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| Renegade | Feb 9 2014, 10:56 AM Post #1 |
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Amanda does a great job representing Ontario's women hunting fraternity. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/women-and-hunting/3167871368001 |
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billert
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Feb 9 2014, 01:50 PM Post #2 |
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"Harvested"? "Empowering"...blah, blah. Who cares if women hunt or don't hunt. It's an uphill battle with no point. |
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| Shane | Feb 9 2014, 06:34 PM Post #3 |
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Lol let me guess. She's killed a bigger buck than you. ? Just kidding all in fun |
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billert
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Feb 9 2014, 06:57 PM Post #4 |
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I'm not concerned or offended if she did :) She should have marketed her cook book to husbands tired of bringing game home and not trusting the wife to cook it! Speaking of which, how many wives actually cook the game? Why are men in charge of cooking over fire? Did men never trust women to cook their wild game over the fire? Too precious? How many women on this board? What's the ratio to men? So many questions. I've watched too many of these stories...woman feels lonely by acting masculine, tries to influence other women to do the things she does. She gains Alpha female status and rank by being a leader. Seems like the only way to gain rank in the female world. I don't give a damn if anyone else hunts or doesn't hunt. I just enjoy it. It's actually quite a harmful message, that women constantly tell other women what to do and how to be. If she likes hunting, fine, why the social/political agenda all the time. |
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Feb 9 2014, 07:34 PM Post #5 |
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Got some wife problems at home Billert? |
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billert
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Feb 11 2014, 09:25 AM Post #6 |
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Got some wife problems at home Billert? No, because I leave my wife at home where she belongs.[/quote] |
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| Renegade | Feb 11 2014, 10:17 AM Post #7 |
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The women we do have on site think you're a tool. Just sayin. |
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| Extreme | Feb 11 2014, 10:39 AM Post #8 |
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Feb 11 2014, 11:00 AM Post #9 |
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[/quote]Do you actually listen to the things you say Billert? I feel sorry for your wife and it has nothing to do with hunting! |
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Feb 11 2014, 01:13 PM Post #10 |
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I was fortunate enough to share a booth at the SCI Convention in Las Vegas last week with one of the most dedicated and experienced bow hunters I have ever had the pleasure to have met and know personally. Just happens, she's a woman and has no agenda but to do what she enjoys and to willingly share her knowledge, experience and adventures. Too bad some people don't understand that men don't own the outdoors and to have a wife, daughter or girlfriend that enjoys hunting, fishing & all things nature has to offer only benefits the time you will have to enjoy and share with someone you actually want to spend time with. Looking forward to ice fishing this weekend with my wife, daughters and grand daughters who are all very comfortable in preparing wild game / fish over an open fire. Amazing. |
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billert
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Feb 11 2014, 03:45 PM Post #11 |
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First of all, women can make up their own minds and don't need other women or men to tell them what will "empower" them. This is a huge insult. If she likes hunting, she doesn't need someone else to tell her what to do. Second, my wife is feminine. She paddles the boat and relaxes and I fish... if the weather is temperate. She has no interested in "harvesting" game. I kill game, but whatever suits her sensibility I guess. She is perfectly capable of making her own empowering decisions and doesn't need women like the aforementioned to tell her what she should be doing. If you feel sorry for my wife, you are insulting her more than you are me. Did you just call her stupid for being with me? That's dumb. I can appreciate that my wife doesn't enjoy killing things, can you? Or do all women need to hunt? Now you and I both know that you don't bring your wife to hunt camp, you go with men. So don't be silly. My wife enjoys being warm and comfortable and there's nothing wrong with that. I belong in the woods and she belongs in the house. See? Or does that sound "oppressive?" Like as if I decided she belongs there. Bah! Maybe I should encourage her more to go hunting to be more like me. Like I said, waste of time. And no, I never said all women belong in my house, I said MY WIFE belongs in the house. Your wife can do whatever the hells she wants to do, I don't make decisions or speak for other women. My wife and I made a funny video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxHlwOqdJ2w prt 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONTuSRNekg |
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| Shane | Feb 11 2014, 04:10 PM Post #12 |
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Lol. Oh where to start ? Lots of woman who hunt are feminine you act like woman who do hunt are not feminine |
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Feb 11 2014, 07:47 PM Post #14 |
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She is perfectly capable of making her own empowering decisions I said MY WIFE belongs in the house Do you allow her to vote? I mean with her own choice |
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condescending twat Someone who looks down on other people and is beyond arrogant | |
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Feb 11 2014, 11:39 PM Post #15 |
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So then why do you post so much garbage on an open forum? You make no sense. Sorry but your explanation leaves me confused but confident that if you can convince a female to be with you there is hope for everyone. |
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Feb 12 2014, 07:35 AM Post #16 |
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'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain |
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Feb 12 2014, 08:59 AM Post #17 |
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So True, you can't fix stupid and practice make perfect.
