |
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| Via Bestiae | Jan 26 2006, 07:39 PM Post #14 |
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The Exodus is not a dictatorship. We have never told the nations that reside here where they can go or what they can say. New Paceal spoke his mind, not the collective feelings of The Exodus. To my knowledge, he never told anyone in the government that he was going to say anything. You're trying to turn one nation's actions out to be an attack by The Exodus as a whole. I still favor ending the alliance between TE and DE2. |
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| Joshua | Jan 26 2006, 09:48 PM Post #15 |
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Flake, I am trying to put myself in your shoes, but i think you are wrong. I believe whole heartedly I have face worsed in this game then you have. I have seen some really shitty things, and what new paceal is doing does not qualify. I still feel NP was fairly tactful, and respectful in his statements. Can you show me quotes to say otherwise? Lets forget Erconia for a moment. Why was what NP said about the homophobe so wrong? I read the thread on the DE2 forum, his ideas on homosexuals seemed inappopriate, bigotted, and immature. I personally would not want a person like this running for delegate of The Exodus. I honestly do not see why what NP has said warrants so much fuss. Believe I have always been and am willing to stand by our allies. You know that is true flake. I was there when Akaria was facing trouble with other nations of this region as well, Myself and others here were there for DE when it had its issues. I hope that DE2 and The Exodus can stay allies. I honestly feel this is being blown out of proportion. |
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| Avolon | Jan 27 2006, 11:11 AM Post #16 |
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Flake, My ole friend. You of all people know I would take action against Paceal if he openly wronged DE2. I have a deep regard for that region and would not see it harmed in any fashion, but as VB and AA have stated he posted nothing out of line cept the Erconia comments. I will say though I recieved several TG's from regions that Erconia was in warning me to eject him because he is dangerous. I never brought things to a head though like this. I waited and looked for solid evidence, which luckily we never needed, and as for Chek's sig statement and forum posts in DE2 well...that goes without saying. I hope you will look deep within before making a move that will have profound effects in both our regions. I would hope our long friendship has taught us something, we should trust one another more than this. Justice will be handed down, when a wrong is committed, but we must not allow personal anger to fog our judgement. Avolon Founder The Exodus |
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| BearEmpire | Jan 27 2006, 04:42 PM Post #17 |
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Until the current tensions between the regions has been solved one way or another, TE's ambassador has returned from DE2. Sorry Flake but I want no part of a region supporting homophobia and hatred. If you do a little research on Chek, you will find his history and puppets are clouded with it. Secretary of State / and former ambassador to DE2. PS I removed my own access to DE2's forum since I no longer wish to participate in a group moving towards becoming a pro-hatred region. EOT |
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