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Feb 12 2014, 11:55 PM Post #18 |
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Im sorry I didn't read the following posts but I would like to say My wife/ girlfriend is here on OTB and HER name is April Dawn. And u know what .....I cant go hunting, fishing without her and I love it that she has the interest SHE ROCKS she practices all summer long and she shoots and she kills and she guts and she transports and she cuts meat and cooks and eats! what else can u ask for ( hell she has more guns than I do! ) if you want proof go to the moose hunt forum ( it brought tears to my eyes) . I love my women and she is my next best friend!!!!! My theory is if I can do it so can you!!!!!!!!! and she can and we love every second of it CHEERS!!!!!!! |
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| Shane | Feb 13 2014, 07:45 AM Post #19 |
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Nice bad dog |
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forkhorn
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Feb 13 2014, 11:52 AM Post #20 |
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I can see a Billert point. Somethings said are way out there mind you. Women don't need to do "traditional" guy things to feel empowerment. But if they like it, all the power to them. It should be encouraged if they have an interest. We all should enjoy what we do and we shouldn't be doing it to make someone else happy(except on my B-day). My wife doesn't have no interest in Hunting. We have taken drives and short walks but it doesn't tickle her fancy. She likes fishing more but will quickly turn to sun tanning and reading a book if the bites off(and I hate tan lines so its all good). But that's how she enjoys the outdoors. To each there own I guess. A good friend of mine had a wife that was glued to his hip. They did everything together. When there marriage ended(numerous reasons) he felt like they just did to much together and he didn't have any breathing room. He said eventually they where in constant conflict over everything and it spiralled out of control. So a happy medium is needed and it has to be realized that both parties have ideas and inputs. Back to work..... Its funny how threads like this develop |
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billert
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Feb 13 2014, 12:15 PM Post #21 |
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Hey at least one person can read. The rest of you just subbed in your own narratives. One guy didn't even read the part where I said that my wife decides that her place is at home, so I'll repeat it. Women wants to hunt = fine. Women should hunt to feel empowered (said by a woman or man) = stupid Then I wrote a bunch of crap about how society has been wanking women around all over the place making them feel like crap for being 1) Too feminine or not masculine enough, not man enough, not having enough agency, blah, blah, blah. Clear? My wife paddles the boat, reads books and eats chips but only if the weather is temperate and the biting insects tolerable. Otherwise, I'm on my own, and that's fine with me. My argument was perfectly laid out. Was the confusing part, the part where you disagreed with my viewpoint or can you just not follow a rational argument? Yes, home for the man...I have no worries mate. Take helm. Chicks dig assholes I guess. Edited by billert, Feb 13 2014, 12:22 PM.
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forkhorn
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Feb 13 2014, 01:12 PM Post #22 |
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And a quick note about the OP. According to her interview it appears that Amanda is a person how enjoys the outdoors and is a good representative for the hunting community. All the power to her... I just watched the interview.. hahahahaha Edited by forkhorn, Feb 13 2014, 01:13 PM.
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Feb 13 2014, 02:04 PM Post #23 |
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Obviously one does. Can you dig a deeper hole for yourself? Edited by Muskoka Whitetails, Feb 13 2014, 02:05 PM.
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Feb 13 2014, 02:22 PM Post #24 |
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Feb 13 2014, 05:47 PM Post #25 |
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I understand what your trying to say. Just stop saying it in such a ridiculous and rude manner. Get it? You've done this in the past in other threads. You contribute some really good videos and posts so stick to that demeanour and i honestly enjoy those threads. You could have gotten your point across in the first post without it being rude, and lets face it you worded your posts to get attention. Now back to some more contributing posts.
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billert
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Feb 14 2014, 09:33 AM Post #26 |
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I absolutely could word my posts to make them more cushy and less offensive, but I choose not to. I go my own way, and don't really care what other people think. Challenge me on the fact is you will, ridicule, it matters not to me. However, this forum has gotten rather boring in the recent past in large part because no one is questioning the status quo, no one is presenting dissenting opinions, everyone agrees, pats each other on the back, and massages their emotions. At least one guy needs to disagree to have a worthwhile discussions. Women make up 11% of hunters which is up from 9% 5 years ago. How many stick to hunting? Do women like killing things? I'm see lots of women blow shots on video and then when they do make a good shot the cry after they kill things - seriously, there's no crying in hunting for gods sakes. I don't bring my 4 year old hunting either, because he's got no interest, no attention span, can't keep quiet or still and wouldn't be able to hand the death and guts. When he's older he probably will. Most women have the same sensibility. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131103-women-hunters-local-meat-food-outdoor-sports/ This is the kind of stuff I find bothering. She gets to do it on tv, her first time, then she just lays back and lets her kids and dad do the hunting. This is HOW women DO hunting. By the way, it's not really hunting - obviously, just women pony backing onto things men actually do - and no, I'm not saying EVERY women doesn't really hunt, but they do it much differently than men do it. From the comments section of another article: "stacy harris Nov 7, 2013 I was able to harvest my first deer last year on National Television (Deer and Deer Hunting TV and Destination Whitetail) and it was one of the best experiences I have ever had. I am so passionate about using wild game in cooking that I have written several books on the subject of Sustainable Living including wild game as my meat source. Mostly my husband and children bring home the "free range meat" and I cook it to perfection! I LOVE VENISON and consider it one of the best foods in the world; it is tasty and healthy. There is really nothing new about this lifestyle. It was normal for families to harvest their food from the woods and their kitchen gardens right out back. Wonderful article." Edited by billert, Feb 14 2014, 09:40 AM.
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Feb 14 2014, 10:47 AM Post #27 |
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you telling me you didn't shed a little tear when you put a poor shot on one of your first big bucks, couldn't find it/didn't look hard enough and then the next spring you found the skeletal remains and then posed for your pictures? I don't think that people find you offensive, most based on what I am reading find you rude and arrogant and in your own words an asshole. Not me though, I find you entertaining |
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| Partikle | Feb 14 2014, 01:24 PM Post #28 |
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Ok I just got here, what did I miss?
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Feb 14 2014, 01:57 PM Post #29 |
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Well I couldn't just stay standing by and watching this post eating my popcorn.... Do you not think that it is just the emotion of the hunt? We all react differently to the adrenaline after the kill shot or when we see the animal go down, so if a woman cries after she harvests a game animal, so what...I got a little choked up when my wife shot her first deer a couple years back to, because I was so happy that she took the time to spend time with me and enjoy in what I love to do, and yeah she did like killing the deer because it provided food for us for the winter. Are you going to say I don't belong in hunting because I sometimes get choked up over it? I see lots of guys blow shots on video and they are practically in tears as well... so whats the difference. I'm sorry if you find this forum boring because it all of us patting each other on the back...well sorry, but that's what the hunting community does, we stick together and enjoy the great bounties and opportunities that hunting provides, regardless of whether we are female or male. If you find it so boring, why don't you leave, after this thread I don't think you will be hurting anyone's feelings. |
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Feb 14 2014, 02:05 PM Post #30 |
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great post Bo, well said (we really need a pat on the back emocion thingy) |
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| April Dawn | Feb 14 2014, 07:49 PM Post #31 |
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ok so I have sat here and bit my tongue through this entire thing but can no longer do it. I am here to speak as a woman hunter that I think we've gotten a bit of a bad rap through this interview and am here to say that one woman does not reflect all of us, same as one asshole man does not sum up all men.. I am a hunter first and foremost but I happen to be a woman . I have shot several deer, my first moose last year, ducks, turkey, grouse and also love to fish. When I go hunting I prefer to go sit on my own,( because I have to sit perfectly silent and still), I field dress my own kill, we as a hunt camp butcher our own kills, then once the meat is home both bad dog and I each cook equally and try all kinds of new recipes to figure out what we enjoy the most. I have also shed a tear after each kill, not because I am over sensitive, but because I am thrilled that I have made a good shot, the animal is down and mostly because the adrenaline is pumping through me still like crazy and I am so excited at another success. I was introduced to hunting by bad dog, not another woman trying to empower me which I agree is not the right reason to start hunting. I started hunting, like I said because bad dog introduced me to his world, but I fell in love with it, and continue to do it because I fully enjoy every aspect of hunting despite who introduced me to it. I feel I have a passion for it and go every chance I get. I am not like these woman that are being quoted and all the other woman hunters I know aren't either. I am a hunter who has a passion for hunting, every single aspect of it, even right down to freezing my ass off for hours for that one glimpse of whatever may appear. If that makes me unique well so be it, but the way I see it, it just makes me another hunter out there doing what they love to do. This is just my opinion. |
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| Shane | Feb 14 2014, 08:18 PM Post #32 |
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Well said April |
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Feb 14 2014, 08:25 PM Post #33 |
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I think this might be correct, its not meant to be disrespectful, but I "massage your emotions" and pat you on the back for a well said read |
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Feb 14 2014, 10:15 PM Post #34 |
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Well said April Dawn P.S. I have shed a tear or two in the field Once I got a little teary eyed when I took my 4.5 year old daughter out chicken hunting. We went to take down our archery moose camp and brought the kids for a night. We were walking down an old road and the birds where everywhere. After getting our last bird of my limit and seeing the excitement in her face I noticed a tear welling in her eye. As we looked at the birds and there plumage. She said she know why we got the birds but asked if I felt bad for shooting them. I said yes. I told her you should feel sadness when you take a animals life. It shows that you have feelings and are human. Its good to be emotionally connected to your surroundings and responsible for your actions. She agreed. We eventually cleaned the birds back at camp and had them for dinner. This year we did the same thing but before we set out on our walk she told me exactly what I told her a year previous.....and told me not to worry if I saw a tear in her eye. Edited by forkhorn, Feb 14 2014, 10:51 PM.
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Feb 15 2014, 08:18 AM Post #35 |
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Men have bee the hunters throughout our past to protect women from the negative emotions surrounding the hunt (war too). That's why we now have butchers and farmers and buy meat in syran wrap and styrofoam. The slight glimpse of hair or feather and instantly - yuck, I'm not eating that. This hits closer to home for women, as they have been in charge of nurturing and caring for families. Again, there's nothing wrong with that. Like Dawn, not all women feel this as much, and men certainly push their feelings aside much more easily. But we are typically more excited and humbled than sad to the point of crying. The emotions about killing drive many women away from hunting big game and that's fine, killing isn't easy and we shouldn't be encouraging everyone to do it, not the least of which might suffer much more. We have to think, what are we doing here, why are we drawing men and women into the center of our genders. We're killing femininity and masculinity. To the guy who told me to buzz off, you buzz off - you're the agent of political correctness. You are an agent of emotion and feelings. To you, I wish you the Liberals and an Orwellian existence. May every situation you find yourself in, be sunshine, rainbows and butterflies. The death of free speech is you. Challenging common thought is was makes forums entertaining. But adding a view when you risk smashing your head against group-think is tiring. So perhaps I'll add something here or there, but honestly have better ways to spend my time. Edited by billert, Feb 15 2014, 08:21 AM.
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| Shane | Feb 15 2014, 09:13 AM Post #36 |
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We have advanced a little from the Stone Age |
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Feb 15 2014, 10:04 AM Post #37 |
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Feb 15 2014, 10:45 AM Post #39 |
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Historically women were kept out of battle and hunting to protect them. Because they produced the children. Women tend to value life more than men. They give birth and have maternal instincts over males which makes them more sensitive over life and death. Hence why it would be harder for a women to take a life. Part of the evolution of humans which separates men and women. That separation mind you is closing and we are evolving as a humans. Maybe one day we will all be cross gendered
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